In Progress Decline 20: Dominions 5: Defenders of the Faith

[Isiloon]

sign me up for new game lol

 

[Matalarata]

Guys... are we going to play this or is everyone jumping on the newgame wagon?

 

[Isiloon]

both... ?

 

[Matalarata]

Then write in the already created new game thread goddammit

Spoiler

Some people are also prone to sudden disappearances, nothing personal mate.

edit: I mean, they suddenly stop playing. It sounded a lot more mafia style than I originally intended

 

[sqeecoo]

Wait, just to be clear, is Atlantis AI? Who is playing it? I didn't quite get the talk about switching raw, Muty etc.

 

[JagreenLern]

Wait, just to be clear, is Atlantis AI? Who is playing it? I didn't quite get the talk about switching raw, Muty etc.

If anyone is still playing Atlantis, they should really stay the fuck out of my dominion and allow me to claim that throne, because I can see their armies, and I'm not impressed.

 

[Dayyālu]

If anyone is still playing Atlantis, they should really stay the fuck out of my dominion and allow me to claim that throne, because I can see their armies, and I'm not impressed.

If you are Atlantis, please call the service 800 - 777 - SCELERIA.

We once won a war with MA Atlantis, we can give you hints.

AHAHAHAHAHA who I'm kidding you are fucked

Raw is still Bandar and Muty is still Atlantis.

 

[Berekän]

 

[Dayyālu]

ILLWINTER

Tbh I see no big problems here. Hey, it's a flat out advantage for most nations.

 

[Muty]

Wait, just to be clear, is Atlantis AI? Who is playing it? I didn't quite get the talk about switching raw, Muty etc.

If anyone is still playing Atlantis, they should really stay the fuck out of my dominion and allow me to claim that throne, because I can see their armies, and I'm not impressed.

If you bothered to send out a scout you would've seen that our capitals are 3 provinces apart. What the fuck do you expect that I'll let you take a province right next to my cap?

 

[Muty]

AHAHAHAHAHA who I'm kidding you are fucked

I was fucked the moment I had to chose a retarded nation.

 

[Dayyālu]

I was fucked the moment I had to chose a retarded nation.

The problem of MA Atlantis has for long eras plagued my mind. The solution I've find is peculiar: MA Atlantis should ignore the vast majority of its UW recruits.

Coastal forts is where it's at. Spam Seers and focus completely on Elemental and Magical spam. Tramplers can be used to expand or in an emergency, but everything else is chaff. The only worthwile recruits are Militia and Reef Dwellers. Priests are sometimes useful, and Kings of the Deep are kinda killy when you reach enough research and have an economy to support them.
Nonetheless, the basics of a somewhat viable MA Atlantis are to spam Coastal forts and pray no one finds you too dangerous until you have everything on line (Elementals, Evocation spam, a critical number of mages and enough chaff).

In this particular game, both Starspawns and Ys could probably walk on MA Atlantis' cap without opposition, if you didn't pick an awake Combat SC (and you SHOULD, MA Atlantis expansion is anemic as it is and its earlygame defenses laughable).

MA Atlantis, and in particular, when you know that you are going against Starspawns, requires planning. Trust me, it can be done.

It's simply ball-bustingly hard. Ys is nearby?

 

[Muty]

Not that I've seen so far.

 

[Agesilaus]

I'd join another game, I don't mind racking up back-to-back wins (cultural peaceful victories, please respect my borders I am harmless).

 

[Muty]

so are we gonna postpone the game until that bug is fixed?

 

[KoolNoodles]

Speaking of staying off turf, Ys what are you doing on dry land? Get back under the waves you heathens.

 

[Dayyālu]

Speaking of staying off turf, Ys what are you doing on dry land? Get back under the waves you heathens.

I'd have loved to write a post about Ys on this map, but they told me a image has the value of thousands of words.

You know that shitty copypasta mondblut has as a signature? It's kind of the stock Ys modus operandi. If he wants to stay on land, good luck at throwing him back. Sea elves, how the fuck they work (in before someone notices they are females for maximum lulz)

 

[mondblut]

Speaking of staying off turf, Ys what are you doing on dry land? Get back under the waves you heathens.

Our Kernou subjects would not agree. Staffing our beach resorts is the only job they have.

 

[mondblut]

It's simply ball-bustingly hard. Ys is nearby?

Ugh, no. Our sophisticated glamour ladies wouldn't step into the waters fishmen and other uglies shit and piss into. We've got our own pond all to ourselves.

 

[mondblut]

I'd have loved to write a post about Ys on this map, but they told me a image has the value of thousands of words.

You know that shitty copypasta mondblut has as a signature? It's kind of the stock Ys modus operandi. If he wants to stay on land, good luck at throwing him back. Sea elves, how the fuck they work (in before someone notices they are females for maximum lulz)

Speaking of images:

They had a rainbow pretender on their side. We had brands, quicken self and mistform. We won.

 

[pakoito]

How many turns are you in? Damn that's a lot of dead people.

 

[Dayyālu]

Ys sacred knights is Illwinter going "Hey Elves are murderous bastards how we can make them worse".

Strategically they are amphibious, fast, and in Dom4 they were the only units that could move more than one sea province if I remember right. They aren't stealthy because that would have been insane.

Tactically they have everything. Stock elven cavalry stats (crazy high defense, good armour, Glamour, high magic resistance). Plus they have that bullshit area attack that is a direct "fuck you you die" because area attacks ignore defense and go straight for the pain). If you build them as efficient sacreds with regen, awe or something else, you need to build specific counters.

That's why I asked if Ys was near Starspawns or Atlantis, because you are both kinda dead in the case. Well, MA Starspawns has ways to deal with Ys, truth be told.

They had a rainbow pretender on their side. We had brands, quicken self and mistform. We won.

Tbh, EA starspawns are almost as bad as MA Atlantis, and that lineup is particularly shitty (1k Polypal Spawns?)

 

[Lizzurd]

Honestly I am pretty surprised of how well you rank Ys. Its sacreds are extremely expensive, and even the smallest raid party will cost as good airport. Their sacreds are impossibly bad under the ways because they lose their fiery breath. Even shark tribe can deal with them underwater.

 

[Dayyālu]

Honestly I am pretty surprised of how well you rank Ys. Its sacreds are extremely expensive, and even the smallest raid party will cost as good airport. Their sacreds are impossibly bad under the ways because they lose their fiery breath. Even shark tribe can deal with them underwater.

What can stop them UW bar massed Starspawn mind blasts (that stop mostly everything, yeah). Once they secure UW they have frankly excellent abovewater capabilities, and they don't need even a shitton of research to make them work.

Compare with MA Atlantis.

 

[Lizzurd]

Compare with MA Atlantis.

Everything is good comparing to MA Atlantis. Even Therodos.