Development Info Fallout fans ask - <i>Who's your daddy?</i>. Bethesda Answers.

[Longshanks]

I think everyone's missing the 1 positive aspect of this news.
If your father is an NPC in the game, assuming he's human, it is very unlikely we will be able to play as anything but a human. No playable ghouls, mutants or deathclaws.

 

[The_Nameless_Prick]

While I believe I do see the point you're making about a central character like such a father, I wonder if that's enough to know the game will disappoint like many people here seem to think.

I didn't like Oblivion as much as I had hoped I might, but it had nothing to do with the fact that certain famous actors were used to voice main characters. Some of you seem to think that's enough to spell disaster, but I must beg to differ.

Why not just wait untill we're able to actually play the game, or at the very least know a great deal more (anything at all) about the content of the game, before dismissing it?

I agree with this, as I stated at DaC. I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game. Voice acting tells us very little of the game itself. Bethesda has enough wealth and influence to acquire famous actors, even to use as PR influence. The game still might be good so don't go on a bitchy rant yet.

Oblivion sucks and we all know it. More people have realized this fact overtime and I think Bethesda learned a thing or two themselves.

Wait until we get more info before diving into a pessimistic rant.

 

[Diogo Ribeiro]

Oblivion sucks and we all know it. More people have realized this fact overtime and I think Bethesda learned a thing or two themselves.

Yes, I think they woke up to the harsh reality when Oblivion sales for Windows and Xbox reached 3 million. That's a slap to the face for any company, really.

 

[Shoelip]

While I believe I do see the point you're making about a central character like such a father, I wonder if that's enough to know the game will disappoint like many people here seem to think.

I didn't like Oblivion as much as I had hoped I might, but it had nothing to do with the fact that certain famous actors were used to voice main characters. Some of you seem to think that's enough to spell disaster, but I must beg to differ.

Why not just wait untill we're able to actually play the game, or at the very least know a great deal more (anything at all) about the content of the game, before dismissing it?

I agree with this, as I stated at DaC. I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game. Voice acting tells us very little of the game itself. Bethesda has enough wealth and influence to acquire famous actors, even to use as PR influence. The game still might be good so don't go on a bitchy rant yet.

Oblivion sucks and we all know it. More people have realized this fact overtime and I think Bethesda learned a thing or two themselves.

Wait until we get more info before diving into a pessimistic rant.

Sure if the only thing that makes something a Fallout game is the word Fallout being in the title.

I think Bethesda learned that they don't have to make good games to sell tons of copies because crap appeals to the masses and even people who know the games suck will buy them regardless.

Well here's a crazy idea, don't buy crappy games!

Alexander, the reason people are making such a big deal about the celebrity voice acting announcement is because they are announcing having hired a single, very expensive actor as the very first bit of information they've released about the game. This implies that they care more about hype than gameplay, and it was also what they did with Oblivion. Maybe you just don't care as much as other people that everything we know points to another dumbed demonstration in aesthetics instead of a sequel to the Fallout series but most people on these boards do.

Also, the only legal way to play it is to buy it, which completely defeats the purpose of not buying it. Once you've bought it they don't care what you think anymore because they already have your money.

 

[Excrément]

While I believe I do see the point you're making about a central character like such a father, I wonder if that's enough to know the game will disappoint like many people here seem to think.

I didn't like Oblivion as much as I had hoped I might, but it had nothing to do with the fact that certain famous actors were used to voice main characters. Some of you seem to think that's enough to spell disaster, but I must beg to differ.

Why not just wait untill we're able to actually play the game, or at the very least know a great deal more (anything at all) about the content of the game, before dismissing it?

I agree with this, as I stated at DaC. I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game. Voice acting tells us very little of the game itself. Bethesda has enough wealth and influence to acquire famous actors, even to use as PR influence. The game still might be good so don't go on a bitchy rant yet.

Oblivion sucks and we all know it. More people have realized this fact overtime and I think Bethesda learned a thing or two themselves.

Wait until we get more info before diving into a pessimistic rant.

the problem is not Liam, I don't give a shit about Liam Neeson, the problem is that they will use voiced dialog, which mean the dialog will be either poor or limited.
I could understand this feature in an elderscroll game because dialog is not the main issue in any elderscrolls games, but in Fallout, sorry to agree with codexer, it truly sucks.

 

[taxacaria]

Oblivion sucks and we all know it. More people have realized this fact overtime and I think Bethesda learned a thing or two themselves.

Apparently I've missed something.

It turns out that I feel like we delivered on what people expected. There was no bump, people didn't say, 'It's good but not as good as it should have been.' I think the scores and awards reflect that we delivered on people's expectations.

>>complete interview<<

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

JK, so if you had 10 million Euros to build a football team, you'd have no qualms with the idea of buying a left defender for 9 million? Someone has to play there, right?

What are you, an idiot?

By JK he was adressing Joe Krow, even someone as narcistic and brainfucked as you should have got it, moron.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

Awesome! Does that means you can kill your father in the game? Just kidding.

I'd better avoid reading FO3 topics on the codex in the future and will stay with the NMA.

We'd appreciate it if you could also avoid posting on the codex in the future.

I already stated, that you are the only german codex user whos opinion shouldn't be taken seriously

He, how funny. I always thought Claw is one of the posters whos posts are always worthwile to read an who is enjoyably far way from the cliched german idiocy represtended by you and Nedrah.

 

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[cutterjohn]

[*]"Neeson will play the role of the player’s father..." In both the Fallouts, you were a lone individual. Your background and who you were was left up to you. I liked that aspect of just being a nameless, unknown adventurer. Here, it looks like we have a whole family that we're supposed to care about.

I did too, but in FO3 a mushroom cloud icon will indicate non-killable plot NPCs rather than a crown icon.

Acting, IIRC from the back of my Oblivious manual it looks like there were maybe 8 actors listed in the voice credits, but I can't be bothered to find it an verify that right now. It sure as hell sounded like they only used about 4 though, and now with this announcement(like my new sig? I made it the other when this hit...) I fully expect FO3 to be a post-Oblivious adventure or IOW Oblivious with Gunz!!!11!ONE!1. What slight hope I may have had has been severely damaged by this latest item from the Bethesda hype machine, but I'll still live in denial until I see some in game shots AND some commentary from legitimate people who have played a beta or the final version...

 

[Shoelip]

[*]"Neeson will play the role of the player’s father..." In both the Fallouts, you were a lone individual. Your background and who you were was left up to you. I liked that aspect of just being a nameless, unknown adventurer. Here, it looks like we have a whole family that we're supposed to care about.

I did too, but in FO3 a mushroom cloud icon will indicate non-killable plot NPCs rather than a crown icon.

Acting, IIRC from the back of my Oblivious manual it looks like there were maybe 8 actors listed in the voice credits, but I can't be bothered to find it an verify that right now. It sure as hell sounded like they only used about 4 though, and now with this announcement(like my new sig? I made it the other when this hit...) I fully expect FO3 to be a post-Oblivious adventure or IOW Oblivious with Gunz!!!11!ONE!1. What slight hope I may have had has been severely damaged by this latest item from the Bethesda hype machine, but I'll still live in denial until I see some in game shots AND some commentary from legitimate people who have played a beta or the final version...

Actually the Oblivion manual doesn't have any credits. Just an ad for the Oblivion merchandise store.

 

[aries202]

For some reason, there seems to be a trend in the gaming industry to hype games as sort of interactive or cinematic movies. And what do you in the movies ? You announce that Patrick Stewart or Liam Neeson will be starring in your movie, and then people usually flock to the movies to see Liam Neeson or Julia Roberts or Harrison Ford.

Apparently, everyone in the gaming industry has forgotten that a game is a game and a movie is a movie and that people's motivation for playing a game is not to sit and watch some famous actor
do voice acting for the game. It is to be a integral part of the story, feeling that your decision as player and character in the game really affect & effect the outcome of the game.

Bioware seems to be under this impression, too, unfortunately, imo.

As for hiring Liam Neeson, and Patrick Stewart, I'm not that convinced that they were that expensive. I mean if you make a USD 15-20 million game, using maybe USD, 100,000 or even 250,000 or maybe even USD 750,0000 to pay say Liam Neeson and maybe another famuous (voice) actor, this isn't real that great del a % of the total budget. And who is to say that dialoque will be the same crappy thing they did in Oblivion ?? I mean Mass Effect seem to have a take on how to make dialoque appear meaningfull and full of choices. They could hace chosen to go a similar route than ME did.

 

[Jim Kata]

I agree with this, as I stated at DaC. I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game. .

So if they shovel out a gay porn dvd with the name fallout, will you buy that, too?

 

[Vault Dweller]

And who is to say that dialoque will be the same crappy thing they did in Oblivion ?? I mean Mass Effect seem to have a take on how to make dialoque appear meaningfull and full of choices. They could hace chosen to go a similar route than ME did.

Bioware is indeed a world expert on how to make dialogues *appear* meaningful and full of choices.

 

[Lumpy]

I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game.

Pete would probably masturbate if he saw this.
Really, that's plain stupid. But that's probably what Beth are hoping Fallout fans will do.
If they make a true Fallout game most fans will buy it but very few casual gamers will. On the other hand, if they make a casual game, the mainstream crowd will all buy it to watch the bloomed Liam Neeson father character, and a large number of Fallout fans will buy it as well out of curiosity. So the second is clearly better for Bethesda.

 

[Shoelip]

Ar matey! Stick to the code. Don't buy crap.

 

[Excrément]

I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game.

Pete would probably masturbate if he saw this.
Really, that's plain stupid. But that's probably what Beth are hoping Fallout fans will do.
If they make a true Fallout game most fans will buy it but very few casual gamers will. On the other hand, if they make a casual game, the mainstream crowd will all buy it to watch the bloomed Liam Neeson father character, and a large number of Fallout fans will buy it as well out of curiosity. So the second is clearly better for Bethesda.

fallout fans = 50,000 people
why Bethesda will care about them?
their only interest is in a PR perspective. it's good to have journalists saying that "this game that core fans are praising "

 

[Zomg]

I wouldn't be surprised if real quality voice actors as used by Bioware or Troika end up much more expensive than Bethesda-style random celebrities, because the real VA guys like DiMaggio are clearly investing a lot more in the roles, assimilating a lot of context and working with real VO directors across multiple sessions. The Bethesda random celebrity VO method is a guy reading lines off a page with generic fantasy affect and taking minimal direction with no understanding of context. I'm sure the random celebrities barely consider it work, and are probably paid accordingly.

 

[Krafter]

Mother sold seperately.

Ha ha, I think I know what the inevitable expansion pack will be about.

They are making an Oblivion post-apocalypse mod. Switch trees with the desert, switch Picard with Qui-Gon, ect. Keep Jeremy Soule, though.

I like Liam Neeson, but hyping up actors before any aspect of the game itself smells too much like Hollywood to me. Our movie sucks, but isn't the star dreamy?

 

[Jim Kata]

I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game.

Pete would probably masturbate if he saw this.
Really, that's plain stupid. But that's probably what Beth are hoping Fallout fans will do.
If they make a true Fallout game most fans will buy it but very few casual gamers will. On the other hand, if they make a casual game, the mainstream crowd will all buy it to watch the bloomed Liam Neeson father character, and a large number of Fallout fans will buy it as well out of curiosity. So the second is clearly better for Bethesda.

fallout fans = 50,000 people
why Bethesda will care about them?
their only interest is in a PR perspective. it's good to have journalists saying that "this game that core fans are praising "

Lumpy, oh how have you not received your dumbfuck tag yet. Even the least populat troika game has 250k+ fans....

 

[dagorkan]

Yeah but do you know the minds of 250k people? No, all we hear about are the views of the same few hundred angry geeks who post on NMA. I don't have any problem with their actual views, everybody is free to express one. And I personally agree with most of their views.

What gets me is the arrogance and idiocy of a person suggesting he can speak for all Fallout fans ("The Fallout Community"). If you are honest say "this is what NMA thinks", because that's all they could ever represent.

It's less flattering of course but hysterical ranting usually provokes a backlash.

 

[Greenskin13]

I am gay for you.

I agree with this, as I stated at DaC. I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game. .

So if they shovel out a gay porn dvd with the name fallout, will you buy that, too?

Only if it has Liam Neeson in it.

 

[Volourn]

"Even the least populat troika game has 250k+ fans...."

Bullshit. Their sales chart disprove sthat, and that's considering those who bought it. Lest we forget about those who bought the games and hated it.

R00fles!

 

[Jim Kata]

Yeah but do you know the minds of 250k people? No, all we hear about are the views of the same few hundred angry geeks who post on NMA. I don't have any problem with their actual views, everybody is free to express one. And I personally agree with most of their views.

What gets me is the arrogance and idiocy of a person suggesting he can speak for all Fallout fans ("The Fallout Community"). If you are honest say "this is what NMA thinks", because that's all they could ever represent.

It's less flattering of course but hysterical ranting usually provokes a backlash.

Some of the NMA people are pretty retarded, but seriously, most fallout fans seem in agreement with most of what i say, at least.

 

[Lumpy]

I will buy the game no matter what, considering it's a Fallout game.

Pete would probably masturbate if he saw this.
Really, that's plain stupid. But that's probably what Beth are hoping Fallout fans will do.
If they make a true Fallout game most fans will buy it but very few casual gamers will. On the other hand, if they make a casual game, the mainstream crowd will all buy it to watch the bloomed Liam Neeson father character, and a large number of Fallout fans will buy it as well out of curiosity. So the second is clearly better for Bethesda.

fallout fans = 50,000 people
why Bethesda will care about them?
their only interest is in a PR perspective. it's good to have journalists saying that "this game that core fans are praising "

Lumpy, oh how have you not received your dumbfuck tag yet. Even the least populat troika game has 250k+ fans....

Reading is hard, eh?
I didn't mention any numbers, moron.