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Mod News Fallout 4 Far Harbor DLC contains quest stolen from Codexer-developed New Vegas mod

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. sgmgender: ⚧ Novice

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    Can't wait to play Fallout 1.5 Resurrection tomorrow and see what Bethesda will steal next. :M
     
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  2. Jedi Master Radekgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Let's make a kickstarter for a lawyer for Chateaubryan !
     
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  3. I'm With Her Metrogender: ⚧ for prison Arcane Beg Auditor

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    There's no lawsuit here. Well, nothing based on American laws. Anyway, even if there were some far flung argument to be made no lawyer is going to take on Bethesda when the damage awards will be next to nothing.
     
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  4. pologender: ⚧ Arbiter

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    This is good, Bethesa stopped making shit material and started stealing GOOD one, i don't see what's the problem.
     
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  5. SniperHFgender: ⚧ Prophet

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    I like the twitter denial. Probably didn't even look at the mod in question up to that point.

    A Black Geyser?

    I want to push every button parade option for this post.
     
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  6. HoboForEternitygender: ⚧ Magister

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    autumn leaves was an awesome mod, those who havent played it should.

    and bethesda is piece of shit
     
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  7. Severian Silkgender: ⚧ Guest

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    In Europe too?
     
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    Old But Gold.
     
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  9. LizardWizardgender: ⚧ Savant

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    Reddit shilling for Bethsoft harder than even NaziGaf over this:positive:
     
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  10. HoboForEternitygender: ⚧ Magister

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    link to their forums? wanna see what kind of arguments idiots capable of
     
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    Infinitron we have already proven the two quests are not like anything aside from it being a murder mystery, having a vault, and having robots.

    So, please explain to me how this is a case of copyright infringement when no scripts, assets or dialogue were used from Autumn Leaves, a mod which released only a few weeks before Fallout 4 and considering how already in the Fallout 4 art book we saw Far Harbor concept art, it's more likely they already had the whole thing planned out even before Autumn Leaves.

    As Trash said, god help anyone read The Hero With a Thousand Faces, mankind's been stealing the same ideas throughout all of time.

    EDIT: Just to make Infinitron look even more stupid, that screenshot he posted as "proof" is just a staged shot from the developers, this is how the player actually enters the crime scene in Fallout 4:
    https://youtu.be/CV963dGqOsY?t=2m

    Hey though, I guess false reporting (ala Kotaku) is one of the key features of modern day games journalism so I guess this isn't a special case of retardedness or anything.
     
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  12. TZ3Kgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Shill boy shill.
     
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  13. DosBustergender: ⚧ Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    Worst part is that I didn't even like the quest in Fallout 4.
     
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  14. Make America Great Again Ninjerkgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    More people are going to buy the mod and in a week no one will give a shit.
     
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  15. Severian Silkgender: ⚧ Guest

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    Did you look at ALL the screenshots and read the dialogues on them?

    http://www.moddb.com/mods/autumn-leaves/news/big-publishers-and-a-small-mod
     
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  16. DosBustergender: ⚧ Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    Yes, so it takes place in a vault, ok, not like Bethesda likes to use those a lot for "quirky" things.

    That dialogue at the control panel? Well, in the quest you've been found and brought there so that's not stolen.

    That vault screenshot? Well, if you looked at my link that's not at all how you enter, and the layout is different, it looks like a Vault atrium but that's Bethesda's design so you can't really steal your own design.

    When Maxwell tells you to look for clues? Yeah, how many other ways are there to write "go to crime scene and look for clues"?

    The human remains scene is built completely differently.

    Ok, yeah, the voice modulator part is familiar, however, its use of distinguishing the robots from each other isn't a very new idea in sci-fi, so it looks to me two people had the same idea of how to solve a problem.

    The sexytime moment is not at all the same, I'm not sure if you even fuck the robot in AL from what I've heard, also the intent between those lines of dialogue are completely different.
     
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  17. Make America Great Again Infinitrongender: ⚧ Trade Master Patron

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    DosBuster, it's okay. Emil Pagliarulo won't cut you off and refuse to answer your emails if you say nothing. You've proven your loyalty.
     
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  19. oasis789gender: ⚧ Arcane

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    I've seen this posted and removed from reddit/r/games several times today.
     
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  20. Make America Great Again imweaselgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Fuck Bethesda. What a bunch of lazy, cheap-ass hacks. Their shit games aren't even worth pirating, not even with this one good quest.
     
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  21. bylamgender: ⚧ Funcom Developer

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    Not played either of these (Fallout 4 or Autumn Leaves) but how likely is it really that it is plagiarized? Who has played both and can comment definitively?
    If Autumn Leaves was released "weeks before Fallout 4" as the OP says, then it is pretty unlikely. Bethesda did a simultaneous PS4, Xbox One and PC release - so just doing console certification means they were sending the game to those publishers 3 months before release.

    Anecdotally, the number of people who say something on The Secret World forums like "I have an idea for a mission" - which is something we have already designed and haven't yet implemented is very high. And when it releases they say "Yay, they used my idea".

    I dunno, it seems like a stretch to me...
     
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  22. Make America Great Again Infinitrongender: ⚧ Trade Master Patron

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    The Far Harbor DLC was released in May. After the main game was released, Todd Howard was all like, "We need to figure out what we're going to do now because we don't know yet". Everybody thought he was lying because of course they must have plenty of ideas and have it all planned out already, but who knows?
     
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  24. bylamgender: ⚧ Funcom Developer

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    I need a coffee - totally missed that it was a DLC that came out much later than the main game.
     
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  25. Severian Silkgender: ⚧ Guest

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    What fucking video are you watching? He clearly walks through a rolling gate like all vaults.

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