Butthurt gamer blog

[thedeadlymoose]

Yeah, never take anyone seriously who moderates their comments. Especially for "trolls".

Give me at least a little credit. (As much as you're willing to give for a faggot who needs to be smothered with a pillow.)

Whichever one of you posted on my blog either decided it would be awesome to post an identical comment six times total to the same post, or Blogger fucked up, in which case, mea culpa. I think that's a damn good reason to assume troll, especially since at the time I didn't realize I'd been linked here, and assumed the user in question wasn't actually going to come back, just "poop and leave". Usually I'm happy to engage people who disagree with me, including trolls. Just ask Hiver, who for some reason thought I was "stalking" him on Uservoice.

I've re-posted all the dude's comments, unedited, just in case.

probably drog/bryce/chefe.

I'm not any of those people, or Roguey, and have never posted on Codex before, only lurked. Basically, Commissar Draco is right. I'm hardly the only one with these opinions, whether you like my opinions or not.

Beyond that, I don't think you made this thread to debate with me, so I'll leave the rest alone.

NO WAIT. One of you did ask me an actual question. HELLO TULUSE. YOU HAVE ENCOURAGED ME, I AM NOW ENCOURAGED.

Do you actually think Bioware games give a good representation of gay people? It seems to me it depicts them as individuals with psychological issues which can be easily exploited to get them into bed. To be fair, I think they depict straight people the same way, but I wouldn't call either one progressive.

"Between you, me, and the Internet?" I agree with you to some extent. (I think straight-girl Jack was the worst in ME2. Just... God.) I just think that letting queer people exist, even in ... iffy portrayals ... is better than not letting queer people exist at all, when the setting would otherwise realistically have them.

That's where the whole "I want to support Bioware extra now" thing came from (I didn't clarify because until now that was a purely personal blog). Because their people actually acknowledge the existence of queer people. I'll take what I can fucking get, man, I really will.

 

[Corporate_Jew_Master]

All this is doing is tempting me to try to pre-order Dragon Age 3 (or get it shortly after launch) depending on available funds, which til now I'd only done with Skyrim[/QUOTE]

It also makes me want to get Dragon Age 1 & 2 for PS3 despite already having them for PC.

And it's making me a pretty big fan of Gaider & Bioware. I already enjoyed their stuff, even though their games do have flaws that I could go into. But all this undeserved hate JUST for allowing queer people to exist and *gasp* letting you romance them just makes me want to fanboy at them forever.

Slowly, gingerly, Jake slids the LIBRUL knife beneath the defenceless throat of the rpg genre and pulls, watching as the once proud being convulses and loses control of it's bodily functions, shitting all over itself as it breathes it's last.

Why, Jake? Why would you defecate all over our favourite games by supporting the casualisation of the genre

 

[Western]

You're in a Walmart, walking along in the XBAWKS aisle, when all of a sudden you look down and see a CRPG, Jake. It's crawling toward you. You reach down and you flip the CRPG over on its back, Jake.

The CRPG lies on it's back, it belly baking in the popamole lights, it's beating it's legs trying to turn itself over but it can't, not without your help... but you're not helping, why is that Jake?

 

[RK47]

Cause nobody really needs RPGs in their lives. They just need oxygen, food, drink, and money.

 

[Lorica]

"Between you, me, and the Internet?" I agree with you to some extent. (I think straight-girl Jack was the worst in ME2. Just... God.) I just think that letting queer people exist, even in ... iffy portrayals ... is better than not letting queer people exist at all, when the setting would otherwise realistically have them.

That's where the whole "I want to support Bioware extra now" thing came from (I didn't clarify because until now that was a purely personal blog). Because their people actually acknowledge the existence of queer people. I'll take what I can fucking get, man, I really will.

I mean, demand gay games, don't support games without gays that you think should, go whine on Borderhouse, whatever you think is appropriate, but this "I'll take what I can get" attitude just makes you complicit in the exploitation of a minority group for the purposes of fleecing the group and its supporters and you should know that.

Most importantly, why does it matter when an e-man sticks his e-penis? Unless it's a hentai game, I do not give a fuck.



Note: I choose gay guys, but I mean it generally. Gay just feels... so right.

 

[RK47]

ok

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

Yeah, never take anyone seriously who moderates their comments. Especially for "trolls".

Give me at least a little credit. (As much as you're willing to give for a faggot who needs to be smothered with a pillow.)

Whichever one of you posted on my blog either decided it would be awesome to post an identical comment six times total to the same post, or Blogger fucked up, in which case, mea culpa. I think that's a damn good reason to assume troll, especially since at the time I didn't realize I'd been linked here, and assumed the user in question wasn't actually going to come back, just "poop and leave". Usually I'm happy to engage people who disagree with me, including trolls. Just ask Hiver, who for some reason thought I was "stalking" him on Uservoice.

I've re-posted all the dude's comments, unedited, just in case.

probably drog/bryce/chefe.

I'm not any of those people, or Roguey, and have never posted on Codex before, only lurked. Basically, Commissar Draco is right. I'm hardly the only one with these opinions, whether you like my opinions or not.

Beyond that, I don't think you made this thread to debate with me, so I'll leave the rest alone.

NO WAIT. One of you did ask me an actual question. HELLO TULUSE. YOU HAVE ENCOURAGED ME, I AM NOW ENCOURAGED.

Do you actually think Bioware games give a good representation of gay people? It seems to me it depicts them as individuals with psychological issues which can be easily exploited to get them into bed. To be fair, I think they depict straight people the same way, but I wouldn't call either one progressive.

"Between you, me, and the Internet?" I agree with you to some extent. (I think straight-girl Jack was the worst in ME2. Just... God.) I just think that letting queer people exist, even in ... iffy portrayals ... is better than not letting queer people exist at all, when the setting would otherwise realistically have them.

That's where the whole "I want to support Bioware extra now" thing came from (I didn't clarify because until now that was a purely personal blog). Because their people actually acknowledge the existence of queer people. I'll take what I can fucking get, man, I really will.

thedeadlymoose, you can love somebody deep inside your heart and it doesn't matter who they are. If a lot of people love each other, the whirl will be a better place to live. heteros, homos, and trannies should all fight for the greater good and support a potentially good game, haaai?

 

[Data4]

See, the way I see it, a person like Jaesun is a gay dude I could have a drink with. I mean, after the drink, I'd be like "Well, I have to head home", and he'd be all "Cool. Think I'm gonna go suck someone's dick.", and then I'd be all "Cool, man. Take it easy."

But this moose guy? Just some faggot.

 

[Jaesun]

Adding gay people to a game JUST for the sake of adding Gay people to a game is absolute shit game design (see BioWare games).

 

[Infinitron]

From a recent Steam convo:

15:24 - Infinitron: here's a secret
15:24 - Infinitron: people don't really care how sexist the game is as long as the writing is good
15:25 - Infinitron: roguey's idol lesifoere likes the witcher(!)
15:25 - Infinitron: and ps:t of course is a story about a muscular immortal super-alpha male who attracts broken women to him despite being an ugly abusive bastard
15:26 - Infinitron: really, all this talk about sexism, it's just a proxy argument for "we want better writing!"
15:26 - Infinitron: I guess just asking for better writers would be elitist or something

 

[FeelTheRads]

Because their people actually acknowledge the existence of queer people. I'll take what I can fucking get, man, I really will.

But why do you need this acknowledgement? Serious question, really. I don't know, most settings would "realistically" have homosexuality (and other things too, if you're gonna go for the "it's realistic so it should be in" approach), but is it necessary? Or really, any kind of references to sexuality, be them hetero or otherwise? Are they needed to create a good setting? How come we were just fine without any "this guy is straight, this guy is not" in videogames until after Bioware made it popular?
You're really putting way too much importance on these issues and that's why you get people hating you. Your comment of "I'll take what I can get" only reinforces that and it's in the same vein as the "this is not an RPG if it doesn't have multisexual romances" claims I've seen.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

thedeadlymoose, you can love somebody deep inside your heart and it doesn't matter who they are. If a lot of people love each other, the whirl will be a better place to live. heteros, homos, and trannies should all fight for the greater good and support a potentially good game, haaai?

why you must always do this psychological stuff. You're tearing me apart

 

[tuluse]

Infinitron, the same is true in reverse. People don't care if gays or bisexuals or trannies are in something if the writing is good. Fallout 2 has bi-sexual characters. New Vegas has gays and bi-sexuals. The Codex loves these games by and large.

"Between you, me, and the Internet?" I agree with you to some extent. (I think straight-girl Jack was the worst in ME2. Just... God.) I just think that letting queer people exist, even in ... iffy portrayals ... is better than not letting queer people exist at all, when the setting would otherwise realistically have them.

That's where the whole "I want to support Bioware extra now" thing came from (I didn't clarify because until now that was a purely personal blog). Because their people actually acknowledge the existence of queer people. I'll take what I can fucking get, man, I really will.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I will note that Bioware is not the only company including gay characters. There is even another RPG company which is doing it. They don't toot their own horn about it so loudly. They also feature better writing, rpg mechanics, and generally are just better at everything except bug fixing. I suggest if you want to fanboy an RPG company which includes gay and bi-sexual characters in their games you switch to Obsidian.

 

[Lancehead]

From a recent Steam convo:

15:26 - Infinitron: really, all this talk about sexism, it's just a proxy argument for "we want better writing!"

Exactly how I feel. Or at least how I feel the issues regarding character portrayals in games should be addressed, instead of trying to make videogames meet some standards of social justice.

 

[AngryEddy]

From a recent Steam convo:

15:24 - Infinitron: here's a secret
15:24 - Infinitron: people don't really care how sexist the game is as long as the writing is good
15:25 - Infinitron: roguey's idol lesifoere likes the witcher(!)
15:25 - Infinitron: and ps:t of course is a story about a muscular immortal super-alpha male who attracts broken women to him despite being an ugly abusive bastard
15:26 - Infinitron: really, all this talk about sexism, it's just a proxy argument for "we want better writing!"
15:26 - Infinitron: I guess just asking for better writers would be elitist or something

You are so wrong. Believe it or not, there is a significant amount of gamers who will squeal and squirm if you have a video game that has negative events happening to women/gays, who couldn't give 2 shits if you wrote a good story or not. These people care about politics, THATS IT.

 

[Infinitron]

You are so wrong. Believe it or not, there is a significant amount of gamers who will squeal and squirm if you have a video game that has negative events happening to women, who couldn't give 2 shits if you wrote a good story or not. These people care about politics, THATS IT.

Sure, there are some. But most of them are actually too stupid to notice it if the writing is good enough. Go and ask some of those people if PS:T has chauvinistic elements like what I described. Even if they acknowledge it, they won't care, because it's "mature", "fresh" and "thoughtful".

 

[dnf]

From a recent Steam convo:

15:26 - Infinitron: really, all this talk about sexism, it's just a proxy argument for "we want better writing!"

Exactly how I feel. Or at least how I feel the issues regarding character portrayals in games should be addressed, instead of trying to make videogames meet some standards of social justice.

Really? Witcher gets slammed because of his sexism, while Bioware games gets praise with his terrible writing because faggots.

 

[dnf]

You are so wrong. Believe it or not, there is a significant amount of gamers who will squeal and squirm if you have a video game that has negative events happening to women, who couldn't give 2 shits if you wrote a good story or not. These people care about politics, THATS IT.

Sure, there are some. But most of them are actually too stupid to notice it if the writing is good enough. Go and ask some of those people if PS:T has chauvinistic elements like what I described. Even if they acknowledge it, they won't care, because it's "mature", "fresh" and "thoughtful".

Roguey.

 

[AngryEddy]

From a recent Steam convo:

15:26 - Infinitron: really, all this talk about sexism, it's just a proxy argument for "we want better writing!"

Exactly how I feel. Or at least how I feel the issues regarding character portrayals in games should be addressed, instead of trying to make videogames meet some standards of social justice.

Really? Witcher gets slammed because of his sexism, while Bioware games gets praise with his terrible writing because faggots.

Thank you. This is a PERFECT example of what I said earlier. Witcher was attacked by faggot gamers all over because it wasn't left-wing enough and it showed women outside of the feminist utopian fantasy.

 

[Lancehead]

From a recent Steam convo:

15:26 - Infinitron: really, all this talk about sexism, it's just a proxy argument for "we want better writing!"

Exactly how I feel. Or at least how I feel the issues regarding character portrayals in games should be addressed, instead of trying to make videogames meet some standards of social justice.

Really? Witcher gets slammed because of his sexism, while Bioware games gets praise with his terrible writing because faggots.

Like I said, good writing is how it should be addressed/judged, at least.

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

From a recent Steam convo:

15:24 - Infinitron: here's a secret
15:24 - Infinitron: people don't really care how sexist the game is as long as the writing is good
15:25 - Infinitron: roguey's idol lesifoere likes the witcher(!)
15:25 - Infinitron: and ps:t of course is a story about a muscular immortal super-alpha male who attracts broken women to him despite being an ugly abusive bastard
15:26 - Infinitron: really, all this talk about sexism, it's just a proxy argument for "we want better writing!"
15:26 - Infinitron: I guess just asking for better writers would be elitist or something

You are so wrong. Believe it or not, there is a significant amount of gamers who will squeal and squirm if you have a video game that has negative events happening to women/gays, who couldn't give 2 shits if you wrote a good story or not. These people care about politics, THATS IT.

plenty of biodrones said they refuse to play the witcher because "it doesn't recognize that female gamers exist" or some such nonsense. womyn and man-feminists cannot into good writing to begin with.

 

[dnf]

Yup, they outright ignore the stwong female chars just because there is some sex cards, or big boobs in TW2

 

[Blaine]

Thank you. This is a PERFECT example of what I said earlier. Witcher was attacked by faggot gamers all over because it wasn't left-wing enough and it showed women outside of the feminist utopian fantasy.

Can you imagine the apoplexies these people would have if they were to read any of Robert Howard's Conan stories?

 

[Drakron]

... New Vegas has gays and bi-sexuals ...

They werent the focus, or rather their sexuality wasnt their focus.

And that is why we talk about how they got it right, Veronica entire character was based on something besides she was a lesbian and the fact she was was simply part of the character that was brought up about two or three times without being that relevant, it could have been written out or replaced and would not change the character.

It also helped neither of them were "romantic options", sure there were other characters that were gay or bi but really ... compare New Vegas with BioWarian dating sim.

Having token gay for the sake of it ... that is wrong.

 

[Cromwell]

"Between you, me, and the Internet?" I agree with you to some extent. (I think straight-girl Jack was the worst in ME2. Just... God.) .

You talk shit about my waifu again boy and you're in for some ass kickin!