Incline The Second Video Game Crash.

[Humanity has risen!]

SJWs won't contribute to anything, they are a tiny, tiny vocal minority. Money always speaks louder than anything.

 

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

This recession is known as the Great North American Video Game Crash.

It was an USA-exclusive console game crash that allowed personal computers (and I don't mean IBM-compatibles) to shine, not some DA WHOLE MARKET IS DOOMED thing that you're expecting to happen now or soon.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

If loot boxes and streamer culture/idolization died a gory death, it'd be wonderful. Those two things are ugly split-ends that need to be cut off.

 

[DragoFireheart]

And we will be vindicated at last.
Anyway, I envy your optimism that Joe Consumer will get smart. The lie that old games become obsolete is perpetuated so often that I don't see the mainstream audience challenging it any time soon.

Consumer Joe will not get smart, they'll just find something else to do.

SJWs won't contribute to anything, they are a tiny, tiny vocal minority. Money always speaks louder than anything.

Don't be so eager to dismiss them: you should hope for them to contribute to EA and Disney going bankrupt.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

few things would make me happier than to see the hobby return to its roots and shed the bloated AAA budgets, the hype-train horseshit and the casualization but I'm not sure video games would bounce back from a second crash

 

[Vorark]

The Japanese market during the last decade was in a pretty bad shape. They couldn't make it into HD development and basically had to hold on to portables in order to get by. Just compare the releases on the PS2 to the ones on PS3, it was abysmal. I'm glad they seem to have gotten their shit together and are making a coming back.

Now, the AAAAAAAA western market? This is something I'd like to see crash'n'burn or, at the very least, fade out for a while. I believe in time it will.

 

[Strange Fellow]

And we will be vindicated at last.
Anyway, I envy your optimism that Joe Consumer will get smart. The lie that old games become obsolete is perpetuated so often that I don't see the mainstream audience challenging it any time soon.

Consumer Joe will not get smart, they'll just find something else to do.

He'd need a reason first. This is the point at which we need to ask ourselves: How shitty could video games possibly become, and will it be enough? I'm not so sure it will.

 

[abnaxus]

My dad broke my Famicom.

 

[DragoFireheart]

He'd need a reason first. This is the point at which we need to ask ourselves: How shitty could video games possibly become, and will it be enough? I'm not so sure it will.

We only need look at the mobile market for hints on how shitty games can become.

 

[Shog-goth]

1983 was already the second video game crash. First was in 1977, "rescued" by Space Invaders in 1978.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

I keep asking myself, how can the plebs keep playing Ubisoft and EA games, when they are so horrifyingly mindless and boring? How can they shell out hard earned money on Bethesda and Bioware RPGs which are so badly designed? And yet they do. Time after time.

Who keeps placing micro-transactions in all these retarded mobile pseudo-games? Buying lootboxes? Who keeps playing the endless procession of multiplayer survival games where there is no point whatsoever beyond griefing? Well, apparently a lot of people.

The decline is upon us, stronger than ever. The only hope is the niche.

 

[Ash]

There will never be another crash. The industry is stronger than ever (bigger than Hollywood), and there's more retards to lap up the shit it excretes than ever.

 

[Jason Liang]

There were specific stupid shit that lead to the 1983 crash.

This is an interview with Bill Kunkel about the 1983 crash:

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/98437/Playing_CatchUp_Bill_The_Game_Doctor_Kunkel_Lets_Loose.php

"There were a lot of factors to the crash," Kunkel told Gamasutra, "we tend to simplify it these days." Most will remember the oversaturation of the market, pointing fingers at the piles of less-than-desirable titles sitting unsold in shops. And, of course, there was the overabundance of video game consoles, with the Atari's new line directly competing against their own 2600. Most, Kunkel says, tend to forget that even the arcade industry was collapsing at the time.

"They got suckered into laserdisc games," said Kunkel, referring to games such as Dragon's Lair, which were little more than streaming videos and tests of memorization. "At first it spread out the business and helped them," he said, "but pretty soon - with the high cost of the machines, and players figuring out that they weren't all that great - you had arcades all over the country sending back the machines. It basically transformed the arcade industry from one that had the best developers, the most original ideas, best graphics and presentation for every game, into glorified networks of home video game systems, because they were all kits. They were buying the one cabinet, and when a new game came out, they'd slide in a new title, new art, new board... the Neo Geo thing."

"I think a lot of people believed that video games had served their purpose, that they had been the foot in the door that enabled us to get on the computer and do really serious, important things. We went through a period near the end of our run where we were told by the publisher and the last saleswoman we had that we should avoid using terms like 'games' and 'fun' in our copy. It wasn't a game, it was a simulation."

 

[forumvisitor#451]

“One day the water’s gonna wash it away
Nothing clever to say, one day”

 

[DalekFlay]

The industry is thriving and will continue to do so. Look at EA's Ubisoft's or Activison's financial reports, there is no evidence whatsoever that suggest there is a crash coming soon. Sure doom saying is fun but it's the figures just do not support it.

Yeah, lots of kings of wishful thinking in here. The large corporations are finding tremendous success with "games as a service" platforms and repeating franchises while smaller companies and indies are finding enough success serving niches to get by and risk further development. I don't see anything changing that in the near or even long-term future. If anything I see all that growing larger.

Also I will never understand the whining about "endless trash on Steam!!!" The front page is all curated and I never see that shit, plus there are SO many websites to go to for curated news and release information (like RPG Codex for example!) it's really not an issue.

 

[AscendedFlames]

SJWs won't contribute to anything, they are a tiny, tiny vocal minority. Money always speaks louder than anything.

I keep reading his, yet I see small amount of increments in their influence, this of course varies. The example that comes to mind is the God of War trophy issue, there are many out there that still happen from time to time, but it is something that shouldn't be turned a blind eye into. This is a great read if you have the time.


https://medium.com/incerto/the-most...ctatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

 

[DakaSha V]

your "theory" is uneducated garbage retardation, and a perfect example of why I should be given the ability to retardo posts

 

[DalekFlay]

SJWs won't contribute to anything, they are a tiny, tiny vocal minority. Money always speaks louder than anything.

I keep reading his, yet I see small amount of increments in their influence, this of course varies. The example that comes to mind is the God of War trophy issue, there are many out there that still happen from time to time, but it is something that shouldn't be turned a blind eye into. This is a great read if you have the time.

"SJW" types can make small impacts like pushing for a female Assassin's Creed option or whatever, but I don't see them changing gaming in general. It's not like sexy babes and shooting people in the face have dwindled over the years in gaming. All these companies, not just in games but movies and whatnot as well, pay these social movements some lip service and toss them minor wins to keep them happy. At the end of the day though they go with what sells predominantly, which was Humanty's point.

Note that what sells is often VERY social movement friendly though, like Black Panther.

 

[Higher Animal]

Video gaming is like rap, romance, and opera. It went through a golden age and now that will never come back.

People make money in video games because they create a compelling online experience that functions like a casino for teenagers. Mobile, Single Player, Casual, MMO, Fancy controls, all are gone now. All that matters is creating a compelling multiplayer arena with microtransactions. That is video gaming. Playing anything else is visiting a museum.

 

[RNGsus]

All vidya are becoming so alike as to be undifferentiated. We are in the midst of a great convergence of the AAAs, and only one publisher can outlast them all. AAs and As shall be swallowed up in the holocaust to their dark publishers. The kickstarters shall be plundered by old frauds. Gamers will look there and about again for salvation, and find none. Repent, god damn you!

 

[Edward The Mediocre]

For fucks sake's the vidga game crash was a regional crash. With the exception of japs the majority of devs don't just rely on just one region for their sales. Also if you think that a crash will purge the shitty publishers like EA or activision, consider this.

Spoiler

Both of them survived the game crash.

 

[Nano]

For fucks sake's the vidga game crash was a regional crash

It was a console-only crash too. The crash led to computers being seen as a legitimate gaming platform in the US.

 

[Nathir]

Tfw when you can't give out a retadred rating

 

[Machocruz]

But to suggest a crash? What are people that play games going to do instead? Buy jump ropes and hula-hoops and go outside? Ludicrous.

They could, might even be good for them. But they won't. Alot of people today can't entertain themselves or are too lazy to do anything physical. They need entertainment products to sit in front of. I could go grab some paints and occupy myself with that all day, write, go for a walk, ride bike, etc. I remember talking to someone who believed that he had a right to pirate games because humans need entertainment and he was too low income to buy new games all the time. I asked him why not do something that hardly cost anything, like draw or go to get a basketball (can play at cheap indoor gyms in bad weather), or read at the library. Maybe something that would build him a skill or result in products he could sell. He looked at me like I was speaking a lost language.

Yeah video games are huge now. They are pretty much the go to for young guys' free time. They are even the fall back for when dating isn't working out, as you'll see in any MGTOW discussion. This form of entertainment isn't failing anytime soon.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Only when the sun blasts the earth to a crisp will the next crash occur. People are too addicted to the stupidest shit for there to be a crash again. Maybe destroying all emulation sites and DRM sites might contribute (Nintendo would have to be a fucking retard to hope that).

I thought table top rpgs would crash and burn but they still plug along like a virus in happy land.

Only the remake of


Will end all gaming. We can’t handle the 80s again no matter what anyone believes. 80s once... awesome. Remake it; oh hell no!