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Information EU rules publishers cannot stop you reselling your downloaded games

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by VentilatorOfDoom, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. VentilatorOfDoom RPG Codex Staff Patron

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    The EU Court of Justice ruled that publishers/developers must not prevent you from reselling your digital copies of games, Eurogamer reports.

    If Valve or EA want to sell games in the EU, they better learn to abide the law, or else.

    There's another article covering the subject on Gamasutra.

    skuphundaku and Morkar Brofist this.
  2. RK47 No time like the present Patron

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    yay more drm to monitor transfer of ownership between users.
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    Yeah... it is bound to impact GOG this way... M:
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    Now we just have to sack ACTA - the voting is today - and we have some serious EU incline overall.

    EDIT: Look a RPStards bitch and moan "But because of this there will be less sales, the prices will go up!" :x Jesus, what fucking retards.
    villain of the story and Hellraiser Brofist this.
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    Wow this is huge. I just realized this is not just about games, this is all software.

    IMO, the majors are going to move everything into the cloud sooner, rather than later and there will be monthly fees, to use software instead of owning it outright. Not only will you be paying for the software, you will be paying for the hardware it is running on. I don't know if this will work out cheaper for the consumer, or more expensive in the long run, but I'd rather own something, than rent it.
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    You know guys... I got the feeling it will pressure the devs to change games from products to services and we will be fucked. Cloud Computing, here we come!
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    They were already doing it, this is like Phedophiles claiming that laws against child pornography increase child rape.
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    No, my friend, this is just prediction of what might happen. Yes the shift is already present but all that his will do is spurrying it even further.

    Don't get me wrong - I am glad that I will be able to sell my Steam games. I am just predicting what 'they' (publishers) will do to combat that, because let's face it - this is going to make them some major losses.
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    So Mrowak and pedophiles have similar rhetoric? Interesting...
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    Well, EU service regulations aren't exactly lenient, either. It could be argued that even with this law, even if the providers were to adhere to it in full, would possibly be less of a pain in the ass than running a full-fledged service that adheres to EU regulations and standards.

    Of course, we'd need someone that speaks legalese to say how it'd be.
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    Another trend is free to play, online only games and getting people hooked on services sold within the games. The only other thing I think they could try, is renting games instead of selling them outright, with DRM to deactivate them, at the end of the time limit.

    In the end, publishers will respond with whatever method makes them the most money. I don't think that response will be good for single player games.
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    That's all right. This ruling isn't responsible for it anyway. It was always like that in Germany. It's only reinforced by EU now.
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    Seriously, look at me and tell me if I give a fuck about "Cloud Computing". 95% of the game using this scheme will be pieces of shit anyway. Nothing of value will be lost.
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    The best advice I've heard for devs that are worried about rentals, is to make games people want to keep. Case in point, I will never sell my Fallout.
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    valve actually allowed transfer of your already used games to different accounts at some point. gamersgate even advertised with the ability of being able to resell/transfer your gg games back when it still belonged to paradox. not sure if steam or gg still roll that way
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    For a service like Steam (or Origin, I guess) it would be pretty easy to implement.
    Just remove the game from account A and unlock it on account B.
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    This. And if some devs decide to go this way instead of trying to get people to rent their cloud games it may still be massive incline.
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    Green Man Gaming allows trading in old games, so it's not something fuck knows what difficult to implement.

    So a few shitty 'AAA' devs won't get the tiny bit extra from selling their crap to another customer who would otherwise have bought it for a couple of dollars on a Steam sale. My heart bleeds. Maybe they should just dip into the marketing budget next time and actually make a decent game.
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    Did Valve really had that implemented at one point ? Sure does not work like that these days, but I would love the option. All the games I will never play again or will never play period, I would gift away or swap. Good games would stay.
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    i was certain they did, but upon googling it further, maybe my old man memory is playing tricks again.... gg on the other hand definitely did before the split with paradox.
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    I would love this to happen just so I can see the mental contortions the "steam isn't drm" brigade would resort to next ;)
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    EU, say bye to playing offline.
    codexian reject Brofists this.
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    Commissar Draco, Suchy, Sceptic and 2 others Brofist this.
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    Playing what? AAA rubbish?

    Strangely enough, I said goodbye to that some years ago...

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