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I will probably be ridiculed (again), but could someone explain me what was so great about these games? I dropped into PC gaming much later and never played these games. So why are these the holy grails of oldschool RPGs?
 

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I will probably be ridiculed (again), but could someone explain me what was so great about these games? I dropped into PC gaming much later and never played these games. So why are these the holy grails of oldschool RPGs?

They are the holy grail because of two important things: First the writing and the plot was awesome combined with first person exploration and turn based party combat. Second it was the first translation of the AD&D 2E rules to a computer game.
 

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They are the holy grail because of two important things: First the writing and the plot was awesome combined with first person exploration and turn based party combat. Second it was the first translation of the AD&D 2E rules to a computer game.

Slight correction... The Gold Box games were the first translation of the original AD&D rules to a computer game -- they were also accompanied by two Dungeon Master Assistant programs for tabletop DMs. Pool of Radiance came out less than a year before the 2e PHB hit the streets, and all of the other games using that engine came out when 2e was the current ruleset.

Eye of the Beholder was the first AD&D 2e computer game.

Just because I can't resist an opportunity to be pedantic.
 

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I will probably be ridiculed (again), but could someone explain me what was so great about these games? I dropped into PC gaming much later and never played these games. So why are these the holy grails of oldschool RPGs?
They had great D&D party combat. You also got to select your character's icons and colours, add beards to your dwarves and arm them with bardiches. Previously, with Wizardry and Bard's Tale your party were attacking in lines of dialogue. Pool of Radiance gave you the whole battlefield and early tactical combat, dropping Stinking Cloud and Fireball spells onto as many kobolds as you could take out, having your thief actually attack from the rear for a backstab. Monsters would turn your guys to stone and they'd stand there grey on the battlefield. It was kind of glorious... for its day. Only Ultima IV stacked up at the time with its extraordinary morality system and exploration.

Fantastic games... for 12 year old D&D players. Probably a total confusing bore to play now. Will undoubtedly buy them because they're all still sitting on my shelf in their pure shimmering boxes, like bricks of gold bulllion that Larry Elmore has drawn pictures on. Still, worth paying Gog because I no longer have a way to play Apple IIc and 3.5" DOS discs, and because they should appear in my inventory every time I log in because :obviously:
 
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Yeah, Blood and Magic was in the original "Forgotten Realms: The Archives" released by Interplay in 1999. Odd that it's not included. What they've released now is identical to the contents of 1997's "Forgotten Realms Archives" but divided into three parts.

That's because the 1997 Forgotten Realms Archives release IS the original release, you got it the other way around.
 

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What's even more troubling is that there are 18 notifications in the library tab. How many potato games does Bruticis own? Place your bets.

My .txt says that he actually has a couple of hundred games at GoG - but I just couldn't let that opportunity slip.
 

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That's because the 1997 Forgotten Realms Archives release IS the original release, you got it the other way around.

That's not what I meant by "original". Original as in, this GOG release is named directly after it and seems to mirror it exactly, except for Blood & Magic (and the Baldur's Gate 1 demo)
 

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How do you like the DROD games? I am a puzzle pleb and I can barely get through the 4th one AKA the "easy" one :)
Oh I get stuck a lot and get pissed off and quit playing for a few weeks. Pretty fun games for quick time killers.
 

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How do you like the DROD games? I am a puzzle pleb and I can barely get through the 4th one AKA the "easy" one :)

I own the DROD games (outside of GOG).

The first two games are brutally hard, but DROD 3 and 4 are easier. The problem with DROD 4 is that it's just boring, by that point the formula of the game has become stale and there's too many game elements to keep tabs on. That's why I haven't bought DROD 5 yet - I fear that it's just not worth the effort.
 

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While "Gaben Worshipers" are currently the most obnoxious crowd, GOG Fanboys are also extremely scary.

Go on the forums right know and you'll find people begging to be SOLD OFFICIALLY RELEASED FREEWARE GAMES.
Not "Abandonware", but games that have be released as freeware by the Developers/Publishers themselves.

Reading the threads arguing that people "should not play Ur-Quan Masters, but instead pay Atari/GOG for SC2."


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