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Mod News Fallout 4 Far Harbor DLC contains quest stolen from Codexer-developed New Vegas mod

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Jul 14, 2016.

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    Tags: Bethesda Softworks; Fallout 4; Fallout: Autumn Leaves; Fallout: New Vegas

    Autumn Leaves is a DLC-sized quest mod for Fallout: New Vegas developed by BaronVonChateau, who you may know on the Codex as Chateaubryan. By all accounts it's an excellent mod, taking inspiration from classics such as Planescape: Torment and proudly upholding Codexian design values such as choice & consequence and skill checks. Hell, it even has a Cleve Blakemore reference. Unfortunately, coming out only weeks before the release of Fallout 4, Autumn Leaves was overlooked by many players. Somebody at Bethesda must have noticed it, though...because it turns out they shamelessly plagiarized it for their recent Far Harbor DLC. And I don't just mean that they took inspiration. Take a look at Chateaubryan's comparison at Mod DB:

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    A few weeks before Fallout 4’s release, Autumn Leaves, a Fallout : New Vegas Mod was published on Moddb and the Nexus. It featured a colorful cast of excentric robots, in charge of a forgotten Vault where a strange murder happened. Sounds familiar ?

    Maybe, to those who played Far Harbor’s “Brain Dead.”

    First off, both quests begins with a discussion through an interphone with the caretaker of the Vault, a headwaiter robot with a rather distinguished persona. The big mandatory Vault Door opens, leaving the player up for the exploration of said vault.

    The main quest itself, which consists in investigating the murder by checking the crime scene, and speaking to every robot in the Vault.

    The mysterious death of the prime financier of the Vault, who - in both cases - worked alongside Vault-Tec to build the special place.

    The importance of voice modulators in the plot, to distinguish the robots between themselves.

    The sexytime moment.

    And of course, the mandatory “Let’s discuss paintings with a robot.”

    Then, there’s the Neural Interface Matrix in BD versus the Neuro Comp Matrix in AL, the presence (and relevance to the plot) of a robotic expert in the Vault, the feel of the central atrium, the quasi-exclusive robotic cast confronted to a murder, the misleading piece of evidence (Keith/Rolland), among others.​

    The Codex has always talked about how Bethesda are creatively bankrupt, but this is a new low. So what can be done? Bethesda are probably legally within their rights doing this. I say they should be publicly shamed into extending credit to Chateaubryan...but that would take a louder megaphone than ours. Ultimately, all I can do is recommend that you download and play Autumn Leaves. And not Fallout 4.
     
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    Finally on the front page!

    This is unbelievable, Bethesda must be the laziest hacks out there. Not only did they buy the Fallout IP instead of creating their own, now they outright steal from modders!
     
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    Wow, that is completely shameful.
     
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  4. Juggiegender: ⚧ Scholar

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    Did Obsidian ever give credit to the guy who made Primary Needs mod for Fallout 3 which they incorporated into Fallout New Vegas or was it just Complete Coincidence™?
     
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    wtf, I hate bethesda now
     
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    While Bethesda is doing nothing illegal, I must say even I am surprised by this.
    What the actual hell.
     
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    Happens when you make a nigga lead designer.
     
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  8. Wulfstandgender: ⚧ Liturgist

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    Gonna definitely take a look over the Codexian mod now that I got hooked on New Vegas.
     
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    That's fucked up.
     
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    Ahaha, wow Bethesda... New low.
     
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    On the bright side there is one non retarded quest in F4...
    :troll:

    Also, good job, putting it on the front page:salute:
     
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    Bethesda should start stealing more form other developers, it is the only way for them to improve the quality.
     
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    Well, whatever you make with their Toolset/GECK is already owned by Bethesda so you're shit out of luck as a modder. :shittydog:
     
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    Mechanics is not content.

    There is small range of possible mechanics hitting particular mark and the basic ideas underneath them tend to be obvious.
    OTOH content is the creative part.
     
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    Oh, so somebody made a video about it:

     
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    If you want this to blow up, post it on Reddit.
     
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    I want it, so somebody post it on reddit.

    And yes - thank you Infinitron for front page, it will be well known and easier to find.
     
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    This is atrocious.:x
     
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  20. Make America Great Again Mozggender: ⚧ Arcane

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    I really value that youtuber that pronounces atrium "atrooom" reading text from some other website he found and putting the screenshots from that website next to each other while he mumbles over them

    Ya'll making me feel like 2015 Atticus Finch advocating for Bethesda here

    I regret having played Autumn Leaves unlike 99.9% of the people talking about this. I wouldn't have this burden of insight otherwise.
     
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    Wow, this is pathetic and shameless. Bethesda needs to be publicly shamed for this.

    Are they so incompetent that they thought no one would notice? Or do they really care that little to not even bother being called plagiarists?
     
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    As a blogger it's common to see your work "borrowed" elsewhere. The pros are creatively bankrupt and can't innovate anymore but are you in it for the revolution or to make a name for yourself? There is a reason monuments like the tomb of the unknown soldier exist. I think it would be better if big name developers copied good ideas more often.
     
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    ITZ COMING
     
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  24. Krongender: ⚧ Arcane

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    One thing is being inspired by other people's ideas, borrowing concepts and adapting them to a different setting/world. This is pretty common and a natural part of the world of fiction.
    Recreating a mod of a previous game in your franchise, even to the particular characters, situations and plot is just fucking lazy and too obvious.
     
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    You mean that Big Kahuna Burger William Shen? That wasn't a nigger you blind fuck.[​IMG]
     
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