HATRED, aka Awor Surkrarz Simulator 2015

[made]

I'm shocked that nobody has pointed out the most offensive thing in this game: The player character's horrible long greasy hair.

I don't know about you sick fucks but I refuse to play a game which encourages that kind of filth. Just looking at the video makes me want to take a shower and get a haircut.

I concur. Game needs barber DLC ASAP. If I were to go on a killing spree, I'd make sure to look as sharp as possible.

 

[Perkel]

Damn i wish someone would do JA3 with that engine. Destructible buildings, z levels and everything...


Still looks fun actually. Gunplay that is

 

[Starwars]

The engine looks good, the destructability is really nice.

But it looks repetitive as fuck, the executions are gonna get old really fast (within the span of that video in fact) and the main character is boring.

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

Won't somebody please think of the children!

It's pretty funny to look at longer gameplay, and then realize that people that sit and jerk off to Mortal Kombat X gore and GTA rampages are outraged about this game. Such hypocrites.

The targets seem to fall fast and there's lots of cool environmental damage, but the PC seems to be a bullet sponge . Such a disappointment .

 

[Somberlain]

I'm shocked that nobody has pointed out the most offensive thing in this game: The player character's horrible long greasy hair.

I don't know about you sick fucks but I refuse to play a game which encourages that kind of filth. Just looking at the video makes me want to take a shower and get a haircut.

I concur. Game needs barber DLC ASAP. If I were to go on a killing spree, I'd make sure to look as sharp as possible.

What he needs is sunglasses for the authentic look.

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

I'm shocked that nobody has pointed out the most offensive thing in this game: The player character's horrible long greasy hair.

Lack of washing is probably a sign of terminal depression.

 

[JarlFrank]

I'm shocked that nobody has pointed out the most offensive thing in this game: The player character's horrible long greasy hair.

I don't know about you sick fucks but I refuse to play a game which encourages that kind of filth. Just looking at the video makes me want to take a shower and get a haircut.

I concur. Game needs barber DLC ASAP. If I were to go on a killing spree, I'd make sure to look as sharp as possible.

Awor Szurkrarz now wishes you were a character in that game so he can kill you. Both of you.

 

[lemon-lime]

I compare what I see in those videos with classic isometric shooters that I've played 20 years ago (namely Bullfrog's Syndicate and Origin's Crusader: No Remorse) and put some of Skyrim's killcam into the mix: I don't see anything extraordinary there. Sure, Hatred's gameplay is for modern consoletards (a is Skyrim), and mentioned classics have a more masterracist touch in its gameplay. In fact gameplay looks very boring.

Somewhat relevant story: Back in the day, the Gamestar editors really got their panties in a twist about AvP2. They complained that you basically had to kill innocent civilians by biting of the scientists' heads to regenerate health, when playing as the Alien, the fricking ALIEN. They were really butthurt. So much they refused to give a score in their review.
I was butthurt, too: It was the last time I bought a copy of the printed Gamestar magazine.

 

[AN4RCHID]

The devs aren't pandering to consoletards:

But yeah it's nothing revolutionary. Nor is it trying to be.

 

[Tehdagah]

Won't somebody please think of the children!

It's pretty funny to look at longer gameplay, and then realize that people that sit and jerk off to Mortal Kombat X gore and GTA rampages are outraged about this game. Such hypocrites.

The targets seem to fall fast and there's lots of cool environmental damage, but the PC seems to be a bullet sponge . Such a disappointment .

He's playing on Easy.

 

[Alfons]

Engine is great, monochrome is shit, executions are shit, looks repetitive as hell.

Maybe later you get some interesting weapons, but this looks fucking mediocre.

 

[Gerrard]

I'm sorta butthurt that this is on Steam, not because I care much in general about the game itself, but because the flip-flop over removing it means Steam caved to the retards who were screaming that them not selling it was 'censorship'.

The idea that a store has the duty to sell every indie game or be guilty of censorship is pure SJW faggotry, and Valve gave in to it.

If it weren't for that, I wouldn't be really butthurt, since even if it's the shitty game I suspect it will be (heavily influenced by Postal, which was a shit game once you get past the edgy teen appeal), it's not like Steam isn't already full of garbage. I stand by my earlier post in this thread though.


Well according to the list, Huniepop and Sakura Spirit are banned too, and as they're sold on Steam I assume they don't even have porn in them. Even vaguely suggestive shitty animu is enough to warrant a ban.

If said store already sells every imaginable piece of shit under the sun then yeah, it's nothing but censorship.

 

[Infinitron]

I'm shocked that nobody has pointed out the most offensive thing in this game: The player character's horrible long greasy hair.

I don't know about you sick fucks but I refuse to play a game which encourages that kind of filth. Just looking at the video makes me want to take a shower and get a haircut.

I'm seeing potential for an American Psycho-style deranged yuppie mod here.

 

[AN4RCHID]

First official review is out - from Destructoid

Do you hate it?

When Hatred debuted, I pretty much kept quiet. No one can really win in that situation, when the explosion of opposing viewpoints was at its loudest. I decided to wait until the finished product was out and play it for myself, to see if the controversy had merit.

As it turns out, I'm actually baffled how Hatred earned one of the only few Adults Only ratings in ESRB history. It's basically an updated Postal, but with less potential to somehow become iconic down the line and get its own Uwe Boll film.
Remember Postal? That game from 1997 that everyone tried to get banned?

We went through this rigmarole already, and that battle isn't worth fighting. Hatred isn't all that special as a statement or a twin-stick shooter.

Hatred (PC)
Developer: Destructive Creations
Publisher: Destructive Creations
Released: June 1, 2015
MSRP: $19.99

To be clear, I don't have an inherent problem with Hatred. We've seen far, far worse in terms of the video game medium -- in this very generation with Grand Theft Auto V's playable in-game torture scene. Or even Ninja Gaiden III's new "cutting" system, where enemies scream in agony as they're sliced into multiple pieces of flesh. The obvious difference here is that a lot of the targets in Hatred are civilians, which put people on edge. But really, plenty of mainstream action titles have more nuanced takes, killing servicemen and women, officers of the law, and yes, plenty of civilians.

Where Hatred partly fails is that it doesn't really make any meaningful statements in regards to its violence. That that it needs to, mind, it kind of just "is." The main character (who is not named) hates the world, so he's going to take down as many people as he can before he dies. That's basically it. He starts in his neighborhood, then branches out across the surrounding area, using various forms of transportation to do it. I suspect there are going to be thinkpieces spouting up across the 'net after release, but don't expect anything as interesting as the ones that were spurred by Hotline Miami playthroughs -- another ultraviolent romp.

All the while, he's ranting pseudo-philosophical nonsense. The developers have noted that he isn't trying to quote or channel anyone in particular, and boy can you tell when he says repeats tired phrases like "dust to dust" and "the death is waiting." Half the time you can't even hear what he's saying over the sound of gunfire and explosions. Nothing about the presentation is memorable outside of the distinct visual style.



As a shooter, Hatred is fairly impressive (outside of the sparing terrible vehicular controls). Destructive Creations clearly has a knack for the genre, which makes the fact that it decided to create this lifeless world more disappointing. Shooting feels responsive, and the control scheme is easy to pick up and play, especially on a controller. I don't like that there isn't a toggle option for sprinting (you have to hold it down, which hurts your thumb after a while), but aiming, including the precision-aim system that provides an imaginary laser sight while holding the trigger, is spot-on.

Visually, Hatred is somewhere in-between unique and messy. The grey sheen generally looks great, but it does get old after a few levels. Plus, you'll want to jack up the gamma considerably, as the playable character tends to get lost in the fray. Individual objects are all rendered with care though, and the destruction system allows you to do things like craft new exits by blowing through walls. There isn't a whole lot to do in those worlds though.

It's level-based, and most missions boil down to "kill [x] number of civilians, then kill [x] number of police, then escape." There's a few unique levels like a sewer chase with the SWAT team or a linear stage taking place on a moving train, but most of them follow this same principle. The train scenario in particular presents some interesting possibilities, in that random civilians on-board are armed. It's often hard to pick them out of a crowd, and if a gun drops, they'll run to pick it up. That mission only lasts a few minutes though, then it's onto the next generic hub. Seriously, that's about all the game has to offer.

I also encountered a few bugs while playing, including disappearing bodies, wonky physics that caused some deaths, and a few fatal game crashes. Several levels were also mislabeled in the level select screen and sometimes, mission objectives wouldn't calculate correctly. The crashes in particular really hindered my playthrough, as they were all at the very end of a level, which forced me to replay them from the start. If it weren't for these issues, it would be a decent twin-stick shooter. Developer tools are evidently going to happen which may allow more interesting levels, but haven't been provided at launch. If you're curious, here's a full video rundown of the options menu.

There's nothing really special about Hatred. It's a twin-stick shooter. It has guns in it. It has objectives. Most of the time those objectives involve acting like a menace to society or blowing stuff up. It doesn't have anything new to bring to the table, or anything interesting to say about the genre. You can go back to yelling at it now if you want.

THE VERDICT
5.5

 

[LundB]

If said store already sells every imaginable piece of shit under the sun then yeah, it's nothing but censorship.

No it isn't.

One thing I did find hilarious though was babies crying 'censorship' and 'omg this is illegal steam must sell every game that exists or breach EU law abloobloobloo' over Steam pulling it from greenlight. These are the same people who (correctly) laughed at the SJW retard who whined that some company withdrew sponsorship from him over his SJW views were 'censoring' him. Not actively giving money to people is not censorship ffs manboons.

They aren't suppressing anything, just electing not to actively push it. A store owner has no obligation to sell anything, they owe indie devs nothing, to not do so is not censorship. Arguing otherwise is pure sjw idiocy.

TL;DR: Saying a store owner who is doing nothing to suppress a game other than not selling it themselves is censoring the game is like saying I'm oppressing homosexuals by choosing not to fuck dudes and have gay sex parties in my house.

 

[KK1001]

Seems like a lot of wasted potential.

If you're going for the whole shock value, why not go the whole fucking nine yards?

If I were to design this game, it'd have multiple scenarios that are based somewhat on real-life terror events. Your character wouldn't be a bullet sponge, but you'd have the ability to customize your setup with a given amount of cash. You'd spend that cash on particular guns, body armor, bombs, booby traps, and you would, depending on the mission, have time to set them up ahead of time.

You'd have "survival" missions where the goal is to kill as many people as possible before being gunned down by the cops, and "objective missions," where you're trying to carry out some sort of deadly nuclear/biological/huge-fucking-bomb attack on something.

For maximum edge, there'd be a movie theater level, a marathon level, an island level, a high school, a subway, a French market, and so on.

Devs are pussies.

 

[GrainWetski]

Arguing otherwise is pure sjw idiocy.

So that's why SJWs pushed for this to not be on Steam. They're trying the good old reverse psychology.

 

[Dexter]

Playing on Hard: http://www.gamespot.com/videos/hatred-gamespot-plays/2300-6425016/

lol @ Lundb whining that people were complaining about SJWs complaining about the game and throwing a shitfit getting it off Steam in the first place.

 

[Metro]

The 'need to execute to heal' mechanic is forced edginess. Otherwise the game looks fine.

 

[Eyestabber]

- Destructible environments
- No self regenerating health bar
- Devs giving the middle finger to consoletards using a gamepad to play a shooter (really? A gamepad on a fucking shooter? On a PC? fucking moron...)
- Funny one-liners
- Ammo is NOT infinite
- Looks like you can steal most vehicles

The game looks decent enough, and is worth a playtrough. Trashing the Hatred for "technical reasons" is simply a cowardly way to cave into pressure. Game might not be a masterpiece, sure, but we've all played worse. And it clearly DOES bring enough cool stuff to the table to warrant a playtrough.

Anyone claiming "oh, I didn't bother with Hatred because it's a bad game. No, no no, I'm all for controversy, imma bad boy. I only skipped this game cuz reasons" is a fucking liar. You caved into SJW pressure, just admit it, ye pansy.

Side note: dude on the video is pretty fucking bad. And possibly retarded.

 

[LundB]

Arguing otherwise is pure sjw idiocy.

So that's why SJWs pushed for this to not be on Steam. They're trying the good old reverse psychology.

SJW mentality transcends sides. The people whining to get it taken down were faggots, but so were those crying about 'censorship' on Valve's part. It is a mistake to assume all morons with an SJW mindset are on the same side.

There's a reason edgelords like Rex become SJWs and some SJWs become edgelords, the absurd thought processes are already there.

Edit: If this were a game about say, the struggles of being a tranny or some shit, and you had people posting dumb shit about it being illegal under EU law for Steam not to sell it (which people were saying about this game), you'd laugh at them, and rightly so. If you can't see the sjwishness of the idea that not selling something in your store is the same as censoring it and oppressing the poor artists who make it, you should probably register on tumblr.

 

[Dexter]

Arguing otherwise is pure sjw idiocy.

So that's why SJWs pushed for this to not be on Steam. They're trying the good old reverse psychology.

SJW mentality transcends sides. The people whining to get it taken down were faggots, but so were those crying about 'censorship' on Valve's part. It is a mistake to assume all morons with an SJW mindset are on the same side.

There's a reason edgelords like Rex become SJWs and some SJWs become edgelords, the absurd thought processes are already there.

https://www.aclu.org/what-censorship?redirect=free-speech/what-censorship

Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive," happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups. Censorship by the government is unconstitutional.

In contrast, when private individuals or groups organize boycotts against stores that sell magazines of which they disapprove, their actions are protected by the First Amendment, although they can become dangerous in the extreme. Private pressure groups, not the government, promulgated and enforced the infamous Hollywood blacklists during the McCarthy period. But these private censorship campaigns are best countered by groups and individuals speaking out and organizing in defense of the threatened expression.

http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/17/a...er-expression-in-apps-and-games-as-dangerous/ http://ncac.org/

Steam has a similar level of control over the PC gaming market. While Windows is an open network that enables anyone to install any program they want, whether Steam sells it or not, Valve owns a financially significant market share of all PC game sales. When Valve banned Hatred, it was telling other developers that they would have a much more difficult time earning money from this type of expression.

This could potentially have a chilling effect on game creators.

“And while companies could possibly get support for suppressing something extremely violent [like Hatred], the same logic would allow them to suppress anything politically controversial as well, which is what Apple is doing,” said Mintcheva. “The danger is that, as we avoid becoming puppets of government, we become puppets of a handful of big corporations.”

Of course, gamers and developers have already accepted a certain level of censorship. Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, and Valve all don’t permit pornographic “adult only” games on their platforms. And because of that, almost no developers actually make that type of content.

But now the same thing could potentially happen to other types of games. So, what can people do about it? Well, the NCAC has some ideas.

“As the only thing corporations care about is profit, and to make a profit they need customers, it makes sense for their customers to insist on being treated as people who can make their own decisions and also make decisions for their children,” said Mintcheva. “Rather than being told what is good for them by a corporate entity.”

This seemed to work with Valve and Hatred. Steam reinstated the violent game after game players and developers engaged in a vocal debate about whether it was Valve’s place to make such a call.

 

[Chamezero]

I love how the retards that started the moral panic now complain that the game isn't as bad and feel cheated. Hello? This game is a short simple twin-stick shooter with an edgy aesthetic and good graphics and the devs never pretended that it was something different, you were the ones that went full retard and thought that this was going to be Anders Breivik's Kindergarten Rampage for Playstation 666 only because the devs liked a facebook page and called you fruitcakes.

Good job, Alien Shooter devs must be jealous. Waiting for the dev tools so I can make a children and pregnant women mod.

 

[Metro]

Marketing 101.

 

[Eyestabber]

Fun fact: Gamespot guys were a lot more willing to shoot innocent people than the other 2 random youtubber. Also more willing to joke about it.