Arkane I don't like RPGs anymore

[Humanity has risen!]

The problem is all the fags who wanted to "take RPG design to the next level" (of gayness).

NOTHING needed to change in the first place. Old-school blobbers and Gold Box games were 100% fine, they just needed cleaner graphics and interfaces.

GB games were not fine*; they lacked variety, character customization and monster AI. But if you miss the GB games there hundreds of FRUA modules to play.
Blobbers were fine but degenerated into casual games like MM3-5 and single character games like Anvil of Dawn.

It's obvious I was saying that the template of those games was good. Pure game play, no hand holding, no "cinematic story".

I'm not interested in a game designer's pseudo-philosophical ramblings. Write a book and leave us the hell alone.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Trying to survive in a difficult dungeon never gets old.

What does get old real fast however is pretentious drivel.

 

[Citizen]

Where's Prosper's gaym?

It's coming, check discord. Soon RPGs will change.

 

[Abu Antar]

Where's Prosper's gaym?

 

[RNGsus]

Where's Prosper's gaym?

It's coming, check discord. Soon RPGs will change.

I see it now.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Where's Prosper's gaym?

Looks better than Shrouds of the Avatar.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Fortunately the turn based tactical/strategy/operational art of war games have Renaissance now. As for RPGs they are trash today but they are made for millennialls fags so what you can expect Comrades; still enough of East European/Japanese/indy games to play with if you are not easily offended and graphic whore of course.

 

[Chippy]

You can't just play RPGs exclusively and expect to not ever burnout like a retard. You need to mix it up a bit. I play a strategy or RTS after every other RPG - go and play the Total War and Warhammer games, or the RTS games that are feather weight RPGs - like Warhammer: Mark of Chaos, Chaos March (flawed genius, best orc lingo so far). Pick up a classic like Synidicte/Wars from GOG.
I'd rather play a good strategy game like Shogun:Total War 2 than suffer permanent brain damage from playing RPGs like POE or SOD. Pick up Shadow of Mordor in a sale or the Batman games, even the Transformer games were worth buying in a sale (1&2) and playing once if you were a kid in the 1980s for the lore alone.
Playing a shit RPG is damaging both pysically and mentally (I imagine) it's like fucking a sex doll in the likeness of a pornstar. Although considering the buyers remorse I have over putting $1000 dollars each into POE,W2, and TTON, I sometimes wonder if I would have been better of with the top of the range sex doll.
I hear they do a Lara Croft one. Or Liara and Tali from Mass Effect.

...See? That's what playing POE for a few hours did to me...

 

[Citizen]

I see it now.

There's another one. With writing leaks and stuff.

Warhammer: Mark of Chaos

:NotSureIfSerious:

 

[Bohrain]

We were always in war with RPG's.

 

[Father Foreskin]

I feel that Ravenloft: Stone Prophet was vastly superior to Anvil of Dawn. At the time, Stone Prophet was a great game, and the Egyptian atmosphere, they nailed it. In 1999, Anvil of Dawn was playable, however.

I remember championing for stone prophet here as well. Its an unappreciated gem. 10 years ago it was quite a mess to get it running properly. Other than that, its fucking great. Would not touch the other Ravenloft games again, especially the first one.

 

[makchanka]

Oh god the dialog. Would you really put it in league with FO1 and Vampire the Masquerade? Is there anything in the way of c&c?

And this, gentlemen, is why RPGs turned into shit.

You're right. We should all be playing Diablo 3 clones that have been run through google translate fifteen times. Now that would be quality.

Seriously though, the writing in ToEE was even worse than the "Ho, yon adventurers! Prithee, let me regale you with a tale of ye olde gaye rightes, and how the Orcpublicans are destroying our fair land. Also, here is a choice between murdering everyone and saving a baby from the rape skeletons" shit that you get from stuff like modern bioware.

 

[abnaxus]

I'm just waiting for ELEX 2 and Grimoire 2.

 

[fantadomat]

Oh god the dialog. Would you really put it in league with FO1 and Vampire the Masquerade? Is there anything in the way of c&c?

And this, gentlemen, is why RPGs turned into shit.

You're right. We should all be playing Diablo 3 clones that have been run through google translate fifteen times. Now that would be quality.

Are there any Diablo 3 clones? From what i have heard the game is pretty shit.

 

[makchanka]

I tried the Diablo 3 demo, and yes, it was horrible. They actually found a way to dumb down 2, believe it or not.

 

[fantadomat]

I tried the Diablo 3 demo, and yes, it was horrible. They actually found a way to dumb down 2, believe it or not.

That is impressive. Diablo 2 was fun retarded game,i still remember going to the local club with a disk/floppy and stealing other people's character,thus stealing their loot.

 

[RNGsus]

Oh god the dialog. Would you really put it in league with FO1 and Vampire the Masquerade? Is there anything in the way of c&c?

And this, gentlemen, is why RPGs turned into shit.

You're right. We should all be playing Diablo 3 clones that have been run through google translate fifteen times. Now that would be quality.

Seriously though, the writing in ToEE was even worse than the "Ho, yon adventurers! Prithee, let me regale you with a tale of ye olde gaye rightes, and how the Orcpublicans are destroying our fair land. Also, here is a choice between murdering everyone and saving a baby from the rape skeletons" shit that you get from stuff like modern bioware.

Don't travel to England, that's how they talk over there.

 

[Invictus]

We all get kind of burnt out on RPGs from time to time, so just mix it up; play some Metal Gear 5, a Civ game, try an Uncharted game, replay one of your favorites or simply do like me and replay for the 15th time a Stalker game with the latest mod or try a crazy build in Dark Souls

Mods seems to be very fun, both for the changes to an old favorite or simply spending hours trying crazy shit

I find that 95% of the modern games are simply not very interesting to me so maybe just do something else until tou get the itch to play a favorite or a game you had on your backlog, I bet something like New Vegas, Blooodlines, Planescape Torment or Thief will have you out of your funk in no time

 

[Lilura]

The problem is all the fags who wanted to "take RPG design to the next level" (of gayness).

NOTHING needed to change in the first place. Old-school blobbers and Gold Box games were 100% fine, they just needed cleaner graphics and interfaces.

The actual truth is that nothing needed to change after Jagged Alliance 2 (1999).

Elegant isometric perspective, turn-based tactical combat, seemlessly integrated strat-layer, largely non-linear narration and exploration, destructible buildings, decent physics, massive squad pool, reactivity, personality, humor etc.

All devs needed to do was keep making this sort of game, with enlarged visual assets and refactored UI for ever-increasing display resolutions.

The problem is, they lacked the intelligence and talent. Note how RPG devs rarely talk about Jagged Alliance 2? It's because it makes them look like a bunch of incompetents.

They took one look at JA2 and said "We can't make something like that in a million years. Let's keep making shitty RTwP fantasy RPGs, 3d openworld garbage, and assorted indie trash."

 

[commie]

Sorry guys, I'm drunk.
The alcoholic stupor has unlocked a realization: I don't like RPGs anymore.

What's even the state of "RPGs" nowadays?
Gay romances? WTF? Or even straight romances?
And every other article on the Codex being about Sawyer?!?!?!?
THAT'S what RPGs are about?
I'm sorry, where's the freaking GAME in all that?
No wonder I'm playing completely different stuff nowadays.

I can still play blobbers or Skyrim, of course. Simplistic as they are, there are no retarded banters nor retarded "balancing", and you can have fun playing around with your builds. Or better yet, switch genre and play a tactical or whatever.
End or rant, going to sleep.

Cheers. It's the alchol, I swear, allow me ONE retarded thread after years of honorable service.

In order to decide whether you like RPG's or not, you must first ask yourself the fundamental question:

WHAT IS AN RPG?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

The problem is all the fags who wanted to "take RPG design to the next level" (of gayness).

NOTHING needed to change in the first place. Old-school blobbers and Gold Box games were 100% fine, they just needed cleaner graphics and interfaces.

The actual truth is that nothing needed to change after Jagged Alliance 2 (1999).

Elegant isometric perspective, turn-based tactical combat, seemlessly integrated strat-layer, largely non-linear narration and exploration, destructible buildings, decent physics, massive squad pool, reactivity, personality, humor etc.

All devs needed to do was keep making this sort of game, with enlarged visual assets and refactored UI for ever-increasing display resolutions.

The problem is, they lacked the intelligence and talent. Note how RPG devs rarely talk about Jagged Alliance 2? It's because it makes them look like a bunch of incompetents.

They took one look at JA2 and said "We can't make something like that in a million years. Let's keep making shitty RTwP fantasy RPGs, 3d openworld garbage, and assorted indie trash."

Nah. I'll pass playing the same game over and over and over again.

JA 2 is fine the first time you play it, the second to 4th time with assortment of mods. After that it is just banality.

Changing things around is fine. Not every game needs to be JA2. The non-linear narration is pretty much shit. You could remove what pass as narrative in JA2 and the experience will not change. The same with the "personalities". Its fun yes, but its sugar on top of excellent tactical RPG that is JA2.

 

[Haba]

I doubt you've played all RPGs out there. I've completed like 400 of them and there still are games I have skipped.

Play the bad ones. Even mediocre cRPG from the 90s is usually better that the tripe Steam discovery tries to feed me.

And modern tools (cheat engine speedhack, Dosbox save states) will make it easier to tolerate the suck.

 

[MasPingon]

Gonna keep riding my i5-2320 from 2011 out.

Let me give you a hug.

That's my config, bro. I call it Highlander. i5, 8 gb Ram, gf 7600 and proud!

 

[mondblut]

You're right. We should all be playing Diablo 3 clones that have been run through google translate fifteen times. Now that would be quality.

If Diablo 3 had a party and was turn-based, that would be just fine.

Seriously though, the writing in ToEE was even worse than the "Ho, yon adventurers! Prithee, let me regale you with a tale of ye olde gaye rightes, and how the Orcpublicans are destroying our fair land. Also, here is a choice between murdering everyone and saving a baby from the rape skeletons" shit that you get from stuff like modern bioware.

LOL@ people reading useless hypertext instead of skipping to tl;dr in their quest journal.

 

[Lacrymas]

Weak sauce.

I've never liked video games.