Bloodlines remake gets a Cease & Desist from CCP

[garren]

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/goodnight-sweet-prince/

Didn't find a better topic to post this but.. fuck CCP.

 

[Rahdulan]

I honestly expected Activision would pull something like that rather than CCP. Fucking hell.

 

[set]

What the fuck CCP.

This should get its own sticky.

I thought they had some brains, guess I was wrong. They don't get the importance of a community project -- at all.

 

[throwaway]

Aside from the nonsensical they had to do this to keep hold of the IP why would CCP bother with this?

 

[set]

Aside from the nonsensical they had to do this to keep hold of the IP why would CCP bother with this?

The only "reasonable" excuse is they are planning to release a "remastered" version of the old game in the near future. I don't think they're doing this, since Activision holds rights to it.

I also don't understand why the creators are bound to CCP's request - it's the goddamn internet. Do what you have to do to keep yourself legally protected, but you don't need to go above and beyond. Privately release the source code at the very least. CCP does not deserve anybody's respect after this.

 

[Infinitron]

Aside from the nonsensical they had to do this to keep hold of the IP why would CCP bother with this?

The only "reasonable" excuse is they are planning to release a "remastered" version of the old game in the near future. I don't think they're doing this, since Activision holds rights to it.

I also don't understand why the creators are bound to CCP's request - it's the goddamn internet. Do what you have to do to keep yourself legally protected, but you don't need to go above and beyond. Privately release the source code at the very least. CCP does not deserve anybody's respect after this.

I do wish more unofficial remake teams used the "Black Ops" method of development. Work on the game privately, and release it when it's done as a de facto accomplishment. That's how the NewDark patch for Thief and SS2 was made.

It's not always that simple though, since they often need some publicity to attract talent and testers.

 

[Irenaeus]

What a sad state of affairs.

 

[Crooked Bee]

Huh, I thought non-commercial fan projects didn't need approval from the publisher/developer.

In before hexer receives a C&D email from Bethesda.

 

[supervoid]

Huh, I thought non-commercial fan projects didn't need approval from the publisher/developer.

In before hexer receives a C&D email from Bethesda.

Anything (except satire, reviews and citation-like stuff) that include touching copyrighted content is illegal without written approval from owner: (I'm using art as example but it applies to other types of projects) selling any fanarts is straight illegal and can end in the court, but also drawing these fanarts and showing it on internet is almost in every case illegal and can cause C&D (but nobody cares usually, also it would be bad for copyright holder's PR, ex. Blizzard approves fanarts, because it will cost them more to lost fans because of lawsuits than they lose due to copyright violations by fans). Mods made in official tools are obviously legal and nobody need to ask for approval, in other cases it is only good will of publisher. IMO hexer is on the way to receiving C&D because he is writing from time to time about evidently illegal & rather stupid stuff like crowdfunding or paing his slaves team monies for work. Somebody should explain this to him maybe?

 

[VioletShadow]

I'm so disappointed. Are these CCP people idiots? I don't get it. What do they gain by doing this?

 

[tuluse]

Anything (except satire, reviews and citation-like stuff) that include touching copyrighted content is illegal without written approval from owner: (I'm using art as example but it applies to other types of projects) selling any fanarts is straight illegal and can end in the court, but also drawing these fanarts and showing it on internet is almost in every case illegal and can cause C&D (but nobody cares usually, also it would be bad for copyright holder's PR, ex. Blizzard approves fanarts, because it will cost them more to lost fans because of lawsuits than they lose due to copyright violations by fans). Mods made in official tools are obviously legal and nobody need to ask for approval, in other cases it is only good will of publisher. IMO hexer is on the way to receiving C&D because he is writing from time to time about evidently illegal & rather stupid stuff like crowdfunding or paing his slaves team monies for work. Somebody should explain this to him maybe?

Two things:

1) You're forgetting fair use.

2) If they didn't include actual art portion, but it was just an empty game and used the original vtmb assets they should be fine.

 

[dryan]

DEATH TO CCP !!!

 

[Durwyn]

What a bunch of fucking dicks. They axed one and only MMO that I would be interested in, then this. Even Bethesda learned their lesson and let DaggerfallXL and Skywind live, even though the former seems to be abandoned for now and the latter is just an overambitious daydream.

 

[J_C]

Bloodlines doesn't need a remake. Good riddance.

 

[ASTRAL]

We should contact some Volcano deity asap

Bloodlines doesn't need a remake. Good riddance.

its was more of a port to a better engine

 

[J_C]

We should contact some Volcano deity asap

Bloodlines doesn't need a remake. Good riddance.

its was more of a port to a better engine

Meh, I had no problems with the source engine.

 

[I'm Big Into Anal]

if they didnt ask for permission to use copyrighted anything then fair enough i guess, a bit of manners goes a long way

 

[ASTRAL]

Meh, I had no problems with the source engine.

Better engine = better modding

 

[Luzur]

What a bunch of fucking dicks. They axed one and only MMO that I would be interested in, then this. Even Bethesda learned their lesson and let DaggerfallXL and Skywind live, even though the former seems to be abandoned for now and the latter is just an overambitious daydream.

according from some source on IRC from 20th November Lucius is still coding away on DaggerXL.

 

[Jaesun]

Bloodlines doesn't need a remake.

I agree, as in porting Bloodlines to the latest Source engine would be "neat", it isn't really necessary.

 

[Average Manatee]

Up-porting Bloodlines seemed to me like the kind of fun little project if you were a kid with time on your hands to mess with stuff, but it's useless practically speaking.

 

[Perkel]

Meh, I had no problems with the source engine.

Better engine = better modding

Why do you want to mod Bloodlines ? Seems pointless considering combat was shit and people love Bloodline mainly due to atmosphere and story content.

 

[Jason Liang]

All CCP has done since buying out White Wolf was kill WoD. Why did they even bother?

 

[Crooked Bee]

I think the point here is not whether this particular remake was worthwhile or not - I agree that it was pretty pointless - but rather, publishers sending C&Ds to non-commercial fan projects that wouldn't have done them or anyone any harm.

 

[Bester]

What if they continue working on it, but don't acknowledge it and don't talk about it? Then they release their thing on torrents when it's done. What's the problem here?