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Kyl Von Kull

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How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.

Edit: this was originally in response to people bitching about gay romances in the Pathfinder thread. I would never create a thread like this.
 
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I know of no men that who would willingly play a female character when there is the option of playing a male. That's just ridiculous.
How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.
 

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How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.

I don't think that many men play as a woman in rpgs, hell even in Mass Effect barely 18% of the players played as FemShep, that's pathetic numbers especially for a company as Soyware, which we all know is filled with degenerates that want all straight men to be eradicated.
 

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In my couple of decades of DM'ing and quite a few different player groups. I saw around 30% of straight male players playing at one point or another a female character.
 

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How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.
What are the statistics on the percentage of players that are male, and pick a female character, and then romance a female character?

You say 'lots of men' but you're pulling that out of your arse, you have no real data on that.
 

jf8350143

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Wait, so you guys are telling me that there are actually players who role play as characters that has different gender to them? In a RPG?

What's next? Adding character creation system to the RPGs?
 

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How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.
What are the statistics on the percentage of players that are male, and pick a female character, and then romance a female character?

You say 'lots of men' but you're pulling that out of your arse, you have no real data on that.

I do I do I do.

In fact that follow the tradition of KOTOR1.

When I made the trouble of not staring at a male butt all game long, might as well go the whole nine yards and choose lesbian romance too. I mean, think about it. If I play a female, then I choose a female-male romance it would make me feel soooooo disgusted.

Once you choose a female character, lesbian romance is the only way to go.
 

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I was in a hurry and forgot to mention the straight female players I had over the years. Around 75% of those players made at one point or another a male character to play with.
Although the total number of female players are much lower than the total number of male players I ever had in my groups (which is not unexpected).
 

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How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.
What are the statistics on the percentage of players that are male, and pick a female character, and then romance a female character?

You say 'lots of men' but you're pulling that out of your arse, you have no real data on that.

I do I do I do.

In fact that follow the tradition of KOTOR1.

When I made the trouble of not staring at a male butt all game long, might as well go the whole nine yards and choose lesbian romance too. I mean, think about it. If I play a female, then I choose a female-male romance it would make me feel soooooo disgusted.

Once you choose a female character, lesbian romance is the only way to go.

You seem to have replied to the wrong post. Nothing you said has anything to do what I wrote.
 

Kyl Von Kull

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How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.
What are the statistics on the percentage of players that are male, and pick a female character, and then romance a female character?

You say 'lots of men' but you're pulling that out of your arse, you have no real data on that.

A quick google search tells me that over 20% of men play as women in World of Warcraft.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku...woman-in-games-and-im-definite-1576592743/amp

Presuming the number is similar in single player games, that’s a sizable chunk of the audience. Most of them are probably straight. I suspect a straight man playing as a woman would prefer a lesbian romance, unless he really likes to get into character.

Point is, there’s a real audience for same-sex romances beyond LGBT+ players. I’m sure most of these developers sincerely believe they’re doing a good thing when they include representation of same-sex relationships, but that’s not how large publicly traded companies make decisions. Somebody at EA, for example, has run the numbers on this and determined that working in some gay sex is a good investment.
 

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How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.
What are the statistics on the percentage of players that are male, and pick a female character, and then romance a female character?

You say 'lots of men' but you're pulling that out of your arse, you have no real data on that.

A quick google search tells me that over 20% of men play as women in World of Warcraft.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku...woman-in-games-and-im-definite-1576592743/amp

Presuming the number is similar in single player games, that’s a sizable chunk of the audience. Most of them are probably straight. I suspect a straight man playing as a woman would prefer a lesbian romance, unless he really likes to get into character.

Point is, there’s a real audience for same-sex romances beyond LGBT+ players. I’m sure most of these developers sincerely believe they’re doing a good thing when they include representation of same-sex relationships, but that’s not how large publicly traded companies make decisions. Somebody at EA, for example, has run the numbers on this and determined that working in some gay sex is a good investment.
But we're not talking about World of Warcraft, an MMO game, we're talking about RPGs, and specifically about RPGs with in-depth romances.

The stats on ME3, for example, show that about 18% of players chose to play as Female Shepard, god knows how many of those were guys, and god knows how many of those guys playing as women then went on to shag a bird in a lesbian romp.

My point is, the stats aren't known.
 

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I play 75% female char especially for games with CC and alot of cosmetics because female chars udually have better aesthethics and outfits than the male. saints row 2 for example, or even monster hunter games.

Otherwise lesbian romance do appeal me,but i can always just look at porn or hentai.

On isometric RPGs dont really carr since you dont see your character too clearly most of the time anyway. So i goes around 50 - 50 depending on my mood.

For example age of decance hsd 6 chars 3 male 3 female, underrail was male, pillars of eternity male, divinity female, etc.II just switch whatever i played the last game is
 

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How many of you have played as a female character? Lots of men do that, and vice versa. Hence the demand for in game same-sex romances. It’s not that complicated. This idea that people only play RPGs as themselves is willfully obtuse.

If you make a female Shepard, say, because you’d prefer to stare at a woman’s ass for the whole game, you’ll probably also prefer lesbian romances. Just like lesbian pornography is very popular with straight men.

If developers really cared about catering to niche audiences, this place wouldn’t be so full of butthurt all the time.
What are the statistics on the percentage of players that are male, and pick a female character, and then romance a female character?

You say 'lots of men' but you're pulling that out of your arse, you have no real data on that.

A quick google search tells me that over 20% of men play as women in World of Warcraft.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku...woman-in-games-and-im-definite-1576592743/amp

Presuming the number is similar in single player games, that’s a sizable chunk of the audience. Most of them are probably straight. I suspect a straight man playing as a woman would prefer a lesbian romance, unless he really likes to get into character.

Point is, there’s a real audience for same-sex romances beyond LGBT+ players. I’m sure most of these developers sincerely believe they’re doing a good thing when they include representation of same-sex relationships, but that’s not how large publicly traded companies make decisions. Somebody at EA, for example, has run the numbers on this and determined that working in some gay sex is a good investment.

My cousin and his wife are big WoW fans and both play it every day, he plays as a female character and she as a male.

Once I came over and they were in a middle of a raid and he messed it up, she was screaming at him things like "You stupid bitch WTF are you doing!" while he just cowered in his chair.

He didnt get dinner that day.
 

Kyl Von Kull

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But we're not talking about World of Warcraft, an MMO game, we're talking about RPGs, and specifically about RPGs with in-depth romances.

The stats on ME3, for example, show that about 18% of players chose to play as Female Shepard, god knows how many of those were guys, and god knows how many of those guys playing as women then went on to shag a bird in a lesbian romp.

My point is, the stats aren't known.

We know that 32% of DA:I players chose female PCs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...y-fans-prefer-to-play-as-male-characters/amp/

There’s also some data suggesting that women are an increasingly large part of the RPG market. I’d take these next numbers with a grain of salt, but they still tell us something:

https://www.pcgamer.com/researchers-find-that-female-pc-gamers-outnumber-males/

If more than half of CRPG players are women, then lots of women are playing as men in Dragon Age.

More importantly, though, my point is that companies like EA do have the data. They don’t have any particular reason to share it with us, but they’re absolutely conducting surveys and focus groups and examining the data they collect from Steam and Sony and Microsoft. It’s not like this stuff is unknowable and they have a powerful incentive to figure out what their customers want.
 

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But we're not talking about World of Warcraft, an MMO game, we're talking about RPGs, and specifically about RPGs with in-depth romances.

The stats on ME3, for example, show that about 18% of players chose to play as Female Shepard, god knows how many of those were guys, and god knows how many of those guys playing as women then went on to shag a bird in a lesbian romp.

My point is, the stats aren't known.

We know that 32% of DA:I players chose female PCs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...y-fans-prefer-to-play-as-male-characters/amp/

There’s also some data suggesting that women are an increasingly large part of the RPG market. I’d take these next numbers with a grain of salt, but they still tell us something:

https://www.pcgamer.com/researchers-find-that-female-pc-gamers-outnumber-males/

If more than half of CRPG players are women, then lots of women are playing as men in Dragon Age.

More importantly, though, my point is that companies like EA do have the data. They don’t have any particular reason to share it with us, but they’re absolutely conducting surveys and focus groups and examining the data they collect from Steam and Sony and Microsoft. It’s not like this stuff is unknowable and they have a powerful incentive to figure out what their customers want.
And how many of those female characters were played by guys, who went on to fuck female NPCs? We don't know those stats.

I don't think for a minute that diversity drives and 50% gay representation is driven by data that big publishers are hiding from us.
 

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Presuming the number is similar in single player games, that’s a sizable chunk of the audience. Most of them are probably straight. I suspect a straight man playing as a woman would prefer a lesbian romance, unless he really likes to get into character.
You can suspect all you want, but the second you claim, you better be prepared with real stats to back it up when questioned instead of using weasel words.
 

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I play 75% female char especially for games with CC and alot of cosmetics because female chars udually have better aesthethics and outfits than the male. saints row 2 for example, or even monster hunter games.

Otherwise lesbian romance do appeal me,but i can always just look at porn or hentai.

On isometric RPGs dont really carr since you dont see your character too clearly most of the time anyway. So i goes around 50 - 50 depending on my mood.

For example age of decance hsd 6 chars 3 male 3 female, underrail was male, pillars of eternity male, divinity female, etc.II just switch whatever i played the last game is

I actually mostly choose female characters when first staring on an isometric RPGs if I have the choice , just to see how the world reacts to a female protagonist. Does it still treat me as a male, or recognise me as female as it should be. It's a good way to test how well thought out the game is.
 
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I play 75% female char especially for games with CC and alot of cosmetics because female chars udually have better aesthethics and outfits than the male. saints row 2 for example, or even monster hunter games.

Otherwise lesbian romance do appeal me,but i can always just look at porn or hentai.

On isometric RPGs dont really carr since you dont see your character too clearly most of the time anyway. So i goes around 50 - 50 depending on my mood.

For example age of decance hsd 6 chars 3 male 3 female, underrail was male, pillars of eternity male, divinity female, etc.II just switch whatever i played the last game is

I actually mostly choose female characters when first staring on an isometric RPGs if I have the choice , just to see how the world reacts to a female protagonist. Does it still treat me as a male, or recognise me as female as it should be. It's a good way to test how well thought out the game is.
I sometimes do the exact same thing for the same reason. If it still calls male it tells me something about the game. If it recognizes me as female and/or even has different game play options based on gender, I consider that incline....so long as its not too over the top or obvious pandering akin to a United Colors of Bennington ad..
 

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different game play options based on gender
Like what?
sleeping with benny and smother him with pillow in his sleep in new vegas

In oblivion with the quest with female bandit, isntead of pretending being a victim, you get to join and catch them in the act.

A whole quest becoming a stripper questline that ties to a serial killer quest in fallout: nevada mod.

I think fallout 1 and 2 has alot of small differences too in this case, so are all troika games.

ATOM rpg has female PC as a stretch goal and devs promised female char will allow some alternative solution, dialogues and quests.
 

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sleeping with benny and smother him with pillow in his sleep in new vegas

In oblivion with the quest with female bandit, isntead of pretending being a victim, you get to join and catch them in the act.

A whole quest becoming a stripper questline that ties to a serial killer quest in fallout: nevada mod.

I think fallout 1 and 2 has alot of small differences too in this case, so are all troika games.

ATOM rpg has female PC as a stretch goal and devs promised female char will allow some alternative solution, dialogues and quests.
Wow, I'm beginning to think gaming might really be sexist after all :lol:
BTW, in Fallout 2 you can get various discounts and shortcut sidequests by sleeping with shop vendors and quest NPCs. I can't remember specific instances though. And I've never done it myself, thought it was too denigrating.
 

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Fallout 2 is interesting in that way, one of the few games where it has such "options" available that one really has to think whether they want to pursue them or not.

Even if it is really a minor thing with little to no consequence.
 

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I wouldn't object to such options on "moral" grounds. I imagine back then it took some spine to insert them. But I don't know about ingame negative consequences which might serve some didactic purpose - like getting a "village whore" reputation or perk.

I do remember you could catch STD in Fallout 2, but not sure if this wasn't for male characters only.
 

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