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Age of Decadence Reviews

Discussion in 'Iron Tower Studio' started by Infinitron, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. Lurker King Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    It's much worse. At least in these criticisms you have an expectation about gameplay. In this case the player has an expectation about moral content. It's pure moralism.

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  2. Cadmus Arcane

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    What - so he doesn't like playing a lying murder-hobo. I think that's a completely valid point of view. Same as you wouldn't like playing a pink-haired trans teen. It's not for everybody.
     
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  3. Lurker King Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    It's a hypocrisy because 99% of cRPG games revolve around violence and conquering. The difference is that most of them have cardboard characters and simplistic story lines so that there is no thought about the stuff you do in gameplay. But AoD is well written, the characters are believable and the events are portrayed in a realistic manner. I would have no problems playing with a pink-haired trans teen if xir and the world around xir were believable. LOL
     
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  4. Cadmus Arcane

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    You're right the world is more believable but that makes you play an asshole. In Skyrim (the best RPG) you don't play the asshole, you play a good guy who kills totally evil orcs and shit. As I said, it's just not for everyone. I think the complaint is valid as the person was not the target audience.
     
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  5. Lurker King Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    Not good enough. I can explain why I don’t like a movie while recognizing that is a good movie for a certain genre. The same thing applies to cRPGs. Just because you don’t enjoy dealing with assholes doesn’t entitle you to dismiss the writing and down vote the game. It's not an impartial criticism.
     
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  6. Black Angel Savant

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    Adding to that, you can help Caius Amerius with regaining his house. You can also keep your word with the dirty guy by the well, you can be buddy-buddy with the assholes in the Slums (and get mugged in one of them). There's actually a LOT of opportunities and dialogue options to be the good guy. I don't understand how that guy missed them after tens of hours of gameplay...
     
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  7. Lurker King Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    People need to differentiate their personal tastes from impartial tasting. You can frown on white wine, but still be able to evaluate whether it is good white wine or not. The same thing holds for cRPGs.
     
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  8. PlanHex Arcane Patron

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    Made me think that Steam could do something like they did with curators, but even if Steam reviews had the same recommended/not recommended/informational review distinctions that the curator system has now, then people doing "meh, not for me" reviews would probably still give it thumbs down rather than mark it "informational"...
     
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  9. Make America Great Again Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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    A better comparison is Fallout. In it, you can be good, self-interested (neutral) or evil. In AoD, you can only be self-interested (neutral) or evil.
     
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  10. Vault Dweller Ubersturmfuhrer, Iron Tower Studio Developer

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    Good can only work in black and white situations. Slavers - bad. Opposing slavers - good. Supermutants killing people - bad, fighting super mutants - good (even if the master's motivations weren't entirely evil). AoD has different factions playing in the same backyard, so you can't do good for your faction without doing what other factions would consider "evil". Furthermore, you can't do good for your faction by performing abstract good deeds as they won't solve their problems and achieve their goals.
     
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    IG are the good guys.
     
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  12. Make America Great Again Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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    You should play their first mission.
     
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  13. Excidium II Arcane

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    Carrinas does not represent the imperial guard. Although at least he forced the leadership out of complacency.
     
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    Arrange an alliance between Carrinas and Antidas and boom - best possible outcome achieved. And a 'good' one at that.
     
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  15. Make America Great Again Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis, Hater of Eternity

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    the goodest ending is to nuke it from orbit arm's reach
     
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  16. HeatEXTEND Learned

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    Classifying good/evil as such and putting it in AoD would have taken another 3 years of development :lol:

    Show Spoiler
    :bounce::bounce::bounce:
     
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    Actually, Miltiades ending is the best ending.
     
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    That fucker probably qualifies for Rpgcodex NPC of the decade.
     
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    Usually I try to help people who are struggling but I'm not even sure what to tell him.
     
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  20. Goral Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    He's a Skyrim lover so what can you expect? Anyway, there have been quite a few negative reviews recently and as expected all of them are of the "it's too hard" variety. It still amazes me how stupid some people are.
     
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    "git gud"
     
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  22. HoboForEternity Magister

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    i was about to say the same thing :(

    Y u stole my thunder
     
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  23. PlanHex Arcane Patron

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    You could have just added "git gud, scrub". But now you can't.
     
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  25. HeatEXTEND Learned

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    Tell him you're sorry he didn't like the game, but to look out for your next release, CSRPG, which will cater to a younger, more casual crowd. :lol:
     
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