KickStarter Hero-U: Rogue to Redemption - adventure-RPG from the creators of Quest for Glory

[MRY]

If that figure is right, does that mean they spent $1.2M on top of the Kickstarter ~$600k?

 

[fantadomat]

Freezing time helped only with the perception,lockpicking and a little bit of magic.

Which means you had a few additional hours for fighting and training combat. Plus you're forgetting that exploring and moving around takes time too, if it's not frozen - which means engaging in fewer battles per day than you did. Normally, between the elective and the exploring most of the mid-game I didin't have a lot of time to train at all, and when I did it all went into lockpicking since area progress is tied to it.

That is a fundamental problem of the game,exploring is great without a time.

If that figure is right, does that mean they spent $1.2M on top of the Kickstarter ~$600k?

LoL have no idea where the money went,nothing in the game is worth 2 millions.

 

[V_K]

If that figure is right, does that mean they spent $1.2M on top of the Kickstarter ~$600k?

The way I interpret his post, it's what they need to break even and have enough to make a sequel. And then you're forgetting the Steam share and Kickstarter share. I'd say they probably spent around 800k to a mil on Hero-U in total.

 

[MRY]

Steam takes 30%. $35x50kx70% is about $1.2M. I believe KS and PayPal are like 10% total, so add to that another $450k or so. Strong budget.

I don’t think it’s factoring next game because they also said: “If we had priced Hero-U: Rogue to Redemption at $10 or $15 - and yes, we considered it - this would be a one-and-done game with no sequels. We would have to sell 200K copies just to pay off our development costs and provide a down-payment on the next game.”

200k@$10=$1.4M after Steam cut. So I gather $1.2M to break even, $200k “downpayment” on next game? (Since they think of game development in mortgage terms, I assume a “downpayment” would be 10-20% of total budget. If a sequel in same engine would run $1-2M, I’m guessing the first game was near high end of that range? Quality costs.)

 

[Lhynn]

fantadomat how do you even stop time?

 

[V_K]

Steam takes 30%. $35x50kx70% is about $1.2M. I believe KS and PayPal are like 10% total, so add to that another $450k or so. Strong budget.

Well, this figure might also include the cost of kickstarter rewards (I really hope it does).

 

[fantadomat]

fantadomat how do you even stop time?

With cheatengine,you just check the minutes number a few times until it is just one and then edit it and freeze it.

Here is a chart if anyone is interested and too lazy to do it themself.

PS:I didn't make it so glory to the guy that made it .

https://fearlessrevolution.com/threads/hero-u-rogue-to-redemption.7417/

 

[Blackthorne]

A typically thoughtful and friendly post from the Coles: https://steamcommunity.com/app/375440/discussions/0/1728701877526742940/?tscn=1531676197

Yeah, I hope they can get 50,000 sales at $35. It can be a tough sell to the audience that would play the game. But he's right on some accounts, pricing it too low can put you out, especially given their production cost. We launched QFI at $19.99, which I wasn't keen on - I was comfortable at launching $14.99, but the publisher we had working with us said we could charge $20. You can always speculate in hindsight, I suppose, but I wish we'd sold it at $14.99

I do hope this can sell enough to do more.


Bt

 

[MRY]

I feel like 15/25/35 are awkward pricepoints. Not sure that’s true for other consumers but I’m more used to 9.99/19.99/39.99.

 

[Delterius]

I do hope this can sell enough to do more.

What? That's in the cards now? I thought we were all contributing to save them from their fifteenth mortgage.

 

[MRY]

Hit 204 simultaneous players this weekend, and that's without the massive press push that's coming. Not too shabby at all.

Corey Cole ... says they're receiving about 50 press review code requests per day

Crud, I found the post and it turns out it's "about 50 press and curator key requests a day." I hope it's not one of these: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/5cy0jt/heres_what_a_steam_key_scam_looks_like/

 

[you know what time it is]

Them puns tho, why, just why?

 

[fantadomat]

Them puns tho, why, just why?

WTF?!?! You read that drivel??? I just read the character dialogues all the rest is useless drivel. It is really stupid how many pointless interaction they had made for the game only to say some stupid line. Like take fireplace or steal fireplace....

 

[fantadomat]

LoL just fucking LOL!!!!

Spoiler

The only proper woman and it is hidden...

If i only knew i wouldn't have wasted my time on the retarded feminist pirate bitch.

PS:It is not a fucking tranny,just diversion.

 

[MRY]

Hit 204 simultaneous players this weekend, and that's without the massive press push that's coming. Not too shabby at all.

Corey Cole ... says they're receiving about 50 press review code requests per day

Crud, I found the post and it turns out it's "about 50 press and curator key requests a day." I hope it's not one of these: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/5cy0jt/heres_what_a_steam_key_scam_looks_like/

Sigh: https://www.kinguin.net/category/52955/hero-u-rogue-to-redemption-steam-cd-key/

Poor Coles. I hope they don't hire a "game marketing firm" next. :/

 

[fantadomat]

Fuck i am butthurt now,fuck you and fuck your stupid game!!!!

I did all the retarded tests,did all the events and saved the retarded shitty school,stole from the weaselly faggot for the teacher and tolerated all the self righteous bullshit! Ooooh i will be becoming thieve and will fuck you up you whiny bitch of a teacher,couldn't even take a single joke on the final test! FUCK OFF CUNT!!!!

 

[fantadomat]

Ohhh gods just "finished" that retarded game,the ending is the the most retarded shit i have seen in my life. Just fuck off!!! Maybe those people should try opening a bakery instead of making games. Fuck that shit,even ME3 didn't had such a shitty ending. I will now tell you about it,be warned spoilers!

Spoiler

Just fuck that shit in every hole that it have. Soo i continued to play the game even after that joke that took away the trophy of "Rogue of the year". I was all "Don't care about that shit,let just finish the game." So here i am at the point of getting the Raven statue and having an option. So i was all ok lets try different things. I given the statue to my uncle and decided to become a thief king first,oh well fuck you some horror comes out from the castle and kills us all because the game have to make that choice for us even if my protagonist have max useless skills. I am all "Uhgg ok that is a shit ending lets try something else.". I run with the statue and go next day to school to see who gets the retarded award. Everyone there says how good i am and how much i have help them with their life and how i am BFF with everyone in the school,everyone nominates me. And i decide to try out another thing,proclaim my self as a thieve king,mock everyone and flip the teacher.....well as a reward for my skills i get shanked in a dark alley by a pretender that wants to be the king. I am all "LoL that is retarded,this game keeps on giving shit!". So i finally try to be a good goy and take it seriously.....well the teacher flips out that i am a shitty person because i fucked up the last test and i am clearly and evil thieve. A writing comes up saying that all actions have consequences....you know like saving and helping all the people in the castle and being their friend,nah making a joke answer on a retarded objectified test is far more important. Then the game tells me load and try again as if the game makes different autosaves every day and hits at you that it is a good idea to have different saves....yeah no,my save game from 5 game days ago is gone. Sooo what is the ending....well the same as the last one,get shanked in a dark alley for the statue.

I was all about middle passing grade for the game until i got to the ending. Now it feels like pure shit not worth my time,won't be playing another game by those people. I put up with all the tedium like the slow moving,even slower combat,endless repetition of same environment,retarded puns and pointless interactions and endless grind for useless skills. I was just expecting a decent ending to all the interesting side stories and the characters interaction. I didn't expected that getting the wrong answer on a test could have such retarded consequences. And yes the skillz are pretty much useless,you use only once the climbing skill,never use throwing one,magic doesn't make any difference when it come to the number,moxy i never used,luck didn't had any effect on the game in any way and i checked, Charm could be said that was useful,combat defence tool use and fitness were the only useful ones.

I would recommend for people to watch an hour or two of the gameplay loop and if they get bored to not buy the game. There are a lot better adventure games out there,Quest for Infamy,Heroin quest,A Tale of Two Kingdoms and a few other. The game lacks a lot of things and it is incredibly repetitive....MMO levels of grind. Still the character writing,side stories and the first two dungeons were interesting.

 

[jfrisby]

yeah no,my save game from 5 game days ago is gone

 

[V_K]

Maybe the game just noticed that you cheated on timer

you use only once the climbing skill

Twice - the ladder to gazebo and in sea caves. I think the latter one might be avoidable if you kill the serpent, but I didn't check it.

never use throwing one

Not true. First, throwing is a combat skill. Second, there is one check for it in the sea caves (though might be avoidable as well).

 

[fantadomat]

Maybe the game just noticed that you cheated on timer

Nah,if they were able to do such coding work they would have made a lot better combat.

the ladder to gazebo

LoL i never knew that they were teaching climbing for retards. I can climb a fucking ladder. Oh also you use climbing for the transition screens between different levels,i go climbing level ups a few time between the training area and the dorm.

Also i killed the serpent and it dropped a really good weapon,use it till the end of the game. Oh and the dagger that i got from the rat queen is useless because you don't get a chance to use it.

 

[fantadomat]

yeah no,my save game from 5 game days ago is gone

I have played the older games,don't get what you are implying mate. I did have saves but never imagined that a joke answer from 5 days ago will kill you. That is just retarded game design. Also days are not like QFG games,they are a lot slower and tedious.

 

[NotAGolfer]

Thx for the review, V_K
Will buy based on that.
It better be good. I will blame you personally if not.

Spoiler

edit:
God, what an awful lot of awful puns.
Right up my alley.

... And my first game over, that cat was my undoing indeed.

 

[V_K]

Nah,if they were able to do such coding work they would have made a lot better combat

I wouldn't be so sure. Bloodlines notices if you cheated on character creation, and we all know just how awesome combat in that game is.

 

[fantadomat]

Nah,if they were able to do such coding work they would have made a lot better combat

I wouldn't be so sure. Bloodlines notices if you cheated on character creation, and we all know just how awesome combat in that game is.

How does it notice?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Nah,if they were able to do such coding work they would have made a lot better combat

I wouldn't be so sure. Bloodlines notices if you cheated on character creation, and we all know just how awesome combat in that game is.

How does it notice?

If you happen to have maxed out stats after character creation(which is possible on new game+) Smilin' Jack will cuss you up about it.