Baldur's Gate Beamdog's Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 Enhanced Editions

[Fairfax]

becomes

after you recruit her?

Seriously?

I wonder how intentional baiting players with a "hot white chick" and changing her into a "powerful black woman" was...

Not saying it isn't clever, but I can imagine Beamdog going "gamers are all racists, they'll never recruit a black women, we must trick her upon them!"

100%.

 

[Jinn]

What in the fuck, Beamdog?

 

[Once more unto the Codex]

That is 365 different kinds of fucked up...I can't decide whether being African should make me more or less offended by this retardedness on Beamdog's part.

Edit: ok, now that I know the full context, I think it's actually a cool concept...in theory...

 

[Alienman]

Wut, how and why? How does that play out?

 

[Prime Junta]

Seriously?

Yes.

To be fair, there's a pretty cool twist to the why and wherefore of it.

Spoiler

The girl in the first portrait is a human dominated by the vampire in the second portrait. Recruit her, follow her quest, and you'll end up in the vampire's lair. She'll kill her and join your party in her place. She's also scarily OP, being a vamp and all.

 

[santino27]

Seriously?

Yes.

To be fair, there's a pretty cool twist to the why and wherefore of it.

Spoiler

The girl in the first portrait is a human dominated by the vampire in the second portrait. Recruit her, follow her quest, and you'll end up in the vampire's lair. She'll kill her and join your party in her place. She's also scarily OP, being a vamp and all.

Spoiler

Agreed. The original (white) NPC was just a thrall meant to lead you to help free the actual vampire. Of course, the actual vampire wasn't particularly well written, but I think that holds for most of the Beamdog NPCs. It's a bit of a problem when players liked the original thrall more than the actual companion.

 

[ArchAngel]

Seriously?

Yes.

To be fair, there's a pretty cool twist to the why and wherefore of it.

Spoiler

The girl in the first portrait is a human dominated by the vampire in the second portrait. Recruit her, follow her quest, and you'll end up in the vampire's lair. She'll kill her and join your party in her place. She's also scarily OP, being a vamp and all.

Spoiler

Agreed. The original (white) NPC was just a thrall meant to lead you to help free the actual vampire. Of course, the actual vampire wasn't particularly well written, but I think that holds for most of the Beamdog NPCs. It's a bit of a problem when players liked the original thrall more than the actual companion.

I liked the actual companion a lot. Finally a single class rogue that is actually useful. Don't care how it looks.

 

[Iznaliu]

Finally a single class rogue that is actually useful

A vampire.... rogue? Seriously?

 

[Sizzle]

Finally a single class rogue that is actually useful

A vampire.... rogue? Seriously?

The mod is better :D

 

[ArchAngel]

Finally a single class rogue that is actually useful

A vampire.... rogue? Seriously?

Good Strength that lets the character actually hit stuff, bonus armor, life regeneration, immunity to non magical weapon, immunity to some elements and so on. They even gave her a cloak that lets he walk in daylight (but with stat penalties)

 

[Bonerbill]

Good Strength that lets the character actually hit stuff, bonus armor, life regeneration, immunity to non magical weapon, immunity to some elements and so on. They even gave her a cloak that lets he walk in daylight (but with stat penalties)

Still a single class thief despite her strength score, so the only thing she useful for is laying traps. She still doesn't come close to the usefulness of another certain thief you can use for the whole game (who still a good thief despite being half thief).

 

[ArchAngel]

Good Strength that lets the character actually hit stuff, bonus armor, life regeneration, immunity to non magical weapon, immunity to some elements and so on. They even gave her a cloak that lets he walk in daylight (but with stat penalties)

Still a single class thief despite her strength score, so the only thing she useful for is laying traps. She still doesn't come close to the usefulness of another certain thief you can use for the whole game (who still a good thief despite being half thief).

Two weapon fighting, more damage per hit, vampire abilities, can fight without backstabbing. Can max out detect illusions and laying traps. Immune to many spells that disable other thieves. Will get to lvl 21 thief very fast and access epic abilities.

 

[Parabalus]

Two weapon fighting, more damage per hit, vampire abilities, can fight without backstabbing. Can max out detect illusions and laying traps. Immune to many spells that disable other thieves. Will get to lvl 21 thief very fast and access epic abilities.

They should have given her the new Shadowdancer kit, plain thief is boring and thrash. Switching the cloak is annoying and her death mist form can get bugged. By far the worst EE NPC, without even going into the Strong Black Independent Lesbian Dom stuff.

 

[ArchAngel]

Two weapon fighting, more damage per hit, vampire abilities, can fight without backstabbing. Can max out detect illusions and laying traps. Immune to many spells that disable other thieves. Will get to lvl 21 thief very fast and access epic abilities.

They should have given her the new Shadowdancer kit, plain thief is boring and thrash. Switching the cloak is annoying and her death mist form can get bugged. By far the worst EE NPC, without even going into the Strong Black Independent Lesbian Dom stuff.

I can only agree about the cloak thing, but I suffered through it for a useful rogue in my mostly evil party.
As for Dorn, I never liked him as a character even in BG1 where he was OP. He is too submissive to you for a guy that is supposed to be a CE Blackguard.
Korgan is a much more interesting evil fighter and his story of how he got rid of his previous party was epic :D

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Wait, so there's a vampire companion in BGEE, who also forcibly replaces a party member with no player input?

 

[Sannom]

How is that new or even something that people should care about?

 

[ArchAngel]

Wait, so there's a vampire companion in BGEE, who also forcibly replaces a party member with no player input?

Not really. That party member is just a temporary NPC whose job is to bring your her mistress. It is not like you lose Minsc without being able to do anything.

 

[Grotesque]

I wonder how intentional baiting players with a "hot white chick" and changing her into a "powerful black woman" was...

Not saying it isn't clever, but I can imagine Beamdog going "gamers are all racists, they'll never recruit a black women, we must trick her upon them!"

I am playing now PoE1 White March with this portrait for my character.
I literally did not found any other portrait appealing

 

[ERYFKRAD]

"gamers are all racists, they'll never recruit a black women, we must trick her upon them!"

But, but, Viconia is like, black.

 

[Mystary!]

I wonder how intentional baiting players with a "hot white chick" and changing her into a "powerful black woman" was...

Not saying it isn't clever, but I can imagine Beamdog going "gamers are all racists, they'll never recruit a black women, we must trick her upon them!"

I am playing now PoE1 White March with this portrait for my character.
I literally did not found any other portrait appealing

What's your character called, Irenaeus?

 

[Luckmann]

Wait, so there's a vampire companion in BGEE, who also forcibly replaces a party member with no player input?

The "Enhanced" editions of BG1/2 are condensed awful. They have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. It's sad that they are the new "norm" for what was once the gems of the genre.

 

[Sizzle]

Wait, so there's a vampire companion in BGEE, who also forcibly replaces a party member with no player input?

The "Enhanced" editions of BG1/2 are condensed awful. They have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. It's sad that they are the new "norm" for what was once the gems of the genre.

The only good parts are the almost instantaneous loading + some of the new kits (like the sorcerer and monk ones).

But every bit of new content: the NPCs, the areas - is pure decline that makes BioWare's writing seem excellent in comparison.

And Siege of Dragonspear... well, the less said about that SJW shit-fest the better.

 

[Projas]

The best EE feature is colored selection circles.

 

[Lacrymas]

I can only agree about the cloak thing, but I suffered through it for a useful rogue in my mostly evil party.
As for Dorn, I never liked him as a character even in BG1 where he was OP. He is too submissive to you for a guy that is supposed to be a CE Blackguard.
Korgan is a much more interesting evil fighter and his story of how he got rid of his previous party was epic :D

Dorn is obviously submissive from the get-go, being a blackguard and everything (he's just selective of who he submits to). Of the EE NPCs he had the most potential, and some of it is realized (like losing his powers depending on your influence on him), but could've been much more. Basically ALL evil companions in BG1 are overpowered (to the point of Edwin being better than a mage PC), that was the point, losing the shop discounts but getting better companions. Otherwise, yeah, we need more "evil" companions, just because they tend to be less naive and more nuanced than the "good" ones.

 

[Parabalus]

The only good parts are the almost instantaneous loading + some of the new kits (like the sorcerer and monk ones).

But every bit of new content: the NPCs, the areas - is pure decline that makes BioWare's writing seem excellent in comparison.

And Siege of Dragonspear... well, the less said about that SJW shit-fest the better.

The backgrounds for the new areas in BGEE are the most hideous thing I have seen in a game in the last decade. The later ones are pgood tho.

They had some decent ideas but failed in the execution a lot, EE still feels smoother to play because of the loading times.