Beamdog's BG Remake and further speculation

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I was mostly thinking of BG2. Traversing the streets of Athkatla could get VERY annoying.

Thats why you enable cheat keys to CTRL-J to your destination of choice. Besides I dont recall BG2 having bad pathfinding either.

You know, a topic like this really makes me question whether people wanna play good games or if they just like to piss and moan.

There's a reason nobody makes complex RPGs anymore you fuckwits, because nobody buys them. Planescape sold like shit, Fallout 1/2 sold like shit, Arcanum sold like shit, and then you wonder why they don't make these games?

Now they're making an enhanced port of BG, and you're not looking at it as way to let your voice be heard? Christ man I already own these two games and BG isn't even my favorite series but if the game is a success maybe other companies will pull their heads out of their asses and see that our market is bone fucking dry and we'll lap up anything isometric w/ dice rolls/C&C. Looking forward to AoD? Me too.

Letting your voice be heard by dropping 50 bones to Wasteland 2 is great...now do the same with BG. Maybe all it will do is let them know we'll buy shitty remakes, but hey...at least we're letting them know we want to buy things.

Am I really the only one whose party splits into three in IE games because two people block a narrow flight of stairs for a few seconds and the AI finds that the only reasonable solution is to take a detour in the opposite direction instead of just waiting for the path to clear up?
It also happened to me in IWD. Clicking your way through a cleared dungeon floor just to find out at the exit that there's one party member stuck at the other end of the map was not a rare occurence.

Yes...yes I did. Please accept this as my formal introduction. Please prepare your paddles, the goat, and other hazing devices, so that I may post unfettered.

BG murdered CRPGs. Buying it's shitty remake isn't going to have a positive effect on the industry, it's not like RTwP ever went away.

Maybe I was bit zealous (read: faggy) in my first post, but I would gladly take a RTwP game nowadays over HEY CHECK OUT OUR NEW RPG IT'S LIKE DOOM BUT SHITTY CUZ WE ADDED STATS (THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING), BUT DON'T WORRY, BECAUSE WITH EACH SEQUEL, WE'LL SLOWLY TAKE THOSE STATS AWAY. DID YOU KNOW ALL OLD RPGS WANTED TO BE ACTION GAMES (WITH DATING SIMS), I AM A FAGGOT, PLEASE RAPE MY FACE.

I never really got along with BG when it came out - just too far removed from the games I most enjoyed (Bard's Tale, Wizardry series, Gold Box games) but yet I found myself enjoying DA:O a couple of years ago just because of the lack of options in the market. A redone BG1/2 would certainly interest me now, even if it did herald the beginning of the end when it was released.

Where's the good game, fuckwit? I've yet to see or hear anything that makes me think this isn't some ripoff of GemRB/Tutu/BGT and the plethora of free mods already available. My hunch is this merely going to "updated" so it can be run on an iPhone. Give me a reason to think otherwise. I've looked for Oster's other "good" games and have come up empty.

Not everyone is into rabid fanboyism. The difference between the Wasteland project and this is that one is clearly a cash grab using a well known game that is still completely fine and playable (with mods or otherwise), the other is an actual new game. I'm not about to enable this sort of nostalgia fueled nonsense. This sequel, remake and reboot madness is a part of the problem, not the solution.

You'd have to wonder though...this is one of Biofuck's claims to fame. If someone else gets their hands on it, and turns it into a success, the butthurt levels over in Canadia or wherever the fuck they are now would reach epic proportions. For this reason alone I hope it sells well.

Why? BG was the herald of the decline. The only thing buying BG can result in is more RTwP garbage.

BG wasn't the herald of the decline, BG2 was. BG was a great AD&D2 adaptation: it had item descriptions, weapon specializations, believable towns and lots of authentic AD&D2 magic items. If you are a slow shit-handed fag who can't handle RTwP, it's your problem.

Wait, what. BG2 wasn't better or worse than BG1 was. Any visible decline of BG began (and ended) with BG2TOB.

2/10

Upscale the graphics and redesign a proper interface for it.
Make the transition between BG1 and 2 seamless (and insert more BG1 companions in the second part).
Fix pathfinding.
Improve the multiplayer.
Dont stain it with shitty DRM (Beamdog).
Ask no more than $10 for it.
Profit?

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'll reserve judgement until I see some screenshots.:p

The MDK2 enhanced version was $15 at launch. Not sure they'd go lower than that for a title that is a far stronger brand than MDK.

Maybe a $20 / $25 bundle for both games.

BG2 deserves the blame for popularizing romances, but the mechanical decline was started by BG. You see, unlike RTwP games that had come before, which had been regarded as curiosities and hadn't made much impact, BG was widely hailed as the title that revitalized the RPG genre, despite taking great liberties with the genre's basic gameplay. This is where the "more action = better" line of thinking originates.

Please, I can handle Ninja Gaiden. A big problem with RTwP is that it can actually be a lot slower than TB because you end up wasting a lot of time pausing, unpausing, selecting characters, cancelling orders in response to the changes on the battlefield, issuing new orders... In TB games, there's none of this mess. A character's turn comes, you look around, you make the best decision you can, you give an order. Nice, fast, clean.