Bros, I am enjoying Lionheart.

[Surf Solar]

It uses, as everyone knows, the SPECIAL system. I rolled some battlemage build with slight speech abilities build. I was a bit worried when I read threads about it here, but then I grinded a bit, read some dialogues in Barcelona solved most of the shit throgh speech skill, put some monsters and wolves to death in the woods etc.

Why exactly is this game said to be so mediocre? I have read all the (4 page with small text - which is a lot for these days) lore and it seems to be decent for me and that is coming from someone who does not give a shit about history.

When exactly does the game turn into shit ? I have at this point made myself aquainted with all the factions and am level 9, forgive me to say , but its fun. The art direction is very nice, I enjoy that the area outside my FoV is turned black/white, that I can solve most of the battles in a few seconds, etc. Sure, most of the dialogue is not very advanced, but it delivers what I expect to see when I have a speech skill higher than the usual moron. 2 quests actually got me killed by following popamole straightforward "tactics".

So, when is this game turning into shit? Becuase I thin at this point, it's really fun.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Barcelona

at this point, it's really fun.

from what I hear of the game
you will be needing my pre-emptive condolences within a few hours after leaving that area

 

[evdk]

It uses, as everyone knows, the SPECIAL system. I rolled some battlemage build with slight speech abilities build. I was a bit worried when I read threads about it here, but then I grinded a bit, read some dialogues in Barcelona solved most of the shit throgh speech skill, put some monsters and wolves to death in the woods etc.

Why exactly is this game said to be so mediocre? I have read all the (4 page with small text - which is a lot for these days) lore and it seems to be decent for me and that is coming from someone who does not give a shit about history.

When exactly does the game turn into shit ? I have at this point made myself aquainted with all the factions and am level 9, forgive me to say , but its fun. The art direction is very nice, I enjoy that the area outside my FoV is turned black/white, that I can solve most of the battles in a few seconds, etc. Sure, most of the dialogue is not very advanced, but it delivers what I expect to see when I have a speech skill higher than the usual moron. 2 quests actually got me killed by following popamole straightforward "tactics".

So, when is this game turning into shit? Becuase I thin at this point, it's really fun.

Where the beginning of the game is indeed somewhat good. There are quests, factions and you can actually survive without optimized combat build. When you leave Barcelona though, the shit hits the proverbial fan. Prepare for a badly done Diablo rip off with an engine and stat system that do not allow for it. I rage quited a short while after leaving the city, but maybe you'll have a different experience. I wouldn't bet on it though.

 

[Shadenuat]

If I remember correctly, Barcelona is the best part of the game. After that, game turns into "finishing line", like mutant base in Fallout, Fortress of Regrets in Planescape, or, which is more close to the matter, the last desert-and-evil-lair run in Divine Divinity I.

 

[Bitcher1]

There's one more city in the game with some quests which don't simply equate to slashing your way through. After that maybe one or two interesting NPCs and that's really it. The rest is a tiresome grind with crappy combat system and lazily designed areas and encounters. You can use persuasion with some bosses but putting enough points in it to be useful will gimp your char substantially so what's the point of that?
I should know, I've finished it. I'm a sucker for crappy RPGs. (also finished The Fall which I actually consider quite fun and got really far into Descent of Undermountain)

 

[Surf Solar]

It uses, as everyone knows, the SPECIAL system. I rolled some battlemage build with slight speech abilities build. I was a bit worried when I read threads about it here, but then I grinded a bit, read some dialogues in Barcelona solved most of the shit throgh speech skill, put some monsters and wolves to death in the woods etc.

Why exactly is this game said to be so mediocre? I have read all the (4 page with small text - which is a lot for these days) lore and it seems to be decent for me and that is coming from someone who does not give a shit about history.

When exactly does the game turn into shit ? I have at this point made myself aquainted with all the factions and am level 9, forgive me to say , but its fun. The art direction is very nice, I enjoy that the area outside my FoV is turned black/white, that I can solve most of the battles in a few seconds, etc. Sure, most of the dialogue is not very advanced, but it delivers what I expect to see when I have a speech skill higher than the usual moron. 2 quests actually got me killed by following popamole straightforward "tactics".

So, when is this game turning into shit? Becuase I thin at this point, it's really fun.

Where the beginning of the game is indeed somewhat good. There are quests, factions and you can actually survive without optimized combat build. When you leave Barcelona though, the shit hits the proverbial fan. Prepare for a badly done Diablo rip off with an engine and stat system that do not allow for it. I rage quited a short while after leaving the city, but maybe you'll have a different experience. I wouldn't bet on it though.

OMG, is it really so bad? Why does it even show the BI logo at the start? I am really liking the game somehow and I dont want to have it turn into shit.

 

[SuicideBunny]

OMG, is it really so bad? Why does it even show the BI logo at the start? I am really liking the game somehow and I dont want to have it turn into shit.

it's actually worse because you see that the maps were intended for more than just filler combat and remain unused because they ran out of muniez.

 

[laclongquan]

Barcelona is only part of the game fully finished. Everything else is rushed. Lack of funding detected!

 

[Roguey]

If I remember correctly, Barcelona is the best part of the game. After that, game turns into "finishing line", like mutant base in Fallout, Fortress of Regrets in Planescape, or, which is more close to the matter, the last desert-and-evil-lair run in Divine Divinity I.

The mutant base in Fallout was fine, there's plenty of skill use opportunities and you can avoid combat entirely with robes.

 

[commie]

Kickstarter to finish Lionheart...

 

[RK47]

I finished it. Twice. It was quite interesting to figure out which skills work and which doesn't. Kinda like AoD.

 

[Daemongar]

I should know, I've finished it. I'm a sucker for crappy RPGs. (also finished The Fall which I actually consider quite fun and got really far into Descent of Undermountain)

Yeah, well I finished Descent to Undermountain (a couple times) and it was 5x the game Lionheart was. I think I blocked out of my brain the final couple of hours, Lionheart was so bad.Think I lost my sanity about the time you meet the spectre of Joan of Arc (or something.) For some reason, that stands out.

Wonder if someone could buy the rights to Lionheart, finish up the GUI, cut the game in half, put it on Steam for $5. Then, with any additional funds brought it, add more content on. That game could have been something special, that is what lead to the bitterness.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Perhaps Obsidian can get the lionheart license for a song

Or shit, just clone it. That setting has potential.

Also Surf Solar get back here and tell us of your pain

 

[Menckenstein]

RIP Surf Solar

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Maybe he's busy with a second playthrough

 

[RK47]

It's fun for fuck sake. Just because you're too casual for it doesn't mean it sucks. Gtfo casuals.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

It's fun for fuck sake. Just because you're too casual for it doesn't mean it sucks. Gtfo casuals.

 

[RK47]

Better than dungeon siege.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

You're looking very kawaii Miku47.

 

[RK47]

:p u shd buy me games then, cow-kun.

 

[Snufkin]

This game became a dungeon crawl fest after a while, but I don't regret finishing it. After all it was nice challange, ending area was hard even for my power gamer char. I think armor class is very important, with high ac and evasion skill you won't get hit much.

 

[RK47]

I remember one armor healed me when i was hit from range. That was pretty moment for me since archers actually HEALED me.

 

[Twinkle]

Huh, RK-kun, I see you are not FOREVERALONE anymore.

 

[RK47]

*holds on to Snufkin tightly*

You can't have him! He's mine!

 

[laclongquan]

When Black Cat goes away, our resident Nip fans go full otaku.

Derp!