Eternity Obsidian willing to pimp out Pillars of Eternity like the cheap whore it is.

[Sacred82]

FR/ Greyhawk bullshit

Equating FR with Greyhawk. 'Tard detected.

I'm not equating them, I'm saying they're both shit. Try harder, fuckwit.

 

[Lilura]

I'm not equating them, I'm saying they're both shit. Try harder, fuckwit.

I see how you got your dumbfuck tag; you just equated them again. I'm going to equate you with the PoE setting: you are both shit.

Literally anyone, even perhaps someone as lowly as you, could create a setting on the level of PoE. Literally anyone could write its plot and characters. As someone said before, it's a hackwork on hackworks which are themselves hackworks.

Greyhawk, doubtful. The dungeons alone are unequaled masterpieces (and the setting itself stems from dungeons - how monocled can a campaign setting's origin be?). Also, 40 years of development history is difficult to replicate.

It's fucking disgusting that you would compare PoE to Greyhawk; in any way favorably. That makes you not only the dumbest fuck I have ever seen on the 'Dex, but also the most ridiculous looking edgelord, too.

Just.. stop. You have already humilated yourself more than I ever thought possible.

 

[Sacred82]

I'm not equating them, I'm saying they're both shit. Try harder, fuckwit.

I see how you got your dumbfuck tag; you just equated them again.

Yes, you can see that because you're a prime Kodex dumbfuck. The dimwitted in this world always call those retarded who they can recognize aren't of their kind

I've called them both shit citing a property they both share.

"Two things share one property, that means they're equal". Kodex dumbfuck logic 101.

I'm going to equate you with the PoE setting: you are both shit.

Literally anyone, even perhaps someone as lowly as you, could create a setting on the level of PoE. Literally anyone could write its plot and characters. As someone said before, it's a hackwork on hackworks which are themselves hackworks.

Greyhawk, doubtful. The dungeons alone are unequaled masterpieces (and the setting itself stems from dungeons - how monocled can a campaign setting's origin be?). Also, 40 years of development history is difficult to replicate.

It's fucking disgusting that you would compare PoE to Greyhawk; in any way favorably. That makes you not only the dumbest fuck I have ever seen on the 'Dex, but also the most ridiculous looking edgelord, too.

Just.. stop. You have already humilated yourself more than I ever thought possible.

"Literally anyone could write anything". My, you are a shining beacon of logical thinking. Might I substitute "as long as they're literate"?

Question, my dear internet tough gal. Have you ever written dialogue? Can we see some of your work? Or is it just too good for the ignorant masses, so you're keeping all of that in your nightstand next to your diary of unfulfilled aspirations and spare batteries?

"Man, DnD has been around for decades. It has to be THAT GOOD"

PoE's setting is shit because writing and then you're praising dungeons. You seem very confused. We don't need to mention you dodged my original point and the reason I've cited why I think they're both ridiculous settings, do we?

Maybe get your head out of your ass, it got stuck in there with the dragonballs and anal beads.

 

[Strange Fellow]

FR is cool and serves its purpose well, pretentious fucks

 

[Quillon]

Literally anyone, even perhaps someone as lowly as you, could create a setting on the level of PoE. Literally anyone could write its plot and characters.

It ain't easy doing the shit as calling it shit, yo. Grandmaster level prestigiousness right here, even Lacrymas has a lot to learn from you

As someone said before, it's a hackwork on hackworks which are themselves hackworks.

And people here shitting on PoE for it not being enough of a hackwork, Obs can't win over codex no matter what, they should have kickstarted spiritual Fallout successor instead of PoE :D At least a Fallout SS would have been TB, which is half way through Codexia's heart.

 

[Neanderthal]

Greyhawk was of real mixed quality, compare the first Castle Greyhawk mod with the Greyhawk living city mod, one shit and wacky, the other a masterpiece of world building.

Course implementation is the thing and a good GM could make or break a game or campaign.

Plus Greyhawk was a little more grounded and low level than FR, drawing a lot of inspiration from the SCA as it did. Politics, war and such had more of a hand in the Flannaes than the usual roster of cataclysms, God killing and epic crap.

If anybodies interested in the setting I'd recommend the Greyhawk City box, and the Falcon trilogy of adventures as a starting point, perhaps leading into the Greyhawk Wars stuff.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

citing a hypothetical Pillars of Eternity tactics-based game as an idea that Obsidian might not have the interest in or means to produce itself.

So Feargus is still stubbornly refusing to make a turn-based game when Deadfire is struggling (still sitting somewhere in the 100-200k range), while the likes of Darkest Dungeon and Divinity: Original Sin sell millions of copies.

Feargus will never allow anyone at Obsidian to make a turn-based game. Even if it would save them from the brink of destruction. He probably hates turn-based games.

Fergus has like 1000 hours in Xcom.

 

[lophiaspis]

Fergus has like 1000 hours in Xcom.

And how many in X-Com?

 

[Quillon]

citing a hypothetical Pillars of Eternity tactics-based game as an idea that Obsidian might not have the interest in or means to produce itself.

So Feargus is still stubbornly refusing to make a turn-based game when Deadfire is struggling (still sitting somewhere in the 100-200k range), while the likes of Darkest Dungeon and Divinity: Original Sin sell millions of copies.

Feargus will never allow anyone at Obsidian to make a turn-based game. Even if it would save them from the brink of destruction. He probably hates turn-based games.

Fergus has like 1000 hours in Xcom.

Feargus said he'd like to make an RPG with Xcombat in Deadfire's figstarter comments.

And I've been playing WOTC for the last couple of weeks, its awesome. First I played Xcom 2, awesome weeks, then LW2 even better now WOTC even betterer Prolly they are making a LW mod for WOTC too, I'm sure it'll be even bettererer!

 

[AwesomeButton]

If we take this thinking to the extreme, the very creation of PnP fantasy RPGs is the equivalent of someone throwing an empty coke bottle out of a plane and a tribe of pygmies starting to worship it as a gift from the gods.

In other words - manage your expectations when you try to retroactively prove someone pursued high artistic standards when they were writing something in their basement for the amusement of friends.

 

[fantadomat]

They are trying to be D&D.

 

[Quillon]

They are trying to be D&D.

They are trying to be dumb & dumber?

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Well sadly the setting of POE lacks a thing a great setting must have: Charisma,Soul and original identity.

 

[Quillon]

Well sadly the setting of POE lacks a thing a great setting must have: Charisma,Soul and original identity.

It has too much soul, yo!

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Greyhawk was of real mixed quality, compare the first Castle Greyhawk mod with the Greyhawk living city mod, one shit and wacky, the other a masterpiece of world building.

If you're thinking of WG7 Castle Greyhawk, that was written not too long after Gary Gygax was forced to leave TSR, and apparently the people who worked on that module were having fun at Gygax's expense. However, there was a later adventure module WGR1 Greyhawk Ruins, which was a serious attempt at a Castle Greyhawk megadungeon.

Anyway, Greyhawk had two campaign setting materials released --- the 50-page World of Greyhawk folio in 1980 and the 150-page World of Greyhawk box set in 1983 --- even before TSR shifted its overall focus towards campaign settings in 1987. These detailed the setting's various countries, with only passing mentions of Castle Greyhawk.

 

[AwesomeButton]

This is horny teen fanfic level of bad.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Well sadly the setting of POE lacks a thing a great setting must have: Charisma,Soul and original identity.

And other basic essentials, like a definitive map of the world.

 

[Sacred82]

the euphemism is what makes it bad. That and Mary Sueism, in this case a monk and priest with a tough gal act.

 

[Neanderthal]

Greyhawk was of real mixed quality, compare the first Castle Greyhawk mod with the Greyhawk living city mod, one shit and wacky, the other a masterpiece of world building.

If you're thinking of WG7 Castle Greyhawk, that was written not too long after Gary Gygax was forced to leave TSR, and apparently the people who worked on that module were having fun at Gygax's expense. However, there was a later adventure module WGR1 Greyhawk Ruins, which was a serious attempt at a Castle Greyhawk megadungeon.

Anyway, Greyhawk had two campaign setting materials released --- the 50-page World of Greyhawk folio in 1980 and the 150-page World of Greyhawk box set in 1983 --- even before TSR shifted its overall focus towards campaign settings in 1987. These detailed the setting's various countries, with only passing mentions of Castle Greyhawk.

Yes I was referencing the first Castle Greyhawk, the second one I had no problems with.

Greyhawk had three campaign setting boxes/books made however, you're forgetting From the Ashes, which personally I found a bit more in depth and less nebulous than the previous two.

 

[Ranarama]

FR is cool and serves its purpose well, pretentious fucks

Selling splatbooks and bad novels?

 

[Strange Fellow]

FR is cool and serves its purpose well, pretentious fucks

Selling splatbooks and bad novels?

Haha.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Greyhawk had three campaign setting boxes/books made however, you're forgetting From the Ashes, which personally I found a bit more in depth and less nebulous than the previous two.

I was referring to the two early ones before TSR committed to producing copious quantities of setting materials. After that point, TSR released the Greyhawk Adventures hardcover in 1988 and then the From the Ashes box set in 1992 before discontinuing Greyhawk as a product line.

 

[santino27]

This is horny teen fanfic level of bad.

Only partway through the game, but I hate everything about that character so much

 

[Abu Antar]

This is horny teen fanfic level of bad.

Only partway through the game, but I hate everything about that character so much

Just swap her out. I found her to be useful in combat, but as soon as I got her quest off of my check-list, to the boat she went.

 

[santino27]

This is horny teen fanfic level of bad.

Only partway through the game, but I hate everything about that character so much

Just swap her out. I found her to be useful in combat, but as soon as I got her quest off of my check-list, to the boat she went.

When the patch hits, I will. Going to replace her with Fassina of the eternally slumped posture (wtf), specced as a druid/wiz, or a custom char.