Incline Gothic turns 15 years

[Multidirectional]

Sound bit salty mate. Been a while since your last upgrade eh? Keep saving those pennies.

Nothing about your "tweaks" is helpful in any way, it's just noob level shit for people who have no idea what GPU control panel options do. By the way "Adaptive" V Sync is dogshit. You either use real V Sync to get rid of screen tearing completely (which Adaptive doesn't do) or not use it at all if you happen to be a lucky person who isn't bothered by it. Any "performance impact" caused by V Sync is caused by lack of triple buffering, something you can add via third party measures if game is lacking it (control panel TB is OpenGL only). The way you notice lack of triple buffering is when your FPS drops to half the refresh rate whenever it cannot be kept at refresh rate level.

But thanks for trying to help.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Calm down, Skyway.

 

[Abu Antar]

Screw the focus stones. What an annoying fetch quest. The quest where you have to find cheese, grapes and whatever else I can't rmember right now was also annoying. I cleansed the troll valley. It feels like there are many unfinished places here. Also found a bandit camp, but it didn't seem to have any connection to any quest. And last, I found a chest that was unreachable. There was a pillar next to it, but pushing it, made it fall the wrong way, lol. Still, having tons of fun. I'm remembering more about the game as I play.

 

[Metro]

The grapes, cheese, etc. quest is entirely optional.

 

[T. Reich]

Lol, the "bring me tons of food for AWESUM WEAPON" quest from that new camp mine is such a noob bait.
Considering the result of completing this quest, you should've realised that it's the game's way of telling you something...

 

[Multidirectional]

I didn't even bother with the quest on my first run, guy was obviously full of shit from the get go. Focus stones quest wasn't a big deal except for the helper NPCs. Whenever I was supposed to lead NPCs somewhere in that game their pathfinding would drive me nuts. They kept disappearing on me.

 

[Abu Antar]

I know the end result of the quest, because I've played Gothic before, but I need to clean up my journal.

 

[Multidirectional]

So, continuing to derp around in Gothic II. Have 27 quests open with no idea how to solve any of them yet. Well.. i guess I have an idea how to solve "deliver wolf skins". Just need a better weapon, got 20 STR for it but only 14 gold.. Farthest I got from Korinis so far is Akil's farm. Feels good people.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

So, continuing to derp around in Gothic II. Have 27 quests open with no idea how to solve any of them yet. Well.. i guess I have an idea how to solve "deliver wolf skins". Just need a better weapon, got 20 STR for it but only 14 gold.. Farthest I got from Korinis so far is Akil's farm. Feels good people.

Spoiler

Well, there's a wolf's tooth if you can find the right dude to escort you to it.

 

[Murk]

Did you not get the wolf knife from cavalorn?

Spoiler

there's also a milita short sword and some potions on a cliff looking directly at the northern entrance to Khorinis (the one near the market), you can get to it by hugging the cliff after you go up the stairs to akil's farm

 

[Multidirectional]

Of course I got the knife from Cavalorn. Am I supposed to be a death machine with it? Cause I kind of am, machine of my own death. It's range sucks completely. Can only kill tutorial wolfs and goblins with it. I lack one damn wolf skin for quest. Cannot find another Young Wolf.

It's fine, I enjoy being lost in beginning of first playthrough of PB game. Experience to be savored. I'm sure I'll start killing things more confidently soon enough.

Goddamn I still can't get over how beautiful this game is without any texture mods.

Spoiler

 

[Danikas]

Of course I got the knife from Cavalorn. Am I supposed to be a death machine with it? Cause I kind of am, machine of my own death. It's range sucks completely. Can only kill tutorial wolfs and goblins with it. I lack one damn wolf skin for quest. Cannot find another Young Wolf.

It's fine, I enjoy being lost in beginning of first playthrough of PB game. Experience to be savored. I'm sure I'll start killing things more confidently soon enough.

Goddamn I still can't get over how beautiful this game is without any texture mods.

Spoiler

You can go on a hunt with Bartok he spends his days drinking beer on main square in Khorinis. Pay him 50 sheckels and he will help you. Also if weapon has less damage but more reach I prefer it, thats why rusty sword (75 length) is better than wolf knife (35 length).

 

[Murk]

I prefer the thorn mace early tbh for the range.

re: Bartok hunt -- save before you actually talk to him to start the quest because... well, just do it.

 

[Multidirectional]

You can go on a hunt with Bartok he spends his days drinking beer on main square in Khorinis. Pay him 50 sheckels and he will help you. Also if weapon has less damage but more reach I prefer it, thats why rusty sword (75 length) is better than wolf knife (35 length).

Yeah I've got that guy flagged already, was gonna pay him soon and see what I can get out of it.

Did more experimenting with view distance. Kept in game distance at 100% but increased multiplier in SystemPack.ini tenfold. Result is curious, I get around same drops as with in game distance is close to maxed. Except it looks much better.

Spoiler

Just look at that gorgeus view. Think I'll keep it like this unless I run into some serious drops later. So far this place in harbor has been the biggest framerate hit.

 

[Abu Antar]

Had some fun adventuring. Did the Chromanin quest. Got 5th circle spells. Killed lots of people, orcs and a troll. Man, it took me ages to kill it. I thought fire would be effective, but no, melee worked best. I got in a fight with 7 razors. Probably one of the most infuriating fights so far. Not really challenging but the annoyance factor was through the roof. All in all, good progress was made. I think I'm 3/4 done.

 

[Multidirectional]

So upon further inspection it does seem like DEX might be more useful then STR in Gothic II. I mean there are DEX based weapons with pretty high base dmg and it obviously also allows you to shoot things with bow better. Now, I've only spent 10 LPs on STR so far. Tell me I didn't fuck up here and you can actually raise both STR and DEX just like in G1. Should I just focus on DEX from now on?

 

[Danikas]

So upon further inspection it does seem like DEX might be more useful then STR in Gothic II. I mean there are DEX based weapons with pretty high base dmg and it obviously also allows you to shoot things with bow better. Now, I've only spent 10 LPs on STR so far. Tell me I didn't fuck up here and you can actually raise both STR and DEX just like in G1. Should I just focus on DEX from now on?

Dex based mage is the most op build in the game.

 

[Multidirectional]

That's cool but I don't care for being a mage. I just want to know if I should switch to DEX to use both bows and swords.

 

[Sigourn]

Multidirectional I'm patiently awaiting for the day you discover a way to squeeze mad performance from this game, I really am.

 

[Multidirectional]

Multidirectional I'm patiently awaiting for the day you discover a way to squeeze mad performance from this game, I really am.

Keep waiting, I'll keep playing. Performance might still be shit but I did end up getting mad view distance at around same FPS as before, as per one of my posts yesterday. It looks absolutely gorgeus now. And I am used to framedrops enough by now not to care about it. As long as it doesn't start dropping below 30 later.. Of course if it ran as well as G1 it would be fucking heaven, but I'll take what I can get. Not like there are many choices of games like this.

Seeing how enabling mad amount of AA in Nvidia Inspector (2x2 SSAA +4xMSAA+ Transparency Supersampling) has zero impact on framerate and distance setting is the only thing that does anything I think it is safe to assume this is some sort of CPU utilisation problem.

 

[Murk]

Dex is good early on, but STR swords will eventually overpower DEX swords in damage and in how the game's mechanics for melee damage work (though once you get a certain quest related weapon things neutralize a lot there).

Think of it this way, melee works by doing weapon damage + STR as based on your skill in the weapon. If you go dex, you can use the strong and easy to use dex weapons but you won't have much STR to add to it for tons of damage.

Having said that, an archer (full dex build) is the easiest way to play the game and you can still fall back on the mastersword/betty/etc. for a melee alternative.

As an aside, there are only 4-5 'dex' swords.

Below are hints where to find two of them early on, though you won't have the stats to use them probably. Only read if you want the spoiler.

Spoiler

The 'rapier' which is actually a saber can be found behind the two trolls near the hunter (Grim I think is his name) by Onar's farm. If you walk past Pepe the shepherd and go down the hill you'll see his camp (it's near the narrow climb up to the bandit fort). You can just run past the trolls and pick up the weapon. It requires 50 dex to use and offers 100 atk and like 8% 1handed skill boost.

The mastersword is even easier to find early on but it's for sale -- the NPC Martin has it, he is by the boxes on the docks in harbor town, near all the paladins. When you talk to him he offers it to you for a ton of gold. You can get one for free much later though.

One thing I'll warn you about, Multidirectional, is that when you check the inventory of an NPC they will then be able to equip their own inventory. So if you find a very good weapon a shop is selling, then come back and it's gone, it's because he equipped it and won't sell it anymore. You can bypass this by activating marvin mode, taking control of the NPC, and unequipping the weapon, then switching back to nameless hero. Or you can sell him an even stronger weapon that he can equip so he'll default to that.

 

[Sjukob]

Dexterity boosts damage for ranged weapons even for crossbows despite them requiring strength to be used. Dexterity does not increase damage of melee weapons, only strength does that. So eventually you will find that your melee is pretty meh and you rather prefer to go full ranged mode, I personally recommend dumping LPs into main stat as much as possible and focusing on one thing for the first playthrough.

 

[T. Reich]

Actually, I wouldn't really recommend going full derp into one stat+weapon at exclusion of everything else. While it's viable, it's rather tactically limiting, and the SP costs of doing that become quite exorbitant later on.

What definitely works is focusing on one stat and corresponding weapon proficiency (or magic), and getting it to "natural" 90+ (and "natural" 60+ for that combat skill), and then going for 60-ish "natural" of secondary stat (and 30-40 of "natural" secondary skill).

For example, you can go str-focused + dex-secondary, and pump Str to 94 (before using stat boosters), dex to 60-ish, 1h or 2h (your preference) to 50-60, and xbows to 30-40. This (after using all the stat boosters in the game, alchemy being mandatory btw) will let you equip any melee weapon in the game and basically kill even the strongest enemies in the game with 3-4 melee hits max (that's with chance of not doing max dmg per hit factored in). Meanwhile, you'll be also able to use any crossbow in the game, and have a decent damage boost for it, too, allowing you to pick off weaker enemies at a distance before engaging the stronger ones in melee. And you can still use magic in form of scrolls, you just can't spam it like mages.

This strat works for all stat+skill combos in the game: DEX+str (BOW+1hdex), MAG+str/dex (SPELLS+fallback weapons), DEX+mag (BOW+limited support spells for arrow-immune enemies).

P.S.: Learning all stat-boosting skills in the game is mandatory for not being raped in endgame. That means that you'll have to learn all 3 stages of tablet reading and one(!) alchemy recipe for the stat-boosting potion for your main stat. Those are only required from chapter 4 onwards usually, so no real point in learning them early.

 

[Junmarko]

You can go on a hunt with Bartok he spends his days drinking beer on main square in Khorinis. Pay him 50 sheckels and he will help you. Also if weapon has less damage but more reach I prefer it, thats why rusty sword (75 length) is better than wolf knife (35 length).

Yeah I've got that guy flagged already, was gonna pay him soon and see what I can get out of it.

Did more experimenting with view distance. Kept in game distance at 100% but increased multiplier in SystemPack.ini tenfold. Result is curious, I get around same drops as with in game distance is close to maxed. Except it looks much better.

Spoiler

Just look at that gorgeus view. Think I'll keep it like this unless I run into some serious drops later. So far this place in harbor has been the biggest framerate hit.

Take your laptop, prepare a funeral for it - go buy a PC.

 

[Danikas]

You can go on a hunt with Bartok he spends his days drinking beer on main square in Khorinis. Pay him 50 sheckels and he will help you. Also if weapon has less damage but more reach I prefer it, thats why rusty sword (75 length) is better than wolf knife (35 length).

Yeah I've got that guy flagged already, was gonna pay him soon and see what I can get out of it.

Did more experimenting with view distance. Kept in game distance at 100% but increased multiplier in SystemPack.ini tenfold. Result is curious, I get around same drops as with in game distance is close to maxed. Except it looks much better.

Spoiler

Just look at that gorgeus view. Think I'll keep it like this unless I run into some serious drops later. So far this place in harbor has been the biggest framerate hit.

Take your laptop, prepare a funeral for it - go buy a PC.

Nope man I got new PC with Gtx 1060 and I5-7700k and still get shitty fps.