Gondolin
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Fighting wave after wave of boring enemies in a game where ammo isn't even an issue gets old really fast. Like 15 years ago fast.
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Game News Harebrained Schemes is hiring writers - new Shadowrun Returns expansion on the way?
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Wizfall
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I was a backer of SR and enjoyed the OC a lot.
It was linear but very pleasant and it nicely fed my craving of a shadowrun game.
It was a great achievement to make what they have done in a so limited timeframe.
Unfortunately the nature of the editor/character system/campain is way too simple to be enjoyable for very long, especially after the discovery effect gone.
It suited perfectly the OC but at the end i was tired by it and did not even play dragonfall.
It was linear but very pleasant and it nicely fed my craving of a shadowrun game.
It was a great achievement to make what they have done in a so limited timeframe.
Unfortunately the nature of the editor/character system/campain is way too simple to be enjoyable for very long, especially after the discovery effect gone.
It suited perfectly the OC but at the end i was tired by it and did not even play dragonfall.
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I strongly recommend to play Dragonfall.
I unashamedly put SRR: Dragonfall in my top 3 RPGs for the last 10 years, easy. The story and characters were pretty great. The character system could have been a little deeper, but it was leaps and bounds ahead of any new properties I've played in a long time. They fucking nailed the Shadowrun universe, to a "T". I find it hard to quibble with any of it. I even liked the graphics, insofar as I only minimally care about that shit anyways.
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The graphics were fucking gorgeous. Not PoE level, but still...
They were okay looking. Quite obviously designed with a tablet's limitations in mind, but I don't care about that.
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Exactly what are "tablet's limitations" when it comes to 2D graphics?
They were okay looking. Quite obviously designed with a tablet's limitations in mind, but I don't care about that.
Exactly what are "tablet's limitations" when it comes to 2D graphics?
They were okay looking. Quite obviously designed with a tablet's limitations in mind, but I don't care about that.
Why are you qualifying it with "2D graphics"?
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Because we're talking about a 2D game. That should be obvious really, I'm not sure why you're asking. The limitations when it comes to 3D are obvious, nothing to discuss there..Exactly what are "tablet's limitations" when it comes to 2D graphics?
They were okay looking. Quite obviously designed with a tablet's limitations in mind, but I don't care about that.
Why are you qualifying it with "2D graphics"?
Because we're talking about a 2D game. That should be obvious really, I'm not sure why you're asking. The limitations when it comes to 3D are obvious, nothing to discuss there..Exactly what are "tablet's limitations" when it comes to 2D graphics?
They were okay looking. Quite obviously designed with a tablet's limitations in mind, but I don't care about that.
Why are you qualifying it with "2D graphics"?
You're including your answer into the premise of your question. One of the limitations of a tablet is that it cannot do 3D graphics very well (if at all). For all we know, the game was 2D precisely because it was made for a tablet. Which would be (one of) the graphical limitations I was referring to.
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Excidium
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Yeah, at this point I only care to pay for a new SRR campaign if they revamp the entire system
Septaryeth
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I enjoyed Dragonfall but I honestly doubt how are they going to top themselves beyond that.
The story content is a whole lot better, with some new designs for combat, but all the other problems in the OC are still there.
I wouldn't mind a surprise, but I'm not getting my hope up either.
The story content is a whole lot better, with some new designs for combat, but all the other problems in the OC are still there.
I wouldn't mind a surprise, but I'm not getting my hope up either.
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Yeah, game had atmosphere in spades but not much else. Yet another KS game with so much unrealized potential it makes yr heart hurt.
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Crooked Bee What was "outright boring" about Dragonfall?
Will be a day one purchase for me.
So sad to see Codexers defending a piss easy tablet game with terrible BioWarian characters, no freedom, no exploration, a combat system that even Avadon puts to shame, a terribly boring and generic ambiant soundtrack from washed out has beens. The descriptions are the absolute single good thing about it.
This is everything that the decline represents, and people who claim to only like hard core DOS RPGs from the 80s and early 90s are embracing it with open arms. I've seldom seen anything as pathetic.
This is everything that the decline represents, and people who claim to only like hard core DOS RPGs from the 80s and early 90s are embracing it with open arms. I've seldom seen anything as pathetic.
Excidium
P. banal
Check our MMX review then
Exploration, level design, companions, itemization, off the top of my head. The writing was serviceable but very bland, too; I just clicked through it most of the time.
It's hard to say what wasn't boring or simply mediocre about the game, actually. The setting maybe, though I didn't feel like the game got close to realizing the setting's potential either. Atmosphere was good, though.
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And then I remember that I'm talking to a girl whose idea of excitement is 80s dungeon crawlers.
As for why I can never agree with that, I have one word for you: CYBERZOMBIE.
Cyberzombie? I don't even know/recall what you're talking about, and I did play both OC and Dragonfall. 
Also, I enjoy basically all kinds of RPGs, as long as the game has at least some good or unorthodox design. Shadowrun Returns is just a "safe" effort all around; it does some things competently, but there isn't a single element that could be called outstanding or just very good.
Also, I enjoy basically all kinds of RPGs, as long as the game has at least some good or unorthodox design. Shadowrun Returns is just a "safe" effort all around; it does some things competently, but there isn't a single element that could be called outstanding or just very good.
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Cyberzombie? I don't even know/recall what you're talking about, and I did play both OC and Dragonfall.
The AG Chemie Europa mission. Big cybernetic troll you get to control like a rigger's drone, with an axe and a minigun? You get to use to him tear through a whole platoon of Knight Errants? I hope you didn't skip it!
And that's just one example. Dragonfall's missions each had a unique "hook" that broke the tedium. The Aztechnology mission with its non-combat possibilities, the bait-and-switch with the captured psychotic Dwarf shadowrunner, etc. I found them consistently engaging.
They just...were not boring.
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