Dragon Age: Inquisition is a better game than Pillars of Eternity

[Delterius]

Why everyone here hates PoE? Is it really a bad game? Or just below exceptions?

PoE is outstanding in Art and Music, mediocre in Quests and in its Story and polarizing in its Rules system since it departs from the source. Plus its RTwP which in the old days was enough to declare it shit. The forum is rife with fanboys and haters.

 

[Prime Junta]

The mechanics and combat have improved a great deal since 1.0, through balancing and AI changes and the introduction of immunities. In particular the rebalancing of engagement has greatly broadened the range of viable builds and tactics, and the more aggressive AI has made them necessary. It's still rather easy though with PotD the only difficulty that pushes you somewhat, and then only until you outlevel the content.

I just fired up BG2 the other day, and was a bit surprised at how one-dimensional the combat felt compared to post-2.0 Pillars actually.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

Y'all have no idea how shit I am at games.
I only play on "normal" ususally, but still having a hard time every now and then.
With PoE too.

 

[Azrael the cat]

DAO is about on par with Pillars of Eternity. Both are mediocre and pretty trashy. DAI is insufferable poz'd garbage made for trannies and other weirdos.

Agreed, but in the sense that when encoutnering PoE and DAO, one's reaction is 'Wow. This is mediocre and pretty trashy. Fucking awesome, that's way less shit than most of the other stuff out there - I'm going to sink 50 hours into this thing!!!'

 

[Commissar Draco]

When DAO was released it was the least shit of all shit released back then but POE got released when there was many better games around thanks to kickstarter and Renascence. Can't say how bad DAI was as never bothered to even demo it but Twicher 3 nor Skyrim it was not (judging from Comrade RK47 kun playthrou.) I guess as shit as Fallout 4 was.

 

[Roguey]

Why everyone here hates PoE? Is it really a bad game? Or just below exceptions?

Not everyone. It's actually done pretty well here in various polls. There's a sizable bunch of people who really, really, REALLY hate it though and never miss the opportunity to say so. Try it for yourself and make up your own mind.

#4 of the year when you could only pick one (over 30 posters) http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...goty-roleplaying-game-game-of-the-year.106067
#4 and statistically tied with Staglands when you could pick three (over 70 posters) http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...s-quick-and-brutal-2015-rpgoty-survey.105982/
#1 by the greatest amount when it comes to disappointment of the year (over 100 posters) http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...-rpg-release-did-you-dislike-the-most.106196/

 

[Tigranes]

Some people hated poe and celerity'd it and will mention it in random unrelated threads. Others no longer bother to bring it up to attract the crusade. End of story

 

[Morkar Left]

Why everyone here hates PoE? Is it really a bad game? Or just below exceptions?

PoE is outstanding in Art and Music, mediocre in Quests and in its Story and polarizing in its Rules system since it departs from the source. Plus its RTwP which in the old days was enough to declare it shit. The forum is rife with fanboys and haters.

And most of all it's piss-easy which makes all customization pointless and unnecessary. Additionally it strikes me as lazy when little details are missing like guards not reacting to combat and passing through the battlefield as it wouldn't exist. Maybe this points are fixed by now which would be really awesome but I doubt it.

 

[Suicidal]

While PoE undeniably has many flaws it's still a pretty damn good game and people who make claims like "DA:I is better than PoE r00fles":

1. Played PoE for a few hours while clicking through all dialogue without even attempting to understand what's going on
2. Are trolling, because saying shit like this can have the same effect as saying "hey guys did you know Oblivion is actually a better game than Gothic 2"
3. Trying too hard to get some of them KKKs because "holy shit, a lot of people here seem to dislike this PoE game, I better join in so they will like me"
4. Actually really enjoy games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 but will never admit it to not lose face

And no, I've never played DA:I myself. I found the first Dragon Age incredibly boring and mediocre (it started out pretty good but then became really really dull) and only finished it not because I was enjoying myself but because I'm a completionist fuckwit and if all indicators point to DA:I being even somehow worse then I'm not even gonna bother torrenting it.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

While PoE undeniably has many flaws it's still a pretty damn good game and people who make claims like "DA:I is better than PoE r00fles":

1. Played PoE for a few hours while clicking through all dialogue without even attempting to understand what's going on
2. Are trolling, because saying shit like this can have the same effect as saying "hey guys did you know Oblivion is actually a better game than Gothic 2"
3. Trying too hard to get some of them KKKs because "holy shit, a lot of people here seem to dislike this PoE game, I better join in so they will like me"
4. Actually really enjoy games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 but will never admit it to not lose face

 

[Delterius]

While PoE undeniably has many flaws it's still a pretty damn good game

Sounds like you like PoE. That must mean it is good.

 

[prodigydancer]

Plus its RTwP which in the old days was enough to declare it shit.

And it still is. I bet all TB fanboys around here would be praising DA:O and PoE even now if those were TB games.

Face it, dumbfucks: just because you keep calling a game "mediocre shit trash" at every step doesn't make it true.

 

[Prime Junta]

DA:I is mediocre shit trash though

Even so, I had several hours of fun with it before the collect-all-the-shards thing and grindy samey combat finally did me in. It's a shame about the gameplay and the filler content because the environments are rather nicely done, a lot of the main quest isn't bad at all, and several of the NPC's are well written and voice-acted. (Sadly several are so bad they make it hard to notice they're not all like that.)

It's a shame really. It's as if there's a quite a good game in there somewhere that wants to get out, but can't because of the promancers, MMO-heads, and execs who insist on so many hundred hours of gameplay no matter what.

 

[Delterius]

Face it, dumbfucks: just because you keep calling a game "pretty good" at every step doesn't make it true.

I had several hours of fun with it before the collect-all-the-shards thing

I'm sure you loved the Ultimate Reward from collecting all the shards.

 

[prodigydancer]

DA:I is mediocre shit trash though

DA:I was the worst AAA game I've ever seen but OTOH I know people who enjoyed it and I say: good for them. Live and let live. There's nothing wrong with having a strong opinion but the way DA:O and PoE are treated on the Codex certainly doesn't add any credibility to these forums. Ironically, the few people who actually had anything interesting to say about PoE have mostly moved on (even Sensuki).

 

[Delterius]

I also feel that when people disagree with me they lost all credibility.

 

[Prime Junta]

I'm sure you loved the Ultimate Reward from collecting all the shards.

Didn't get that far.

 

[Delterius]

I'm sure you loved the Ultimate Reward from collecting all the shards.

Didn't get that far.

Good thing you didn't. I gave up half way through (I wanted to be thorough but there's a limit) and watched a video on YouTube. It really isn't worth it. All you get is another Rift boss and a super weapon full of DPS numbahs.

 

[Irenaeus III]

I really love PoE!
Irenaeus, Irenaeus II and Irenaeus III should school these faggots!

#LMAO @ people who play Dragon Age. Retards, all of them. I'll just unwatch this thread or I'll have to increase my shame list by the dozen.

 

[hivemind]

But Origins actually is a better game than PoE.

 

[Prime Junta]

Origins has better choice and consequence in its quests, and the dwarf noble origin is rad.

I can't think of anything else in it that I like better than PoE though.

 

[DeepOcean]

I really think PoE is a pretty poorly designed game with misguided design goals, a very underwhelming and repetitive game but that said comparing DA:I with PoE is unfair. PoE is an underwhelming game from a studio that should know better, DA:I is from a studio that I expected shit and it surpassed my expectations dumping a cuthulu monster.

 

[Trashos]

I just fired up BG2 the other day, and was a bit surprised at how one-dimensional the combat felt compared to post-2.0 Pillars actually.

Don't know, man, I wouldn't go that far. Granted, I still haven't done my "Hard" playthrough with PoE, so my opinion is subject to change. But the enounter design does not seem to be on par, which hurts PoE's gameplay quite a bit.

If they make PoE2 at some point with excellent encounter design, I may change my mind. But right now all I can say is that the combat system in BG2 gave all the fun it could possible give, and it won't be easy for PoE to match that.

 

[Irenaeus III]

But Origins actually is a better game than PoE.

kill yourself immediately

 

[hivemind]

Sten is a better written character than anything in PoE.