Alleged Doom 4 screenshots (Mattepaintings?) leaked

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Exactly, and that's the reason why Half-Life was an success and changed the genre. "Arcade shooters" had been done to death and everyone was bored by them.

But nothing says that it might not happen again. Except retarded publishers maybe.

He cannot into anything, really.

Let's not rewrite history and say here that people were "bored" of Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Tribes.

The more Codex-tards are gang-disagreeing with me, the more certain I'm to be in the right!

Thanks gentlemen and trannies for proving my point. And now go back and play Doom on your shitty 8 year old Laptops.

I dunno man, that kind of sounds like Volourn-logic to me. Are you sure you want to go down that path?

People were fed up with the 239th primitive, braindead clone of the basically same game, that there have been some classics and gems among them (and I have never denied it) doesn't change much about the outcome.

ITT Morgoth trolls the Codex by using the Pink Nostalgia Goggles Arguement.

Doom 1 and 2 are classics. Yes, there are many shitty FPS games from that era, but there's no way anyone can objectively call Doom 1 and 2 bad games with a straight face.

While all the unwashed masses were playing Doom 2 in these days, the more refined were playing the way superior System Shock and Cyber Mage.

Lol, except HL was a simplistic arcade shooter too, albeit heavily scripted, which many retards considered to be a positive thing.

Play modern Doom .wads in Zdaemon or something. It's still the greatest ever.

Ugh, i hate when threads get 4+ pages only because of trolling. Alea iacta est, Morongoth.

Final Doom, bro, Evilution and, especially, Plutonia. Dat pac-man-like level with 18 Arch-viles.
Plus a lot of great wads and megawads, dat Alien Vendetta.
Doom is incredibly well designed game, you don't need to be another Romero to produce couple of entertaining levels, even just for yourself, even in few evenings.

Cybermage ha ha are you shitting me

meh if final doom counts so do tons of other wads that came out later

besides, evilution is pretty meh

Yes, every good game counts as a good game, brah.

Nah they def. count as separate games in their own right, ofc. they were sanctioned by id and they included a few fixes and updates to the engine as well (which is why Final Doom has its own prBoom complevel).

The real question is, what about the Master Levels????????

I don't get what TripJack means by "last doom", then. It's not like you can tell that Plutonia wasn't made by id simply by playing it.

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Substituting one shit FPS series with an even shittier one to make your point asperger? What's this?

Do people actually think I like the sorts of CoD and Battlederp? You got the wrong guy.

Yes Morgoth you're very prestigious we understand

@OE I think he just means Doom 3 was not particularly good, which I'm sure we can all agree with

Doom was an awesome game, and Morgoth is a piece of shit himself.

One thing that I didn't liked about Doom 2 though is that it didn't felt like I really was on Earth. It was an excellent game, but, you know, they could've at least tried to make some street levels. If the cover or manual wouldn't have told me I was on earth, then I would never had an idea. That was kind of an missed opportunity.

And about Half Life, it was kind of OK, but it had terrible spoon feeding levels at the beginning, where the only enemies you encounter are the shitty mudcrabs, facehuggers or whatever the were.

No. The fact that HL was hugely successful doesn't mean that people were tired of """"arcade shooters""". Half-Life is simply a very, very good game. Doom still has community, which didn't simply vanished after HL was released, it was thriving up until some years after Doom 3.

Yeah, i just got used to people adding "...because Doom 3 is shit" after "Doom 2 was the last Doom". Heh.

I want to play some skulltag.

Well look at these true oldfags who know 'bout HL for realz, not from gaming ad-magazines. Half Life isn't an arcade shooter? System Shock never happened? Strife (on Doom engine no less) never existed? Even consoletard Goldeneye?

Then Half Life came and immediately did nothing new.