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Empyre: Lords of the Sea Gates - steampunk RPG set in flooded New York

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by LESS T_T, Jul 13, 2017.

  1. LESS T_Tgender: ⚧ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    http://www.empyrethegame.com/

    Combat sounds like simultaneous turn-based.
     
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    It is RTwP. RT doesn't matter if it is based on rounds. Simultaneous turns would mean that you always have to pick actions for each character and the computer does the same for the bad guys and then the round plays out. Riddle of Steel and Burning Wheel are examples. If there is RT combat there are no turns, so can not be based on turns. In TB games you take turns in a round, which usually is representative of six or ten seconds of action. No turns means no turn based anything. It is simple logic.

    In P&P systems round based systems usually have interesting mechanics build around it, like moving to person X and attacking while he moves to Y and attacks. If he isn't in attack range your action was mainly wasted. But now maybe his back is towards yours so you have a new opportunity, etc. In RT games you attack someone and if he moves you automatically chase him all over until you issue a new direction.

    This looks like it could be a good game though. Thank you for the post.
     
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    I kinda like wished they'd go with 2D backgrounds, but tis will do too.
     
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    Cautiously optimistic about this one.

    It looks interesting.
     
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    Ok, meaningless buzzwords - check

    Storyfaggotry then. - check

    Old-school indeed...
    rtwp - check

    Verdict: 90% probability it will be shit - which means there is a little hope left.
     
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    Looks monocled as fuck tbh.
     
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    Hey - i am not edgy you faggot, i give it 10% chance of actually not sucking. Setting seems interesting and original enough.

    Setting is monocled - yes.
     
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    I expected pixel art and got actual 3D models so I guess that's a positive surprise.
     
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    Is it RTwP? Seems phase-based.
     
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    Looks good. Yeah, it seems more or less phase.
     
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    It's coming this fall and we're just hearing about it now? Do they mean early access? Even if it's lousy, I'll be very impressed if they actually deliver a real game on that timetable, rather than making us wait through years of promotion. I know keeping mum about your game may not be a great business decision, but don't you wish more studios did this?

    Also, doesn't this trailer look a lot like Demiurgos, just in terms of the engine, the art style, the fonts, etc...?
     
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    Sounds like a New Age of Decadence :bounce:
     
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    Presentation is so-so, but a phase based system isn't something you see in many games these days.
     
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    You are fabulously optimistic Comrade; Commissar prefers to expect it to be shit and then to be positively suprised; art style looks :obviously: but RTWP/TB hybrid combat and primitive 3D graphic remind Commissar all those cool looking but unplayable Vata made Akella games.
     
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    The story's premise sounded somewhat familiar, ie. search for water chip supply in post-apoc America. Except the titular "Empyre" and "story driven" mean they're likely gunning for an epic. That doesn't need to be bad of course, but epics often hinge on interesting worlds, and the Gilded Age isn't exactly one I would trust. Here's to meeting low expectations!
     
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    http://www.empyrethegame.com/news/release-date-announced

    O_o
     
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    Looks like they added more screenshots, especially combat screenshots: http://www.empyrethegame.com/media

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    And they buried some details in their forums.

    On combat system: http://www.empyrethegame.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9&sid=b6891feeb05a6cbc70ce4932b7dad66b

    Why not just call it steampunk? Because its world is not quite punk yet, they say: http://www.empyrethegame.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6&sid=b6891feeb05a6cbc70ce4932b7dad66b

    But it has funk in it: http://www.empyrethegame.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5&sid=b6891feeb05a6cbc70ce4932b7dad66b

     
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    So it's really real time with pause. :argh:
     
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    I thought it was phase based.
     
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    RTwP with fixed, forced pausing and unpausing intervals = phase-based. Like Frozen Synapse.

    Also WTF, why did they not tweet out that stuff?
     
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    That's not forced pausing and unpausing intervals.
     
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    This doesn't sound like Frozen Synapse from their wording?
     
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    Another dev log on the forum, how they "trained" the writer who never played a video game before o_O: http://www.empyrethegame.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12&sid=8077e4ebd003a46dbefe39d81def83fa

    They introduced the world of games to him with Fallout 2, huh.

    And about their official forum being empty: http://www.empyrethegame.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11&sid=8077e4ebd003a46dbefe39d81def83fa

    Well, he could visit here and answer questions about combat, quests, and other systems.
     
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    This is so weird. Fancy websites and press releases, and then no actual content.
     
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    If there is a dialogue option, "The 19th century isn't working out like I had hoped!" it'll be my GOTY for sure.
     
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