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Alistair sucks dog's balls as does the Landsmeet.

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by commie, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. commie Magister Patron

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    Ok I've been playing this great Bioware game for a few weeks now(I'd say it's even better than KOTOR, so maybe I'll be going through it 7 times), but the dumb cunt Alistair at the Landsmeet and all the plot holes there have fucking pissed me off no end. I actually liked him until now but his pathetic tantrum at letting Loghain live was enough to let me not intervene in his execution despite being in a romance as a Dwarf Commoner with the faggot. All through the game he's all whiny and disapproving if I do something bad or even slightly questionable yet all of a sudden he calls for the murder of a man who submits willingly after losing a fair duel. I tend to play all the 'C&C' type of RPG's as a 'Jesus' at first, forgiving everyone that surrenders and begs for mercy, so wanted to let Loghain redeem himself.

    That faggot though wouldn't let it go, crying about his lover Duncan all the fucking while. Big fucking Warden. Shit, it it was Duncan instead of Riordan, he would have accepted Loghain joining for pragmatic reasons too, but this prick decided to leave the Wardens just when the whole point of Loghain joining was that there weren't enough of them? Give me a fucking break. I don't think even Alistair could be that fucked. Fate of the world is in the balance and you need all the Warden fodder you can get and this cunt just leaves?

    As for Duncan, he was going to die soon anyway from the Taint, and the whole thing of him keeping everything a secret from recruits made him a prick too. Ok, don't mention the joining, but at least make it more clear that you could die in 'training' and that your life expectancy won't be long if you become a Grey Warden. But no, he shiftily press gangs people into joining. Fuck him. He was also an idiot in agreeing with a frontal assault against the Derpspawn. You see the troops not even standing and forming a shield wall but running like idiots. Loghain had the right idea to not commit suicide and some other character says something that had the rest of the army fought, they would have been killed too.

    At least I got to say 'It's about time.' about his execution, which made me laugh even if I had to imagine it.

    Fuck this bit more than others. Was dreading the ubiquitous 'Carth Onasi' moment that rears it's head in every Bioware game, but this really took the piss. All of Onasi's shit rolled into a ball wouldn't outdo Alistair's idiot outbreak.

    As for Loghain, wasn't the joining supposed to be a great secret? How did Anora know that Loghain could die from it then? They also talk about this all in full view of every faggot in the chamber. Duncan slaughtered everyone to not let the secret out, but now even the lowly maid knows what's going on?


    Anyway, in before 'serves you right for playing a shit game' Hurr, durr....
  2. SCO Arcane

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    serves you right for playing a shit game
  3. SCO Arcane

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    written by failed writers
  4. laclongquan Liturgist

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    Another example of hope triumph over experiences and sage advices.
  5. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    So I went to the wiki to remember some stuff about Allistair and

    :hmmm:

    Weirly, neither his of Loghain's page mention he'll leave if you let Loghain around. In fact, his Background seems to be left blank. I guess that's not as important as the romance section~
  6. Stinger Liturgist

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    You can throw in one of the other companions in there as well to make it a foursome.

    Bioware knows their audience.
  7. SCO Arcane

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  8. Befuddled Halfling Barely Literate

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    Agreed that Alistair had more than just a mentor-pupil relationship with Duncan. Did you do Alistair's sister quest? If so, did you tell him that people are all "out for themselves" or options in a similar tone like? Because if you did, and said something equally cynical again before the Landsmeet, you actually change his personality and he becomes less whiny and more of a 'get it done' man. All his dialog changes after that. He'll also then tolerate Loghain and eg marry Anora while you let Loghain sacrifice himself in the archdemon battle.

    Loghain probably didn't charge the darkspawn because King Maric was getting 'friendly' with the queen of Orlais. If you do Return to Ostagar, you'll find the letters in his tent. This is why Loghain wanted him dead - at that time, the darkspawn threat was not a Blight (no-one had seen an archdemon at that point), and Loghain is obsessed with hating Orlais. He felt that letting the King fall in a minor darskpawn skirmish was better than an occupation by Orlais that Maric's marriage would have brought. If you read Gaider's "Stolen Throne" you'll know why he's hates Orlais so much.
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    But, bro, wasn't he raised in a chantry? It would be silly expecting rational behaviour from a religious person. Not to mention a sissy faggot. It's a feature, mang.

    Surprised that was what triggered your 'wtfidonteven', though. I was unbelieving the fuck I was seeing throughout the whole 10 hours the game took from my life.



    Also: serves you right for playing a shit game. Hurr, durr...
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    Now you've gone and done it Befuddled Halfling. NOW YOU'VE GONE AND GODDAMN DONE IT.
  11. RK47 No time like the present Patron

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    You're absolutely right. This is why I love the lore so much, there's always an explanation for everything.
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    Plotholes? In my AAAAA+ titles? How is this POSSIBLE? Where did all of those money go? Not into forming a coherent story? Oh wait.
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  15. CrunchyHemorrhoids Educated

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    Had you told Allistair to toughen up in his personal quest he'd be ok with Loghain living.
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    The fact that you even made it as far as the Landsmeet suggests you made several fortitude saves against unending trash combat and multiple will saves against bioretardation so...uh well done I guess
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  18. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    The battle was retarded. They tried to defeat a savage, physically stronger oppenent by running at them in a loose formation, with the king in the lead. The only strategy employed was to shoot a single wave of arrows and send dogs at the darkspawn.

    I'm pretty sure that the reason why we didn't see this:

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    Was because it wouldn't be cool enough. You HAVE to have dudes with giant shoulder pads who dual wield greatswords. It's not art direction if it's stupid.

    EDIT: Also, I'm pretty sure you send battle dogs at a retreating enemy. Maybe send them to flank an enemy already engaged in combat? In case of DA hounds I thought that they bonded with their owners and would aid them during combat? What owners would allow their prized dogs to be wasted in a front attack?

    Let's not forgot that even if the hounds are successful, then the majority of them will need to be put down because they gulped the tainted blood. So, you spend years perfecting the breeds, training them, selecting the individual dogs and bonding with them, and buying the hounds for incredible amounts of money, only to send all of them on a frontal assault?
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    One thing that was always so...remarkable about the Dragon Age games is:

    You have these super trained Templers with these gigantic armours and shoulder pads, but when they disagree with you, you just intimitade them and they start whining like little girls and run away to hide in some closet.

    I mean what the fuck.

    Why not getting your own ass whooped if the NPC doesn't like your tone? Choices and consequences, Biotard!
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    Okay, I saw the damned video. Please tell me there was a point to that.

    I'm so fucking glad I'm a vegan.
  23. sgc_meltdown Magister

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    the funny thing here is that you can only get this worked up about an rpg if you really like all the other parts
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    Bioware should've just bought the Warhammer license...I mean, fuck look at how much effort they put in the lore...gods...Relic's such a waste of time.

    And Cryptic with the Neverwinter Online...pshaw. Single player's where it's at, baby!

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