Decline There are no more good RPGs anymore

[Makabb]

And I mean real good, like we used to get in 90's and 00's that would combine art-storytelling-mechanics-music.
Today a game always lacks in one of those aspects due to it being indie (1 guy can't create all of that) or being dumbed down( derp dung age hurr durr).
The last good RPG I played was in the 00's and it was KOTOR 2.
RPGs died around the time when first Mass Effect was created.

 

[ArchAngel]

And I mean real good, like we used to get in 90's and 00's that would combine art-storytelling-mechanics-music.
Today a game always lacks in one of those aspects due to it being indie (1 guy can't create all of that) or being dumbed down( derp dung age hurr durr).
The last good RPG I played was in the 00's and it was KOTOR 2.
RPGs died around the time when first Mass Effect was created.

Kotor 2 has terrible mechanics and combat. Stop using those drugs man...

 

[Makabb]

Kotor has normal rpg mechanics and RTWP combat (not turn based but still)

 

[ArchAngel]

Kotor has normal rpg mechanics and RTWP combat (not turn based but still)

No it didn't. It used D20 Star Wars pnp mechanics as a base but made a lot of changes to it. In the end it played terrible with little to no balance.

 

[Peacefriend]

like we used to get in 90's and 00's that would combine art-storytelling-mechanics-music.

Was such combination actually common? If you look at codex favorites: Planescape has terrible mechanics while blobbers often had little to no story. Still they are liked for what they are good at - being good in all aspects is not necessary for a game to be good.
And I have not played KOTORs, but I have received the impression their mechanics are terrible as well?

 

[Makabb]

Kotor has normal rpg mechanics and RTWP combat (not turn based but still)

No it didn't. It used D20 Star Wars pnp mechanics as a base but made a lot of changes to it. In the end it played terrible with little to no balance.

HAHAAHHAAHAHH BALANCE IN A SINGLE PLAYER GAME, GET A LOAD OF THIS GUY

 

[Master]

What about Witcher 1 from 2007? If you liked Kotor...

 

[Makabb]

What about Witcher 1 from 2007? If you liked Kotor...

HAHAHAHAH BITCHER 1, THE MOD FOR BIOWARE AURORA ENGINE, DON'T GET ME EVEN STARTING SON

 

[Master]

Mod? What that makes Kotor 2 then.

 

[Fowyr]

And I mean real good

Underrail.

 

[Makabb]

Was such combination actually common? If you look at codex favorites: Planescape has terrible mechanics while blobbers often had little to no story.

Planescape still has better mechanics than turds of today (dragon age, mass effect etc)
Blobbers is a different genre.

And I have not played KOTORs, but I have received the impression their mechanics are terrible as well?

No, the mechanics are ok

 

[Wunderbar]

Fallout 76 though. It's gonna be a good rpg.

 

[Makabb]

And I mean real good

Underrail.

Sadly it falls in the storytelling aspect.The writing and the quests represent the usual variety of kill things or delivering something to a NPC.
1 guy cannot create it all.

 

[Fowyr]

Blobbers is a different genre.

They are just different sub-genre of CRPGs, not another genre.
Give me Eye of the Beholder anytime rather than Dragon Age: Inquisition.

 

[Makabb]

Fallout 76 though. It's gonna be a good rpg.

RPG most likely not, but it will be a fun online shooter.

 

[Makabb]

They are just different sub-genre of CRPGs, not another genre.
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That's what I said, also I was talking about the 'main' rpgs.

 

[Black_Willow]

The last decent RPG was Moria in 1978. Everything after that is popamole crap.

 

[ArchAngel]

And I mean real good

Underrail.

Sadly it falls in the storytelling aspect.The writing and the quests represent the usual variety of kill things or delivering something to a NPC.
1 guy cannot create it all.

This just proves you are a storyfag so we can ignore your opinion

 

[FeelTheRads]

RPG most likely not

"Most likely". Cool story, bro.

Died with Mass Effect is also lol. They died much earlier than that. Whatever else good that came later were just ghost hauntings. And KOTOR or other Bioturd and Obsidishit crap do not qualify.

And based on what you're asking for the thread title should be "there are no more good AAA RPGs anymore".

 

[Theldaran]

What about No Man's Sky?

 

[Makabb]

RPG most likely not

"Most likely". Cool story, bro.

Well it's a FPS, but it has RPG elements, it's not a FPS like Doom, or corridor walker like Call of duty.

Died with Mass Effect is also lol. They died much earlier than that. Whatever else good that came later were just ghost hauntings. And KOTOR or other Bioturd and Obsidishit crap do not qualify

Yea right, so Icewind dale 2 is a bad game?

And based on what you're asking for the thread title should be "there are no more good AAA RPGs anymore".

Tell me one indie of today RPG that is good like other good rpgs.

 

[Fowyr]

Tell me one indie of today RPG that is good like other good rpgs.

Grimoire.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

Yeah that perfect combination of music and artstyle is quite rare these days. I'm thinking of Diablo 1 and the first act of Diablo 2, they took this to perfection. Not really RPG:s but they are still good examples.

 

[Makabb]

Tell me one indie of today RPG that is good like other good rpgs.

Grimoire.

Grimoire was in the works for over 20 years by a Thal ubermensch - it does not count as indie of today as it has been in the proof of works as a concept since the times of Golden Era.

One can say that Grimoire is the last haunting of the Golden Era.

 

[Theldaran]

Move over to novels, you'll feel more accomplished in that culture.