Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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Dungeon Rats - first impressions and general feedback

Discussion in 'Iron Tower Studio' started by Goral, Oct 30, 2016.

  1. PlanHexgender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    Note that fire goes through their armor, so may be more effective than bombs.
    I usually stand way back, let them come to me in the first turn, then hit them both with Strong fire bottles + maybe one or two bombs if the fire pushes them too far away, then pray no one dies from the ranged one while waiting for the fire to go out and closing in afterwards. Having the demon or construct to tank can help too if you can get them and don't plan on using them much.
     
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    Compared to AOD you get a metric shitton of alchemical reagants and bombs and the like, so compared to AOD use them more liberally.

    That said, if you need to exclusively use bombs to fight constructs you'll eventually run out, so maybe use them to get by when your level/build at the moment can't handle it
     
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    I finally won by using the super bomb a handful of acid and fire vials and a couple of bombs... but that was simply a war of attrition and not very satisfying. What pisses me off is that I was handling the constructs pretty well before that fight and now both this fight and the fight with the emperor feel more like potion and bomb management than skill,
    Planing and positioning like 90% of the game
    Loved the game so far and definetly on par with Age of Decadence as a damn excelent game but those final fights leave a sour taste in my mouth because they are more or less dicatated by resource management rather than player skill
    Replayed it and did it with 3 fire vials, 2 acid vials for the nailgun construct and 2 normal bombs... thanks for the tip on the shields for Marcus and Roxana, it helped a lot and afterwards My main char tanked most of the shots with the heaviest armor I could manage and it worked very well
     
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    One of us! (Solo hard ironman still worth without achievement)

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    seeing how you can be eradicated in a single combat round even with maxed out defense if you're unlucky : I believe that everybody who finishes the game on murderous psychopath solo iron man is a cheater who backs up his saves.
    If you honestly want to tell me it's possible to finish this game on ironman without backing up your saves: make a continuous video without breaks like Eyestabber did for AoD.
     
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  7. Goralgender: ⚧ Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    One of the newest Steam reviews: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198000938806/recommended/531930/

    And here's a totally different opinion of a person who actually likes challenging games:

    This Pole basically says that it's difficult and you can be easily smeared on the walls by your opponents but the same fight can be won if you prepare for it and learn from your mistakes and use different arrows/formation/strategy. He also says that usuallly such difficult games are frustrating but this one was different because your decisions actually mattered and it's not difficult for coolness effect only but actually treats the player with respect.

    His first post about DR is here: https://www.wykop.pl/wpis/23178863/dungeon-rats-ta-gra-to-straszny-brzydal-szczegolni/
     
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    It's simple - first one is a homosexual one, but not just homosexual - the passive one.
    Or he was educated in liberal education system, that's the same.
     
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    The first guy expects to cruise through the game winning every fight on the first try, or maybe on rare occasions the second try.
     
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    I know I'm rather late to the party but I just picked up the game a few days ago, right before the discount too :negative:.
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    Not that I regret forking over the cash

    And so far I like it a lot going with Spear/dodge 6 CHA. But I have a question about CS, is it worth to invest in for my main char if I take alchemy/crafting on my other 2 dudes or not?
     
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    Critical Strike is about "all or nothing".
    Basically, if you want viable crits in late-game, you need 10 Perception which gives critical chance, or it won't work in final battle.
     
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    Iron Tower developers are some of the mildest personalities I've ever seen in indie development.
     
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    Yeah, they are the sort of people you don't regret giving money to.
     
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    AoD was a pleasant surprise and I loved it. Picked up Dungeon Rats today. Is there any consensus to what is a good build on the latest patch for DR? I was thinking Sword/Dodge/Alchemy with party members, but I am curious to see opinions on this.
     
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    Almost any build is viable if you're not going Ironman. Sword/Dodge/Alchemy is good, you can definitely go with it. If you're afraid you can always play on a lower difficulty setting for the first time.
     
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    I have an opinion.
    There are not enough skill points to raise 3 things early enough (or at all) to sufficient levels. You'll never make a combat char as efficient as Roxana and still increase Alchemy. Best build is to go 9 or 10 CHA, 10 INT, rest in PER, go to Alchemy 3 then crafting 6 then alchemy 10 then crafting 10, then put points where you want (at char creation put the combat points into block) , and use Marcus as a tank (go to dodge 10 before you start putting points into hammers) and Ismail (ignore dodge) with crossbows until you get Roxana when you can drop Ismail. Get Roxanas THC as high as possible by putting points in xbow and throwing (good synergy) add some more critical strike and use xbows and throwing knifes, then add Yngvar to the party when you meet him. Strategy is to just use the heaviest armor and tower shield on your main, find a place where no one attacks you, let Marcus tank and wait until Roxana has mass raped all the enemies. Works very well. You will max Alchemy early so you have the stronkest poisons, neurostims , berserk potions etc. Roxana can rape the enforcer and all his men in like 2 combat rounds.
     
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    2 man party gave me hardest fights. Mascus as tank, main without dodge with crossbow.
     
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    Looks like Roxana and Marcus are pretty key. I will try out some of those recommendations and see how it goes.
     
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