Grand Strategy Europa Universalis IV essential dlc?

[Alienman]

Question for you EU experts here. What dlc is essential? Looking to buy it when the summer sale finally hits, but want to make sure I only buy the important stuff. Been reading a bit on it online, but some stuff seem a bit confusing, like how certain dlc are not needed anymore because other dlc have taken over their purpose... or something like that?

And yeah, you can always trust Codex to get a good answer on things

Btw, I'm not shy from buying cosmetic dlc if it adds to the game. Been buying all that small stuff for Crusader Kings II over the years, and it adds flavor even if you think Paradox could have included it in the main dlc itself.

Edit:

Oops, found the main EU thread after I posted this... but maybe it will help people getting the "good" dlc :/

 

[Corporate_Jew_Master]

art of war, common sense, pirate the rest

 

[trais]

I'd rate Art of War and Common Sense as must have, with Wealth of Nations, El Dorado and The Cossacks as ought to have, but can live without.

Then, if you really, really want some more flavour while playing as merchant republics then Res Publica, otherwise you can skip that. Same with and Conquest of Paradise and native Americans.

Mare Nostrum is junk, don't buy that.

 

[Lone Wolf]

You can live without virtually all of it.

The free patches add the 'must have' stuff that those DLCs might otherwise contain.

One exception being province development, which came with Common Sense - and which many people despise completely.

 

[Urbanolo]

Get Victoria 2 instead, since it's the last Paradox game worth buying.

 

[Hoodoo]

It's a shallow game. If you don't get bored of it after 4 hours you might be of the easily entertained kind. Consider switching to a ps4 library then.

There's no essential DLCs. They all add features that should have been in the base game in the first place, each and everyone of them upping their side of the game from boring shit to barely bearable.

Paradox has no business asking 250$ for the complete game. It's a ripoff. Pirate it, it's morally the right thing to do.

 

[Hoodoo]

Mare Nostrum is junk, don't buy that.

Full retard. Mare nostrum adds the ability to offer or buy mercenary companies, the most crucial mechanism in a game about Renaissance warfare. 3 years later.

 

[trais]

Which horribly breaks the game, because you can also offer them for free, and with that you can interfere in 3rd party wars without virtually any risks to yourself. On top of that, there's a good reason why you can't use "enforce peace" diplo-action unless you fulfill certain conditions and Mare Nostrum's Condottieri system skirts right past that requirements.

 

[Hoodoo]

and with that you can interfere in 3rd party wars without virtually any risks to yourself.

Exactly like in real life. Amazing.

 

[trais]

And you had options to do that before:
- directly by declaring a war (you can do that any time you want, you know) or using "enforce peace"
- indirectly by sending gifts and subsidies or using espionage

Just like in real life. And all of those options are balanced, costs vs benefits wise.

Also, you're fucking AIDS, go and play LARP in Africa or something, there's no need for you to shill for Paradox ITT.

 

[Hoodoo]

Sending gift and subsidies to the dumbshit AI when it's already under siege . Declaring war without casus belli, also . And calling me a Paracuck shill

Sovereigns lent chunks of their armies all the time without any formal declaration of war. Sounds like you just got your ass kicked by a surprise conditierri and can't deal with it.

 

[trais]

On the contrary, I've never seen AI using it, meanwhile it allowed me interfere in HRE where I had no business interfering. How this fucks up multiplayer games I can only imagine.

 

[Makabb]

eu 4 is fail game, eu series was always about map painting, eu4 cockblocks your map painting, if you want to be a cuck play eu 4.

 

[DakaSha II]

eu4 is the best game in the series, and trais is a dumbfuck that has no idea what hes talking about (took me a grand total of one game and < 5 years to see the AI use the fucking merc companies btw)

 

[Delterius]

How this fucks up multiplayer games I can only imagine.

Johan must be pissing in his pants.