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win95 version is a hack job. It doesn't have imuse, is missing some of the cutscenes (the mid-campaign ones) and has engine noise that can't be turned off and which obscures other critical warning sounds like missile locking etc. On top of that voice briefings are of lower quality than in the Collectors' version (probably to squeeze space for cdaudio tracks). It's unplayable basically.
 
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yellowcake said:
win95 version is a hack job. It doesn't have imuse, is missing some of the cutscenes (the mid-campaign ones) and has engine noise that can't be turned off and which obscures other critical warning sounds like missile locking etc. On top of that voice briefings are of lower quality than in the Collectors' version (probably to squeeze space for cdaudio tracks). It's unplayable basically.
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Are you sure? Because these are very serious problems. Especially the missing cutscenes.
 
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J_C said:
yellowcake said:
win95 version is a hack job. It doesn't have imuse, is missing some of the cutscenes (the mid-campaign ones) and has engine noise that can't be turned off and which obscures other critical warning sounds like missile locking etc. On top of that voice briefings are of lower quality than in the Collectors' version (probably to squeeze space for cdaudio tracks). It's unplayable basically.
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Are you sure? Because these are very serious problems. Especially the missing cutscenes.
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Am fairly sure about the cutscenes. I own a boxed copy and never went far with it because of it being an abomination and shameless money grab. Built an actual dos box and am still happily playing collectors' to this day.

edit: in-mission voice acting is of lower quality too AFAIR. And cutscenes have MIDI music recorded that is played on some shitty OPL3 instead of proper wavetable. I remember being appalled realizing all the hacking done to the game.
 
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The windows one is on a different engine as well, so a lot of things feel 'off' too. Projectiles speed, ship movement and hitboxes are all different.
 
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J_C said:
Are you sure? Because these are very serious problems. Especially the missing cutscenes.
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I can confirm everything yellowcake is saying. Win95 version definitely messes up many little things. I wouldn't say it's unplayable, but it's not worth sacrificing some things just for slightly better graphics and yaw.

About the cutscenes, among the missing ones are the ones you get in the older versions where after you select your loadout you see your ship launch.




 
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Regarding the Star Wars games, is my old hero Porkins in any of them?
Also for the games where you fly space ships, what it the recommended input device? Joystic, flight stick, or will a mouse do?
 
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back then, I played x-wing and tie fighter with a mouse... Not the optical one, the one with that ball bellow it. I was quite used to it and in fact I used the left hand because my computer table had no space on the right side.
 
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Also for the games where you fly space ships, what it the recommended input device? Joystic, flight stick, or will a mouse do?
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A joystick. Though a mouse can do just fine.

In fact the best player I've ever seen uses a mouse.
 
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Sceptic said:
yellowcake said:
win95 version is a hack job. It doesn't have imuse, is missing some of the cutscenes (the mid-campaign ones)
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Hah! So I wasn't wrong after all! Good to know I'm not senile yet.
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But main story cutscenes are present... you don't miss plot points. I didn't know about the capturing, rescuing, dying, launching, and landing scenes being cut, though they were just the same and repetitive everytime, though a butchered version is aways a butchered version.

One difference between the floopy x-wing version and it's CD versions (both dos and win), is that the original floopy disk had tarkin scenes voiced by peter cushing himself (pasted from the movies, of course), and the cd versions had his voice redubbed by Nick Jamison.
 
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octavius said:
Regarding the Star Wars games, is my old hero Porkins in any of them?
Also for the games where you fly space ships, what it the recommended input device? Joystic, flight stick, or will a mouse do?
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The Win95 version will refuse to start, if you don't have a Joystick connected.
But they are so bad that you should be thankful for that.
The Star Destroyers in that version don't even fire the lasers.
 
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Hopefully they will add the Collector's Edition later, as they have done for some other games.

In other news, I realised that while I played hours and hours of X-Wing, finishing all the missions—I even broke a joystick at some point!—I never finished TIE Fighter. Damn!
 
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There is one little thing that makes X-Wing 95 better then it's DOS older brother - an ability to set the throttle to current speed of your target.
 
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There is one little thing that makes X-Wing 95 better then it's DOS older brother - an ability to set the throttle to current speed of your target.
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Yeah, and there's also an option to lower the volume/disable engine sound, and option that is mysteriously absent in its tie fighter sibling. Makes you think about how many fucks they gave about quality of the release.
 
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