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Development Info Chris Avellone on the tabletop roots of Van Buren

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Tags: Chris Avellone; Fallout 3 (Van Buren)

Earlier this month, Chris Avellone was a guest at the Practice 2015 conference at NYU. While there, he gave a talk entitled “Paper Cuts: Paper Prototying from OSRPG* to CRPG", where he spoke about the various tabletop-inspired techniques that he used during the preproduction of the original Van Buren Fallout 3 back at Interplay. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like a video of the talk is going to appear anytime soon, but there was a summary of it over at Polygon by a journalist who attended. Here's the gist of it:

Avellone, whose credits include titles like Fallout, Planescape: Torment and Alpha Protocol, spoke at the annual summit on all matters of game design. His talk detailed how his lifelong interest in games like Dungeons and Dragons and other tabletop RPGs played a part in the design of Fallout 3: Van Buren. His hourlong presentation included a plethora of photos, showing off the unique and detailed binders he created to aid the game's designers, elaborating on such facets of the game as character roles, the bestiary and the areas of exploration.

Some of the notable elements Avellone shared included that your protagonist, an accused criminal, traveled with a team of companions whose decisions affected the other inhabitants of the in-game world. While the game did not offer multiplayer, the player's team would begin to see the ramifications of the other team's decision-making, which was controlled by the game's AI, Avellone explained.

For the purposes of his paper playtest, he had two separate teams of six fellow developers serve as the two sets of characters. Avellone would implement the effects of choices made by each group into the other's gameplay session unbeknownst to them. In that sense, the tabletop version of Fallout 3: Van Buren became a tacitly competitive game in which you were actually fighting against another team to prevent or inflict further damage upon your world.

Details like these were not even the most fascinating or intricately developed. The audience was most taken with an idea Avellone described that allowed each player to choose theme music for their character. In the interest of creating a cinematic experience even without the visuals, Avellone's guidebook asked that players choose a unique soundclip which would add a 50 percent stat bonus to any skill.

The theme music was up to the player to choose, but selecting something from the game itself would offer additional advantages.

Because Fallout 3: Van Buren was to be a cinematic and turn-based game, Avellone said, it lent itself well to the pen and paper format. Cutscenes in the game were largely presented like slides, anyway, meaning they were easy to translate to the book format. Because gameplay was more strategic than about quick action, the patience required of a lengthy sit-down game session also made sense as a playtest method.

Although the project was ultimately canceled, Avellone was able to carry over some of his ideas to a later game: Fallout: New Vegas, which he worked on with Obsidian Entertainment. He was able to salvage his enormous binder of non-playable characters created for the Van Buren prototyping for use in the later game, as well as re-use some of the areas designed for Van Buren's Boulder, Colo. setting — all of which, he noted, were created in the pen and paper format first.
Interesting. Perhaps these ideas may yet make their way into a game someday. Who knows, it might even be called Van Buren.
 

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Interesting that Chris would choose to do a presentation of old ideas about Van Buren. Especially interesting considering Fargo just trademarked the name.

Basically confirms that he and others are working to make a game similar to that! New cRPG post-apoc Van Buren, Fargo/Avellone game confirmed for 2018
 

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Interesting that Chris would choose to do a presentation of old ideas about Van Buren.
Basically confirms that he and others are working to make a game similar to that!

He's not going to present ideas that he'd use in an upcoming game, so it's quite the contrary. It means he's not currently working on anything Van Buren related and there aren't any plans for it at the moment (despite the trademark), or at least his involvement isn't confirmed yet (he'll be a stretch goal).
 

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For the purposes of his paper playtest, he had two separate teams of six fellow developers serve as the two sets of characters.
Safe to say he lead the whole thing.
In that sense, the tabletop version of Fallout 3: Van Buren became a tacitly competitive game in which you were actually fighting against another team to prevent or inflict further damage upon your world.
Give the man money to make the game!
Details like these were not even the most fascinating or intricately developed.
No, seriously give him the money AND the whole freedom he needs!
Perhaps these ideas may yet make their way into a game someday pretty soon
sounds much better now
 

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About Practice 2015
-Introduction from the host is too long
-9:21 min hilarious. The pic describes so perfect RPG Codex!
-13:00 min shows how nice Mr. Ave is (and he truly is!)
-16:37 min read my last post in this thread and you´ll get what I mean
-22:43 min the gamefeatures and more cool stuff
-36:57 min Questions
 

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Watched half of it. The only curios thing worth mentioning so far is that while working on Van Buren (he was the only person assigned to it for 2 years), he basically made the game on paper and let 12 volunteers play with him on their off time. So 12 people in the entire world actually experienced Van Buren, just as a pen and paper game, but GMed by Avellona himself. Some people are luckier than others...
 

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So 12 people in the entire world actually experienced Van Buren, just as a pen and paper game, but GMed by Avellona himself. Some people are luckier than others...

One of them was Josh Sawyer!
 

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