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Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Jaesun, Mar 15, 2011.

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    Shadow Scythe = possible Codex spy?

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    Shadow Scythe = Eric Schwartz = Sea ? I'm just guessing here.
     
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    :lol: I must have missed that. I think he/she edited it in later. Must have finally flipped over everything that was said.

    I've seen them post Sea's articles before in different threads though they don't take credit for it..it's a possibility.
     
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    OH HEY I DECIDE WHETHER DOOMGUY SHOOTS FIRST AT THE IMPS OR THE CACODAEMON. You choose how to react to events in every fucking game. And in every game where you are manifested in the gameworld as an avatar or a party of avatars, you choose how your "character(s)" (ie: you) react to events.
     
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    = Wizardry!
     
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    Could also be "Wizardry", from RPS. Somehow I get the feeling that using different aliases on different forums is his MO... :M

    EDIT: Nice try, MMXI!
     
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    It's interesting how these biodrones have completely internalized the separation that modern Bioware games have placed between the 'fighting' bits and the 'talking' bits. They realize, probably subconsciously, that the fighting bits are just filler that doesn't matter, to the point where they don't probably don't think of them as part of the 'real' game at all. For them, going through combats is just a mechanical thing you have to do, like having to go to a menu and click 'Load Game' to load a game.
    And since only the conversation scenes are the 'real' game, that line of reasoning would probably be utterly weird to them. Combat isn't 'events', it's just a...uh....thing!

    In short, as we say in these parts, they don't even know what they don't know.
     
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  8. MMXI Prestigious Gentleman Magister

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    :what:

    How did I miss this? No, not the Colonization stuff, but the RPG shit we've been talking about.

    Interesting. So basically if he likes a game then he's fine with it being an RPG even if it isn't? Derp.

    Rule-less RPGs? What do you buy? An empty set of books? Where are the Wikipedia entries for all these different rule-less systems? In fact, what differentiates all these rule-less systems? Derp.

    If his character had only a single skill check during the course of the entire game, did most of his character's statistics even matter? He's basically saying that all forms of role-playing are RPGs. Derp.

    Don't know what to say other than I pity this guy. Also, mondblut will fume at this post if he ever sees it. At least Wizardry points out that if it is a sub-genre of any of those then strategy would be the most fitting. Derp.

    What? Roguelikes don't contain enough RPG elements to be considered RPGs yet Mass Effect does? Derp.

    Ah. The age old "RPGs would be better without stats" argument. I wonder what this guy was saying in 1974 after reading about D&D. "This is really awesome, but imagine if I could play D&D without the D&D! It'd be like actual role-playing! Thanks Gygax!" Derp.

    So a game with character development/customisation that allows you to play the game in different ways based on how you've defined them isn't an RPG, yet a "game" that is merely computerised role-playing is an RPG? So I guess to this cunt Sleep is Death is a better RPG than D&D because it doesn't have stats. Derp.

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    look why are you still denying the whole you being Wizardry thing we do not have a "look but don't touch" rule like gay forums
     
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    But why would Wizardry post on here when he's got the fabulous Rock Paper Shotgun all to himself?
     
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    Oh wow that thread is getting pretty heated now. ShadowScythe/Sea continues to fight the good fight :salute:. I might wait and see how this resolves before I post the lulz.
     
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    I know it's old as shit, but...



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    Ok I don't think the thread's going anywhere now. It seems to have died down.

    Let's see the stupid shit people say:


    Character building is a stupid and archaic system. It's all about fucking as many companions as you can guys! This is true roleplaying.

    ShadowScythe responds with some further explanation (and continues to put down Mass Effect) and gets told this:


    Does anyone even fucking know what roleplaying is guys?


    Anyway, the original genius (I believe his name is Tiamatty) returns for more:

    ROLEPLAYING! :x

    At this point even ShadowScythe is raging over all this talk of roleplaying:

    :salute:

    Dear god...Biodrones don't even care that the Mass Effects don't even have real choices as long as they have the illusion of choice. So basically fake choices = RPG?

    Also fuck all those old games, stupid shit, why were they even called RPGs? There was no fake dialogue options!

    A little bit unrelated but Tiamatty responds to someone else's post with this gem:

    ...God I really hate Bioware right now.

    :lol: Poor guy's gone insane.

    After a while the thread starts to die out with petty infighting over some other crap instead but ShadowScythe says one last thing that I found funny:

    Sounds fine to me too. Interactive Drama it is.

    There's plenty more derpy shit in that thread but most of it is unrelated and is the usual Biodrone nonsense of claiming story as far more relevant and gameplay & stats are archaic and stupid.
     
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    No wait...fuck it there's a few more:

    Thankfully the subsequent responses shoot this post down.

    Ok that should be enough. I keep posting all the derpy shit in this one thread and I'll be here all week.
     
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    What always boggles my mind about these "RPGs are only about role playing" types is that, and I am stereotyping here, they always seem to home in on story as a requirement. Isn't that completely contrary to what they are arguing? Wouldn't games like Darklands or some other games with a minimalist/traditional story actually lend themselves more to the act of role playing? When you are playing Mass Effect, sure, you can role play a variety of Shepard, but you are still this military guy at the end of the day. You still have to stop the reapers, visit the planets that the developers have layed out, and make the choices that have been chosen by the writers. In Darklands you can possibly never follow the Baphomet angle. The characters, their goals, and their history are completely at the whims of your own particular flavour of retardation. You want to make a band of women fighting against the heteronormative powers of the patriarchy? Go right ahead. You'll probably face just as many consequences for these imagined actions as you would in a modern RPG regardless.

    These people who claim to be interested in role playing and yet are touting Mass Effect as a shining example of an RPG are settling for games with:
    1.)Much fewer dialogue options.
    2.)A much higher degree of railroading.
    3.)None of the abstraction in dialogue that allows the player to impose their own tone on a message.
    4.)Pre chosen names.
    5.)No ability to change the physical aspects of the character outside of appearance.
    6.)Fewer methods to approach, or not approach, combat.
    7.)Next to no ability to define your character. Don't want your Shepard to be a military man? Too bad.

    The only thing that I can think of is that these people want to role play someone else's character. Which is, unless the character is already well established, impossible. You can't roleplay this Shepard fellow because he has no history, defined morality, or personality. There is no need to justify any of his choices with his personality outside the scope of the game because it doesn't exist. You can role play a character who happens to be named Shepard, but then the player is defining this character as they go. Do you know what that is? Character creation. Essentially, this is no different from what any old RPG did, except that most of the fun stuff has been done for you. If that is the problem, then just pick a pre generated character in any other RPG. It might even pick an alignment and history for you.

    Old RPGs are not only mechanically superior to their modern counterparts, they also provide a much higher degree of freedom for these role playing types.

    Then of course we have the people that claim that the only requirements for an RPG are obstacles, the means to upgrade your character, and then overcome the obstacles. Personally, I couldn't agree more. Super Metroid has my vote for the best RPG of all time.
     
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    What they want: An interactive, choose-your-own-adventure Joss Whedon TV show.
    What they call it: An RPG!
     
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    He's mostly right. Am I supposed to be outraged and disagree with it just because it was posted on TVTropes?
     
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