Game News GOG Winter Sale: Herve gives Bethesda one last middle finger, gives out Fallout Trilogy for free

[Servo]

Wait, doesn't that make me kinda smart if I never read that other article :p

 

[DragoFireheart]

You really don't know the horror that is fallout 3.
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...play-a-shitty-game-fallout-3-completed.34530/

Fair warning: Reading it might cause you to lose some part of your sanity. Not much as playing though.

Ugh...

The painful memories.

 

[Servo]

I think the game would have been better if daddy was a lion named Aslan.

 

[Xor]

But seriously, Fallout 3 was objectively fucking terrible compared to Fallout 1 and 2. There is no weaseling around that fact. It might be a decent hiking simulator (I wouldn't know) but as a Fallout sequel it is the second worst game in the franchise, and it only escapes being the worst because FOBOS exists.

 

[Bilgefar]

4. Intelligent, hairy deathclaws. Would't have minded the hairy (are they even the same animal?) but them being intelligent is highly canon-breaking.

Deathclaws were initially hairy in FO1. They removed the hair when it didn't render properly, so having them be hairy in FOT is a nod to the original design. Intelligent deathclaws were introduced in FO2, so even if you consider it canon-breaking I don't see how it can be an issue with FOT, since it's not the one that brought that to the series.

GOG Fallout versions are the shitty euro versions iirc. Remember to patch the kids in.

Only Fallout 1 is the euro version. Fallout 2 is glorious kwan version.

 

[Servo]

See it's funny because smarter people than you made that exact metaphor.

Whoops, missed that joke. Good clip though

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

4. Intelligent, hairy deathclaws. Would't have minded the hairy (are they even the same animal?) but them being intelligent is highly canon-breaking.

Deathclaws were initially hairy in FO1. They removed the hair when it didn't render properly, so having them be hairy in FOT is a nod to the original design. Intelligent deathclaws were introduced in FO2, so even if you consider it canon-breaking I don't see how it can be an issue with FOT, since it's not the one that brought that to the series.

GOG Fallout versions are the shitty euro versions iirc. Remember to patch the kids in.

Only Fallout 1 is the euro version. Fallout 2 is glorious kwan version.

Yeah the hair ins't really a problem. Also kinda hard to mark deathclaws' team on multi otherwise. Also 'claws are pretty cool on multiplayer, they can even thrown grenades and a perk gives them poisoned claws. I remember they were fast runners, so awesome for Capture The Flag maps in FOT. Properly built claws and dogs were the horror in FOT, especially CTB playing. Thrown grenade, then rush to make mincemeat of enemy for maximum effect, heh, those were the times.

I think Deathclaws in FOT are kinda nerfed, through. Original Gangsta Deathclaws are pratically bullet-proof, and require a ungodly ammount of ordinance to take down, or a flamer/laser, and they're way faster than humans (I think 12 AP or something). Deathclaws in FOT can be defeated by your AK-47-toting squads no problem, but then again my memory of FOT is kinda clouded.

FO2 introduced intelligent deathclaws in a way that made sense: They were experiments by the Enclave, who without doubt used limited amounts of FEV to make them smarter. Most of them were actually sentient but dumb as bricks, kinda like Super Mutants in that aspect. They also got all killed by end-game except for Goris and Xarn.

The sentient and intelligent ones in FOT (40 years before Fallout 2, remember) appear from nowhere and vanish nowhere, making absolutely no sense.

 

[Irxy]

But seriously, Fallout 3 was objectively fucking terrible compared to Fallout 1 and 2. There is no weaseling around that fact. It might be a decent hiking simulator (I wouldn't know) but as a Fallout sequel it is the second worst game in the franchise, and it only escapes being the worst because FOBOS exists.

It wasn't a terrible game on its own but it was a terrible Fallout game, imho.

 

[Black]

It wasn't a terrible game on its own

It did nothing well and many things horribly, on top of that it has a lot of technical issues.
How is that not the definition of "terrible"?

 

[Mastermind]

It did nothing well

The exploration was top notch.

and many things horribly

The character interaction and story were horrible, but nobody plays Bethesda games for the characters anyway.

 

[Black]

Top notch exploration? Hardly, with rubble blocking ways, metro tunnels filled with cannon fodder and radiation walls.

nobody plays Bethesda games for the characters anyway.

I don't know why anyone plays them either!

 

[Irxy]

I don't know why anyone plays them either!

I don't know why people play ascii rogue crap, yet they are obviously popular and we even get regular codex news on some obscure crawlers which have even less to do with rpg than F3, so what?
We play it because there are no better games in the same niche - open world exploration and grinding with some cute post-apocalyptic scenery (well we have FNV now obviously, so it's safe to say F3 is inferior to it). The same reason we play Skyrim - yes, almost all of its systems are broken or clunky, but there is simply nothing else to provide similar experience and gameplay.

 

[Shannow]

I think Deathclaws in FOT are kinda nerfed, through. Original Gangsta Deathclaws are pratically bullet-proof, and require a ungodly ammount of ordinance to take down, or a flamer/laser, and they're way faster than humans (I think 12 AP or something). Deathclaws in FOT can be defeated by your AK-47-toting squads no problem, but then again my memory of FOT is kinda clouded.

FOT did away with sensible stats and dmg values for weapons and introduced shitty loot "progression" instead. Which means that by the time you can start recruiting deathclaws your normal goons with weapons will be much deadlier. And the deathclaws as meleers simply can't stand up to the ordnance the enemies bring up against you. And they were also less tough than in FO1/2.
Overall a shittily balanced game but otherwise quite good. *shrug*

 

[Mastermind]

Top notch exploration? Hardly, with rubble blocking ways, metro tunnels filled with cannon fodder and radiation walls.

I am extremely butthurt by the presence of a handful of natural barriers. I should be able to walk through them like in real life.

 

[Commissar Draco]

It wasn't a terrible game on its own

It did nothing well and many things horribly, on top of that it has a lot of technical issues.
How is that not the definition of "terrible"?

Have you read Codex LP of F3? It is bad game with awful writing, moronic story and theme park enviroment; if you want to play sandbox hike simulator pick Morrowind, FNV or Skyrim instead.

Back to the topic; any mods for FOT? Played it only once year after release or so when there was hardly interntet in gloriosu Potatoland.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

It did nothing well

The exploration was top notch.

Top Notch exploration is Ultima 7

Not your shitty Bethtard Oblivion with guns.

 

[LundB]

I see a lot of posts edging dangerously near to Herve endorsement. You fucks seem to forget that Bethesda didn't do anything to Fallout that Herve hadn't already done:

Seriously, considering that Bethesda at least let the rather ok F:NV happen, while all Herve had coming down the pipeline was BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL 2, Bethesda is the definite lesser of two evils here. Still very much an evil though.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Comrade Yewriej has scored good point here

But Herve is evil of the past though and Bethpizda will rape the corpse of fallout in most un-tasteful way Forever.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

and we even get regular codex news on some obscure crawlers which have even less to do with rpg than F3, so what?

Oh wow, I see a last grasp attempt at the most dumbfuck statement of 2013

As for F3's exploration - exploration cannot be good when it's meaningless, which is exactly what it is in F3 (scaling, cannot die, dmg of weapons tied to skills, never in danger of running out of anything and other assorted moronic design decisions).

 

[Lady_Error]

Comrade Yewriej has scored good point here

But Herve is evil of the past though and Bethpizda will rape the corpse of fallout in most un-tasteful way Forever.

How do people even understand you if they do not know Russian?

 

[sea]

It seems that Bethesda has no working relationship with GOG whatsoever and that they aren't interested in forming one

Fuck those losers. Seriously, what gives? People love GOG and I highly doubt any Bethesda release of the old Fallout games would be comparable in terms of features, support or bonus items. Fallout games are still top sellers on GOG and GOG has way more reach than the... what, Bethesda Store or some shit?

Maybe Bethesda has a deal with Steam and wants it to be exclusive. Businessmen upset over lack of DRM, maybe.

Is there any other game developer more hated than Bethesda?

Developer? Definitely, people love Bethesda Game Studios. Publisher? Most people don't seem to give a shit about Bethesda Softworks itself. Generally speaking though, I have heard a lot of stories that suggest ZeniMax is a pretty standard triple-A publisher - that is, petty, exploitative, performs many legally questionable activities, etc.

Eidos Montreal deserves at least a little credit for DX:HR.

Th4if and Deus Ex are two different teams in the same studio.

I still can't believe how anyone at Interplay ever thought it was a good idea to go in business with a guy who looks like this. He looks like he could molest your children by enticing them with candy and shitty console RPG's.

It's not his fault, he's French. I think everyone over there looks that way.

 

[DragoFireheart]

"Merry Christmas mother fucks!"

 

[DragoFireheart]

Have you read Codex LP of F3? It is bad game with awful writing, moronic story and theme park enviroment; if you want to play sandbox hike simulator pick Morrowind, FNV or Far Cry 3 instead.

No seriously. Skyrim and Far Cry 3 play almost the same and Far Cry 3 is much more fun.

 

[Servo]

The same reason we play Skyrim - yes, almost all of its systems are broken or clunky, but there is simply nothing else to provide similar experience and gameplay.

You still playing Skyrim? The hell is wrong with you? Stop.

I read the F3 LP in its entirety. I had completely forgotten how awful that game really is without even comparing it to prior Fallouts.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

I am playing Skyrim...with the rape sex mods used by RK47 It is more fun than Fry Cry 3