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Game News Cities: Skylines released. Breaks Paradox sales records

Discussion in 'Tacticular News & Content' started by Whisky, Mar 12, 2015.

  1. Whisky The Solution

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  2. thesheeep Arcane

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    Hyvää laatua myy paljon tietokonepelia.
    Bow before my superior* knowledge of the Finnish tongue.

    I'll definitely play this one. Now Maxis should feel extra bad about deliving such crappy Sim Cities in the past. Beaten by a small-medium sized Finnish dev team. Well, if Maxis still existed.

    *Superior in relation to the 99% of the population not knowing Finnish at all.
     
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  3. EG Nullified

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    Looks great.

    How long until Paradox gets sued into the ground?
     
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  4. catfood AGAIN

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    Is it good?
     
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  5. Poos Arcane

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    the buzz is strong in this one
     
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  6. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    It's good, but somewhat on the easy side, the biggest challenge is managing the traffic in larger cities, if traffic fucks up, all your services are worthless.
     
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  7. EG Nullified

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    Aye; very easy to get ahead early on; pretty similar to Sim City 4 in that regard.

    Really do wish the grid remained visible, as setting down something like water pipes evenly requires you to drag them out, find out you're off, release them, and try to hit the mark from memory.

    Kills my 4670k on anything but lowest settings at 1980x. You'll probably want a dedicated graphics card for this.
     
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  8. thesheeep Arcane

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    Dude, you'll want a dedicated graphics card for any game with actual 3D graphics ;)

    [lecture mode]
    But seriously, I am also currently working on a game that displays an absurdly large number of "things" on the screen. That is always hard on any PC, but especially on the GPU. So many meshes with shaders that have to be rendered, so many things that potentially have logic behind them and take away RAM.
    There is a reason why open world games like Minecraft/Realm Explorer/Skyrim, that would actually have a lot of stuff to show, either reduce that stuff to a very close distance and show blank terrain in the distance (Skyrim) or have a very reduced viewing range altogether (Minecraft/etc.). It is not incompetence on the dev side. It is just not something any engine is good at, because it is absurdly hard to do.
    [/lecture mode]
     
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  9. EG Nullified

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    Aye; never bothered to order that longer cable for my old Radeon 5650 when I built the new computer. Up to this game, just the integrated graphics has been doing rather well. Always a bit disappointing to hit a limit. :)
     
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  10. sser Arcane Cuck

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    I'm seeing this game everywhere. Seems like a total hit, leapfrogging over the corpse of Sim City.
     
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  11. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    So its Sim City but by Swedes?
     
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  12. thesheeep Arcane

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    Finns.
    Paradox only acts as the publisher here. Hard to say how much influence they had on the actual development.
     
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  13. Konjad High on potatoes Patron

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    I guess they let the developers mostly do what they want and release the game they want as long as they can later milk with dozens of DLCs :M
     
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  14. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    Bah, my PC can't run this game (20 fps at best). Not sure if bad optimization is to blame, or 2011 Laptop is to blame. Anyway, this game has a 9.0 metacritic user score, looks and feels a lot like what Simcity should have been. Major :incline: all around.
     
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  15. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Does it have dedicated wam a dedicated GPU? If your laptop only has a built-in Intel chip, might as well toss it out of the window for gaming purposes.
     
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  16. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    Nah man, I've a GTX 260M. Perfectly capable of running Crysis at maximum settings. This game, however, was unplayable for me and dumping configs to the bare minimum didn't help (went from 13 to 20 fps).
     
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  17. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    After a quick googling:

    Maybe this'll help.
     
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  18. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    Will try that when I get home. If this solution works I will name you my "favoritest Codex Staffer", a huge honor, mind you.

    I did not attempt to solve my perfomance issues because I thought the game was too new for my old Laptop, so I half expected it not to work. If it's not a hardware issue, but rather just a simple matter of "game refuses to run on Nvidia Card, runs on crappy onboard intel card instead. Beat it with a stick and force it to use the Nvidia one" I will be very, VERY happy.
     
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  19. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    IT WOOOOOOORKEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111


    And I'm not even using the bare minimum specs either. Running things smoothly on medium quality. Also, I've a 670M, not 260M as I stated earlier.

    Thanks a lot man! I will make sure to brofist your posts regularly in 2016. :salute:
     
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  20. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Great - thought that the horrible performance sounded fishy. Incorrect defaulting is a somewhat common issue with laptop GPUs, I think. Have fun!
     
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  21. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    So here's a view of my very first city. So far I have 3 districts: Ground Zero (LD Residential and LD Commercial), Metro Park (HD Residential, HD Commercial and Offices) and Little Detroit (Industry, Power Plants, Garbage).

    I am really loving the game so far. Dealing with trafic is not a brainless exercise of spamming the biggest road you can buy, but rather an exercise of looking for bottlenecks and coming up with solutions. Good stuff. Setting up buss routes is kinda annoying, tho, but I'm sure there's a mod out there to "fix" this. And the subway seem to be REALLY effective.

    At first I was raising taxes left and right, thinking the consequences were rather negligible. And they are...up to a certain point! After reaching the 15% mark, people just started to pack their things and LEAVE. I had to lower taxes BELLOW my former comfort zone to get them to come back. Bottom line: if your taxes are keeping you afloat, don't be a greedy asshole.

    All things considered, the game really IS what the new Simcity SHOULD HAVE BEEN. If anyone is still on the fence about buying this masterpiece, watch this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJb7C2OE9xM

    And, ofc, THIS:

    :takemymoney::takemymoney::takemymoney:
     
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  22. Shannow Waster of Time

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    Did it for you. (Cause Ang is my favourite staffer, too.)
     
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  23. Zarniwoop Destiny Cleanser Patron

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    Only for laptops with that piece of shit scourge on the planet, Optimus. My internal Intel HD Graphix is permanently turned off.

    I might need to try this one, since every other city builder since Simcity 4 has been utter shit.
     
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  24. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    Amen to that.
     
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  25. Whisky The Solution

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    Skylines is great. Game itself is easy, very easy, but the options for designing cities makes it the best successor to Simcity 4. Road elevation options alone make the design potential increase tenfold.
     
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