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Sjukob

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I fucking hate Morrowind and faggots that endorse it! It's a shit game that allowed enormous turds like Oblivion and Skyrim to arise, and it's wasn't a good game, it was a start of the decline. It inherited it's good bits from Arena and Daggerfall (like magic system and history foundation) and those were made by other people, and even then they went from a more mature fantasy to a teen like, probably for it to be easier accepted by public or something. People accuse TES of streamlining and catering to a larger audience, while Morrowind took such path itself, just go play Daggerfall to see what was cut. Morrowfags like to jerk off to the lore which is pretty retarded as the it doesn't have strictly defined rules or deep enough explanation of the most events and that allows for any thing to be pulled out of someone's ass and it will work alright. Morrowind lore fags or TES lore fags in general might be the worst and most autistic group you will encounter in RPG community, the problem of good lore is pretty common in games, but for some reason TES is the most cancerous, probably because the gameplay is so bad that players would rather fight each other on forums. The only decent thing about Morrowind that I can think of is hand made world, TES is often praised for it's modding but no mods really save any TES game and at the very best they just make them OK, what I'm trying to say is that TES popularity seems unjustified to me, it's pretty bad all around and by trying to make it better you are just wasting your time.

Good thing that all this cancer wasn't as active lately, but now when Todd & Co have announced their new game it will light up again, oh boy here we go.
 
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I fucking hate Morrowind and faggots that endorse it! It's a shit game that allowed enormous turds like Oblivion and Skyrim to arise, and it's wasn't a good game, it was a start of the decline. It inherited it's good bits from Arena and Daggerfall (like magic system and history foundation) and those were made by other people, and even then they went from a more mature fantasy to a teen like, probably for it to be easier accepted by public or something. People accuse TES of streamlining and catering to a larger audience, while Morrowind took such path itself, just go play Daggerfall to see what was cut. Morrowfags like to jerk off to the lore which is pretty retarded as the it doesn't have strictly defined rules or deep enough explanation of the most events and that allows for any thing to be pulled out of someone's ass and it will work alright. Morrowind lore fags or TES lore fags in general might be the worst and most autistic group you will encounter in RPG community, the problem of good lore is pretty common in games, but for some reason TES is the most cancerous, probably because the gameplay is so bad that players would rather fight each other on forums. The only decent thing about Morrowind that I can think of is hand made world, TES is often praised for it's modding but no mods really save any TES game and at the very best they just make them OK, what I'm trying to say is that TES popularity seems unjustified to me, it's pretty bad all around and by trying to make it better you are just wasting your time.

Good thing that all this cancer wasn't as active lately, but now when Todd & Co have announced their new game it will light up again, oh boy here we go.

What? Emba5 is basically the best elder scrolls experience.
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DalekFlay

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There's been several threads like this over the years and I always find them a little odd since Codexers disagree on stuff the same as any other forum. There's a lot of Pillars of Eternity hate out there but I'm sure plenty of people like the game a lot. Same goes for a lot of others. That said...

Skyrim - I found it a big improvement over Oblivion in both writing and environment design. Still a bit derpy but a fun game, especially with some tweaks.

Risen 2 - I'm going to emphasize LIKE here, not love. I just really like the setting and PB's great dialog, which made up for the many problems and limited scope.

Splinter Cell: Blacklist - I remember really enjoying it, considering it a great return to form after a couple stinkers. Don't ask for details though, it's a vague memory.

Also any of the recent Shadowrun games.
 
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unfairlight

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SC: Blacklist was fine to good but only because there have been no other good stealth games since forever. It did a lot of things right, like the fun wall climbing, customization, co-op, Spies vs Mercs and the Assault/Panther/Ghost mechanic. Similarly, it did a lot of things wrong but above all the poor shadow and stealth system was the worst since it was binary between being inside shadows or light. It was also very inconsistent and sometimes enemies could detect you from miles away even when in darkness but other times they can't see you at all even when in light.
Regardless, I think SC: Blacklist was really fun. I loved how they gave you a ton of tools to approach different situations and allowing you to mix and match them to suit your needs, but balancing was a bit of a mess as often the non-lethal tools were better than the lethal tools. The scoring was bad though, and sort of compromised the Assault/Panther/Ghost mechanic, as distractions and smoke grenades made your ghost points into panther points.
I think the SC ranking would probably go something like:
SC3 > SC1 = SC2 > Blacklist > Double Agent (7th gen) > Conviction
No word on SC DA 6th generation, as I haven't played it.
 
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DalekFlay

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SC3 > SC1 = SC2 > Blacklist > Double Agent (7th gen) > Conviction
No word on SC DA 6th generation, as I haven't played it.

I hear that Xbox version of Double Agent was basically more Chaos Theory, which tingles by balls. Shame we didn't get that version on PC. I certainly ain't buying an OG Xbox to play it with, despite Chaos Theory being one of my favorite games. Maybe someday on an emulator.
 
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Yes, I heard the same from my friend who's a SC ultrafan. From what I saw of it, it looked pretty cool.
SCDA 7th gen wasn't that bad, leagues ahead of Conviction but it wasn't good either. It was pretty forgettable and the level design was often complete trash, especially the middle east missions. It's also buggy as hell, the game softlocks if you try to complete it at a 1080p resolution, and you have to lower it in order to actually complete the game.
It did have some positive aspects though, the HQ missions were pretty well done, the Lambert scene was great, you could grab enemies while you were against a wall and they were walking towards you and the Hotel/Casino/Whatever mission was really well done. It was massive.
I think the game was bad because Ubisoft Shanghai was forced to make the game into a technical benchmark instead of an actual game, and they didn't have the capacity to build a interesting or complete story like the team behind 6th gen did.
 

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Double Agent is definitely a game I remember having cool moments and sections, but they were spread out among a lot of mediocre stuff. Also a lot of the levels were really short and small, if I remember correctly. And yeah, I remember the PC port (even at the time) being a total piece of shit.
 
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unfairlight

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The levels weren't really that small, they were just painfully linear. Only one that wasn't was probably that casino mission, but it was timed so that you couldn't explore it that much.
 

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The levels weren't really that small, they were just painfully linear. Only one that wasn't was probably that casino mission, but it was timed so that you couldn't explore it that much.

Could be linearity I'm remembering, fair enough. I recall stuff like the prison level being short and simple but it could just be simple. I haven't played the game since before I was married which means at least 10 years ago. I just remember really liking the HQ stuff and liking a lot of moments in the real levels but being disappointed overall by those levels' complexity. And also thinking it was amazing a company released a game so technically broken.
 

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I'm expecting a bunch of shit for this but fuck it here it goes. My taste in games is pretty much the opposite of most from what I see here, which I guess is why I don't post that much here about games.
I play mostly on pc, but most of those are games that are available on console or cheap humble bundle type shit. I like to play an rpg occasionally but I'm not a super fanatic about them, I don't think I have even played an rpg for a significant amount in over a year (shadowrun dragonfall).
I like Nintendo( well main mario games anyway) and some Sony exclusives ( I enjoyed Last of Us, God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn . Detroit Too Human looks like shit to me, meh on Spiderman and Days Gone). I have enjoyed Telltale games like Tales from the Borderlands and Walking Dead season 1 ( though I would never spend more than a few dollars for the telltale games)
About what games the codex likes that I hate, I actually have a hard time remembering a game that somebody here didn't call a piece of shit or something for consoletards, so I don't even know what the codex generally considers good. I think Age of Decadence is mostly liked. I don't own the game and haven't played it. but from what I have seen of it, it doesn't appeal to me at all. I tried playing geneforge which I know some people like here but I thought it was ugly as shit and boring
 
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Codex hates the first Dragon Age, but I liked it a lot. Also, I think Pillars of Eternity was a really good game, and it is regularly shit on.

The games I hate that the codex likes? Gothic, Risen, Elex. I think they are pure shit games, and for the life of me I cannot understand why anybody likes them.
 

Decado

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Also, while the story in Mass Effect 3 was total garbage, the guns/gameplay was really fucking good. The mutliplayer was awesome, and it looks to have inspired Anthem (we'll see). I was as shocked as anyone when BioWare made a competent -- perhaps even damn good -- third person cover shooter.
 

mck

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SC3 > SC1 = SC2 > Blacklist > Double Agent (7th gen) > Conviction
No word on SC DA 6th generation, as I haven't played it.

I hear that Xbox version of Double Agent was basically more Chaos Theory, which tingles by balls. Shame we didn't get that version on PC. I certainly ain't buying an OG Xbox to play it with, despite Chaos Theory being one of my favorite games. Maybe someday on an emulator.

you can always play the PS2 version
 
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unfairlight

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PS2 version kinda smoked some poles compared to Xbox version. FPS was far lower and graphics were worse. Xbox is the best way to play the game, Wii would probably be the worst. The Wii version of Double Agent didn't even render shadows.
 

DalekFlay

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Yeah I have thought about playing Double Agent on a PS2 emulator but I would guess it has worse GRAPHIXX as well as smaller areas and more loads, which would annoy the hell out of me. We're never getting an Xbox emulator though I guess, so maybe I'll give in.
 
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unfairlight

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Areas and loads are all the same, but lighting, shadows and shading are wildly worse. Game itself is mostly the same though, it's not like the difference between Gamecube/PS2 and Xbox/PC with Chaos Theory, the game and levels are typically the same, but not entirely.
I heard that Double Agent on OG Xbox is backwards compatible on the Xbox 360, and Xbox 360s are pretty cheap today. Might want to have a look at that.
If you can put up with this guy then you can watch this and get a side by side comparison.
 

DalekFlay

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Yeah he makes it clear it's more than just graphics, but also some level design. Meh. Like I said I'll probably just think about it a while and then end up forgetting all about it and playing other shit, which is fine. Chaos Theory 2 sounds great but I've got a backlog a mile long. Also I kind of want to install Double Agent PC right now to see if it's as bad as I remembered before.
 
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It's pretty bad. Runs like total dogshit and is buggy beyond belief. The story is also full of gaps and doesn't really feel very good.
 

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They hate them because they have deeper RPG mechanics than most RPGs...

That's an understatement.

UFO Aftershock and Afterlight. It's RTwP so they (mostly incompetent combatfags) hate it.

Me too, i can't say i was cool about what they did, still, i can't help but play every X-COM game since Enemy Unknown, i think i'm hooked, it's worse than heroin¨.

Besides being a M&M fan since Isles of Terra and HoMM 2 (one was decent too), i loved old console and arcade games like Golden Axe, Dynamite Dux, Altered Beast, R-Type, Thunderforce 3,
Shining Force 1 & 2, Suikoden ...

I also played and enjoyed old EA sports hockey and american football games.

And Speedball 2 !

So, am i banned from the codex ?
 

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