Arkane Dishonored 2 - Emily and Corvo's Serkonan Vacation

[toro]

Sub-par how? Dishonored was pretty good action adventure game, nothing suggests that Dishonored 2 is any worse

I will admit that it has a certain charm, it brings back things like vertical exploration and the stylized visuals are solid.

But stealth it shit (no real shadows (!?), Blink level design) and the combat is easy - there is no challenge in being the Predator in a world of retarded AIs.

In my opinion, the game has potential but unfortunately it doesn't excel in any department. That's why I don't expect Dishonored 2 to be more than mediocre because I don't think it will break the mold.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Dishonored's game design was oozing with stuff made by ambitious and talented creators that were only held back by shitty console hardware. I expect Dishonored 2 to be less inhibited thanks to more memory and raw power. Arkane definitely got their shit together.

 

[garren]

Arkane can never reach their full potential as long as they're constrained by Bethesda.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Arkane can never reach their full potential as long as they're constrained by Bethesda.

Nobody can ever reach their full potential. That would be a fantasy. But at least Harvey and Raph aren't complete tools that bow down to Bethesda's retardedness unconditionally. They fight for every tiny bit and feature they want to have in their games.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

It's not thief, it'll never be thief. Nothing else matters.

Play Thief 2 again instead of this bowl of shite.

 

[Somberlain]

Just think of all the cocks Harvey needed to suck just in order to get the sequel greenlit.

Dishonored sold really well so I don't know why it would have been hard to get Dishonored 2 greenlit.

 

[Metro]

It's probably a good thing they don't revamp rape Arx Fatalis.

 

[toro]

It's probably a good thing they don't revamp rape Arx Fatalis.

It's just a matter of time.

By the way, anyone knows what is the other project they are working on?

 

[prodigydancer]

Dishonored 2 is going to be a 10/10 GOTY, haters gonna butthurt.

The haters are just a bunch of oldskool Thief fanboys that still cannot get over the fact that Thi4f sucked donkey balls while Dishonored was a great game all around.

P.S. Replaying The Brigmore Witches right now - so much fun.

 

[DawnrazorDCLXVI]

Pardon me, can someone pass me the grey poupon?

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

The haters are just a bunch of oldskool Thief fanboys that still cannot get over the fact that Thi4f sucked donkey balls while Dishonored was a great game all around.

P.S. Replaying The Brigmore Witches right now - so much fun.

Troll Harder.

Dishonored is the creme de la creme of AAA gaming as far as I can tell, but the honest-to-God truth is that it doesn't even come close to the gameplay of Thief 1/2.

 

[Ivan]

It can't inherently satisfy Thief fans because it empowers you too much. I do wish Emily, as opposed to Corvo, were perhaps more tool-reliant, that would be awesome. My mind was blown when I played Thief for the first time in 2014 and learned how to play with rope arrows. Dishonored does have very good movement though. I loved the controls. Blinking is fun. I love watching those crazy combo videos. But no way in hell does it reach the lore, atmosphere, ingenuity of Thief.

But yeah, here's to hoping Emily plays much differently than Corvo. I would love her to feel more human, like Garret, octo-arm notwithstanding.

 

[tormund]

The haters are just a bunch of oldskool Thief fanboys that still cannot get over the fact that Thi4f sucked donkey balls while Dishonored was a great game all around.

P.S. Replaying The Brigmore Witches right now - so much fun.

Weird, I was under impression that Looking Glass fans really like Dishonored.

 

[Abu Antar]

Dishonored did have shadows, did it not? I remember it having them. It's not like you couldn't stand right in front of people in the best stealth game of all time, Thief 2 when there were shadows. I don't know how many times I looked guards in the face that couldn't see me because the area was darker.

Dishonored is no Thief and I don't see them saying that it is. If you guys want thief, go play the new game.

 

[udm]

Dishonored does employ the use of shadows; however, you'd have to take distance into account too. Standing in pitch darkness vs being in a lit area plays a part in your visibility, but you'll still need to be like 20m away in the former to be unnoticeable.

I think what annoyed me more was how unreliable sounds could be. You could shoot an enemy and he'd scream, but it wouldn't register as a sound to other NPCs simply... because. Likewise, a missed crossbow bolt gets more attention than a sword clanging against a wall.

 

[Somberlain]

Dishonored was originally supposed to have "light gem" based stealth like Thief but it was scrapped.

 

[Athos]

Dishonored was originally supposed to have "light gem" based stealth like Thief but it was scrapped.

Exactly. Another leftover is the possibility to snuff candles but as udm said darkness' role in the stealth mechanics was reduced and must be coupled with distance to be effective. Also, Dishonored doesn't want to be Thief 2.0, its main inspiration was clearly Deus Ex.

 

[JarlFrank]

The haters are just a bunch of oldskool Thief fanboys that still cannot get over the fact that Thi4f sucked donkey balls while Dishonored was a great game all around.

P.S. Replaying The Brigmore Witches right now - so much fun.

Actually, most Thief fans prefer Dishonored over Thi4f because it's a good game, while they hate nuThi4f.

 

[prodigydancer]

Dishonored is the creme de la creme of AAA gaming as far as I can tell, but the honest-to-God truth is that it doesn't even come close to the gameplay of Thief 1/2.

Old Thief games had a more complex stealth system, no doubt, but you mistake sheer complexity for superiority. Employing simpler systems does not necessarily mean inferior gameplay or easier experience. With Dishonored it generally boils down to using or not using powers. Because powers are optional and there's a certain gratifications in denying the Outsider and relying on your own faculties.

 

[spekkio]

But you mistake sheer complexity for superiority. Employing simpler systems does not necessarily mean inferior gameplay or easier experience.

Too bad that most of the Dex suffers from this condition (complex = good automagically).

 

[JarlFrank]

Thief wasn't complex by any means, its gameplay systems were simple and elegant.

 

[Declinator]

Dishonored is the creme de la creme of AAA gaming as far as I can tell, but the honest-to-God truth is that it doesn't even come close to the gameplay of Thief 1/2.

Old Thief games had a more complex stealth system, no doubt, but you mistake sheer complexity for superiority. Employing simpler systems does not necessarily mean inferior gameplay or easier experience.

He did not say a single word about complexity being the reason for the superiority of Thief's gameplay...

A pretty gnarly strawman

 

[Raghar]

Dishonored is about assassins, killing people from behind, or front, without leaving trace is important. It would be bad idea to compare it with a pure stealth game.

 

[prodigydancer]

He did not say a single word about complexity being the reason for the superiority of Thief's gameplay...

A pretty gnarly strawman

How is it a strawman? By not going into details he left them to my interpretation.

Dishonored is about assassins, killing people from behind, or front

Except you can beat the game without killing anyone.

 

[JarlFrank]

But Thief isn't any more complex than Dishonored, really, besides its light-and-shadow system.