Assassin's Creed Odyssey, set in ancient Greece - it's definitely an RPG now

[LESS T_T]

 

[Fedora Master]

Leftists emptying yet another specific term of all meaning so they can abuse it for their own ends.

 

[Life of the Party]

 

[unfairlight]

It looks like garbage. Piranha Bytes tier combat with slightly better animations.

 

[aweigh]

Finally a mainstream RPG with enough clout to rival Final Fantasy 7!

 

[Lord_Potato]

I am quite enthusiastic about the game (enjoyed Origins and I do love ancient Greece as a setting, which is at the same time very underused in RPGs), but I do not like that Alexios and Cassandra play through the same story. It's actually moronic, there were no female mercenaries in the era.

However, despite the patriarchal society of ancient Hellenic world, there were women, who could be independent, travel and have adventures. For example poets like Sappho, famous musicians, priestesses.

I think it would be cool if the story of a mercenary Alexios would actually differ a lot from the story of Cassandra. He would use more brute strength, she would have to engage in subterfuge and only use force when absolutely necessary. They could have different encounters, different ways to solve quests and influence the events. That would be great.

But it's cheaper and less creative to just make Alexios and Cassandra mirror images with different genders. I guess Ubisoft decided not to put too much effort into this. IMO, a lost chance.

 

[typical user]

I believe Kassandra is here only because SJW journos were harassing Ubisoft on the subject. The game itself looks like Origins. Can't say more because I didn't play that one. On the side note, why people pirate games like Assassin's Creed? Because they are similiar, if I were to buy Odyssey then I would just download Origins and play it afterwards or not at all and watch the ending on YouTube. Makes you think.

 

[aweigh]

if anything the one "who's there only because of" would be the male protag. No way a cucked publisher like ubisoft would dare release a new entry in ass creed franchise with another male protag.

 

[cherry blossom]

After 30+ years of gaming, you guys still not tired of male protags?

 

[Whiny-Butthurt-Liberal]

Why are the Greeks brown-skinned? Have the sjw quebecois communist fruitcakes squeezing out this annual asscreed turd ever seen Mediterranean people in their lives? They're not Hindus. They don't have Brown skin, and are not PoC.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

After 30+ years of gaming, you guys still not tired of male protags?

I'm already super tired of manly, angry, violent, testosterone-filled, dick-swinging, dumpy "female" protagonists wearing a succession of sharia-compliant outfits.

 

[Nutria]

I do not like that Alexios and Cassandra play through the same story.

This shit drives me nuts because I'd love to play as a strong female character in ancient Greece. Why do developers make these pseudo-historical settings where everyone believes in Scandinavian-style gender equality? Is it just because they're too lazy and stupid to imagine how other cultures might work? Or are they so sexist that they can't imagine that women could make great achievements back then? Instead of actually looking at history to find powerful women to draw inspiration from, they just say what the hell, we'll put titties on our gruff male action hero. Our female ancestors deserve better than to be forgotten like this.

BRB, I gotta take some Gender Studies courses so I can learn how to use terms like "erasure" to describe this.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Why are the Greeks brown-skinned? Have the sjw quebecois communist fruitcakes squeezing out this annual asscreed turd ever seen Mediterranean people in their lives? They're not Hindus. They don't have Brown skin, and are not PoC.

Actually, ancient Greeks were divided into several large tribes with different heritage and "color palette", if I may say that.

While Dorians and the Acheans were often fair-skinned and even had blonde hair, the Ionians (who inhabitted Attica, most islands of the Aegean Sea and shores of Asia Minor) were mostly olive-skinned, dark haired and dark eyed. There was ofcourse mixing between tribes, so you could meet people of every group in most regions of ancient Hellas.

 

[Aqualung]

Whoa, what a crap. Why do people put so much effort into ruining your image of your most cherished stories and characters?

I almost prefer the Bee Gee-like Ulysses and the blue minotaurs.

And, of course:

 

[Forest Dweller]

I am quite enthusiastic about the game (enjoyed Origins and I do love ancient Greece as a setting, which is at the same time very underused in RPGs), but I do not like that Alexios and Cassandra play through the same story. It's actually moronic, there were no female mercenaries in the era.

However, despite the patriarchal society of ancient Hellenic world, there were women, who could be independent, travel and have adventures. For example poets like Sappho, famous musicians, priestesses.

I think it would be cool if the story of a mercenary Alexios would actually differ a lot from the story of Cassandra. He would use more brute strength, she would have to engage in subterfuge and only use force when absolutely necessary. They could have different encounters, different ways to solve quests and influence the events. That would be great.

But it's cheaper and less creative to just make Alexios and Cassandra mirror images with different genders. I guess Ubisoft decided not to put too much effort into this. IMO, a lost chance.

I think what would be funny is if you pick Cassandra, you get raped, and then the game ends.

 

[Lord_Potato]

However, rape of the heroine may be just a beginning of an epic adventure, as evidenced by the brilliant NVN module A Dance with Rogues Part 1.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

When will Far Cry and Call of Duty be moved to General RPG?

 

[Lord_Potato]

When will Far Cry and Call of Duty be moved to General RPG?

Propably when they get experience points and levels, character builds, party mechanics (in Odyssey - forming the crew of your tritreme) and c&c.

 

[unfairlight]

Far Cry already has experience points and levels, character builds from choosing your skills and party mechanics due to the companion system.
Call of Duty has the first 2, but not the third.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Genres mix and borders between them are blurry. One needs to be flexible in such troubled times!

 

[Lacrymas]

tfw your definition of RPG gets so blurry and basically nothing that AssCreed is in general RPG...

 

[Lord_Potato]

I think it is worth acknowledging in the world where Bethesda and Bioware are reducing role playing elements in every next iteration of their games, Ubisoft actually keeps adding rp elements to their series...

 

[Lacrymas]

Or, the more logical and sane alternative, these things are not what makes RPGs RPGs and can just be in any game ever, which they obviously are.

 

[Lord_Potato]

If this discussion is to continue, we should agree upon a clear definition of what is a crpg.

 

[Lacrymas]

There is no need to agree on anything, I have already established what an RPG is. That's besides the point, though, the point being AssCreed shouldn't be in general RPG and whoever thinks otherwise is wrong and insane.