Icewind Dale Beamdog's Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition

[Transfiguring Roar]

Seems like a lot of people are having an off day.

Nothing like the smell of codex in the morning

That got a laugh outta me, cheers!

 

[Average Manatee]

If IWD2EE is intimidating for them I kind of want to see the clusterfuck that actually making a BG3 would entail.

 

[hoverdog]

And no BG3... Seriously, get on the 'create your own IP' bandwagon, hire a (couple) super creative mind(s), if they don't already have them, and create an interesting and different world... Maybe do an inXile and lease the PoE engine then modify as required (and come up with a better combat system, shouldn't be too hard...).

LOL WHAT?!!

They were incapable of doing ANYTHING with the Infinity engine in over a YEAR other than replacing the sound playing algorithm and introducing the scaling algorithm, which ended up working after another half a year of bug fixing. How do you figure they'd be able to actually MAKE a game? Lol.

Hm, what else did they achieve? Let's see... smudgy blurred UI. And.... Oh, that's it.

No, I'm forgetting something. They also made it impossible to use custom font mods (cause decided to change the font files format), and the fonts that they provide are utterly disgusting, don't resemble BG's original fonts at all.

AND they made their janitors voice act for the "characters" from the Black Pits II. The janitors also got paid a $5 bonus if they (inadequately) imitated some european accent - german, scandinavian, french, didn't matter, anything went.

And that's the extent of their capabilities.

pretty much this.
EE was the cheapest cashgrab imaginable.

 

[hell bovine]

could have chosen a better game for this

That's the thing. If they put this mod in, say, Planescape Torment(Which they most likely will) then I'd understand. I'd still complain about it, and I wouldn't buy it, but it wouldn't be completely missing the point of the game.

As long it is optional, it's not going to hamper anyone's ability to brag about how their half-blind, one-legged, butterknife-wielding dwarf has slain an onscreen representation of an imaginary monster in a fantasy simulator...

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

pretty much this.
EE was the cheapest cashgrab imaginable.

Where have you been? We all know, it's been said before numerous times for over a year, Beamdog have even hinted that ultimately it is to make a BG3, whatever that ends up meaning...

 

[hoverdog]

pretty much this.
EE was the cheapest cashgrab imaginable.

Where have you been? We all know, it's been said before numerous times for over a year, Beamdog have even hinted that ultimately it is to make a BG3, whatever that ends up meaning...

So? We should be grateful and buy this bug-ridden useless mess because they would like to create Baldur's Gate 3? The "work" they did on EEs is probably the worst endorsement they could have.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Man, the god mode thing is NOT a big deal, nor is it decline. It's entirely optional.

edit: though yeah, could have chosen a better game for this

It is a huge deal for the mindset it fosters, and it IS in fact the definition decline. The fact it is optional is completely besides the point.

 

[sbb]

Man, the god mode thing is NOT a big deal, nor is it decline. It's entirely optional.

edit: though yeah, could have chosen a better game for this

It is a huge deal for the mindset it fosters, and it IS in fact the definition decline. The fact it is optional is completely besides the point.

The fact that it's optional negates any decline, and only fosters another kind of play for the people who want it. You really think most people are going to actually choose to be invincible the entire game, just to play it? They may play popamole, but they don't like *actually* being invincible.

 

[retamar]

Man, the god mode thing is NOT a big deal, nor is it decline. It's entirely optional.

edit: though yeah, could have chosen a better game for this

It is a huge deal for the mindset it fosters, and it IS in fact the definition decline. The fact it is optional is completely besides the point.

The fact that it's optional negates any decline, and only fosters another kind of play for the people who want it. You really think most people are going to actually choose to be invincible the entire game, just to play it? They may play popamole, but they don't like *actually* being invincible.

Every single retarded gamemode is optional nowadays, but despite being optional, influence on the way the games are designed and balanced.
Anyway, I am not a Trent Oster and Co. hater, is just that every single new feature they announce on their enhanced versions just do not ring any bell, are just imbecile add ons, they do not enhance at all the game. Just empty and superficial.

 

[Bester]

Today they just present it as an option. Tomorrow they're designing games with invulnerable NPCs, and spend 5 minutes to implement an option where you can actually die, but don't work on it too much, leaving it as a "bonus" for those stupid nerd guys. And the day after tomorrow, the video games are dead.

 

[Lyric Suite]

the fact that it's optional negates any decline

No, the fact that it is out there increases the decline. If it wasn't optional, you'd be claiming that the enhanced edition in itself is optional and that we always have the original. And to extend that argument even further, all modern games are "optional" in that none of us has to play them if we don't want to. See, there is no decline. You just solved all the problems afflicting this entertainment form. Good job bro.

 

[sbb]

the fact that it's optional negates any decline

No, the fact that it is out there increases the decline. If it wasn't optional, you'd be claiming that the enhanced edition in itself is optional and that we always have the original. And to extend that argument even further, all modern games are "optional" in that none of us has to play them if we don't want to. See, there is no decline. You just solved all the problems afflicting this entertainment form. Good job bro.

No, taking the logic that far is retarded. Catering to casuals and Bubbles is not inherently decline, but forcing it on a genre frequently played by Lyric Suite definitely is. But they're not forcing it, so no decline.

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

So? We should be grateful and buy this bug-ridden useless mess because they would like to create Baldur's Gate 3? The "work" they did on EEs is probably the worst endorsement they could have.

Hoverdog, you're preaching to the choir. I haven't seen any truly positive comments regarding the EE's. The games are just being recycled. Like I said man, you're preaching to the choir.

 

[Roguey]

ITT people getting mad at cheats that aren't hidden by console commands

 

[Lyric Suite]

It is the principle behind the idea that is symptomatic of the decline. But i guess the very concept of a "standard" is incomprehensible to people who have none.

 

[sbb]

It is the principle behind the idea that is symptomatic of the decline. But i guess the very concept of a "standard" is incomprehensible to people who have none.

Your principle is symptomatic of being stuck-up and butthurt

 

[Infinitron]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vid...-Dale-Enhanced-Edition-Tips-Part-1-Get-Buffed



O_o

 

[Grunker]

 

[sbb]

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the future

 

[Lyric Suite]

It is the principle behind the idea that is symptomatic of the decline. But i guess the very concept of a "standard" is incomprehensible to people who have none.

Your principle is symptomatic of being stuck-up and butthurt

Last famous words huh?

Enjoy your shitty future, ho thou that would not listen.

 

[Outlander]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vid...-Dale-Enhanced-Edition-Tips-Part-1-Get-Buffed

O_o

What in the fuck was that.

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

That was shit.

What were they thinking?

 

[mediocrepoet]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vid...-Dale-Enhanced-Edition-Tips-Part-1-Get-Buffed

O_o

What in the fuck was that.

Seriously. Level 1 mages don't get any of those spells.

 

[Agesilaus]

Wasn't this game supposed to come out at the end of last month?

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

Yep, that's what they initially said, but now it's in beta testing, and they'll release it when it's ready (prob next year). This new vid wasn't a good idea to keep people interested/pull more people in, if that's what they were going for.