4X Best game remedy for MOO2 withdrawl ?

[CRPG Fanatic 101]

Which game would you recommend ? I have space empires 4 & 5, galciv 1 & 2, but they just don't have the pull imo. They don't draw you in with character, volatility and addictive dynamic gameplay. Everything seems more mechanical & uninspired. Good quality and intelligent game design, just too bland.

 

[Citizen]

Not bland space 4x? Ascendancy maybe, but you will get bored with dumb AI pretty fast.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Master of Orion, the original

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Birth Of The Federation?

 

[tindrli]

this..

this was guide for installing and preparing everything but those links are down but use it as reference since you want to play with some of those mods

Spoiler

First of all:
1. Install the game.
2. Chek if your game is base/gold or deluxe
If you have Base or gold version install this patch.
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-details-528-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.94.html
It will convert your base/gold version to fully patched stock 1.94 Deluxe
If you allready have deluxe version install this patch
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-529-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.94.html#dldetails
and then this one
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-539-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.95.html#dldetails
Important: TO INSTALL 1.95 YOU MUST HAVE 1.94 INSTALLED

-good. Next things are mods and since many of mods have all kinds of shit that that does not comes with a stock youll need IMAGE MOD pack.
http://imagemod.spaceempires.net/download.php
or download it from torrent
http://bt.spaceempires.net/torrents-details.php?id=72
its 69.11 MB so you should not wait a week to have it downloaded
and new component pack V33
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-file-692.html
-now youll want to see beter stars nebulas space objects and such so you need
Fyron's Quadrant Mod
http://bt.spaceempires.net/torrents-details.php?id=6 torrent
or direct
http://www.spaceempires.net/home/downloads-file-506.html

Beside the 1.94 which is installer everything above should be extracted in a main space empires IV folder OVERWRITING ALL.. if it doesn't offers you to overwrite then you are probably extracting in the wrong place

Now, before you download any mod first download Fyron's Mod Launcher v.0.23 it will make a life easier
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-file-600.html
and extract it to game folder.
with this little app you can manage/start/load your mods and it requires .NET FRAMEWORK 2.0
which i think everyone have already.

MOD LIST
Allright, this one shuld be the most recent one with codex type challenging AI (Updated 24.FEB.2014)
ReStock Mod Version 5.0
http://files.spaceempires.net/user/2911/ReStock5.7z
(optional)to play ReStock_Mod_Version_5.0 beside all that i mentioned above you will also need
Master of Orion II Music Mod
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-625-Master_of_Orion_II_Music_Mod.html#dldetails


if you like Star trek then this one is for you:
AST Mod v2.0
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-file-947.html

If you like diversity then
Dark Nova 4.29
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-862-Dark_Nova_4.29.html#dldetails

and if you want to play stock 1.95 ONLY without any improvement but with kick ass AI then
TDM-ReMod Pack 1.1
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-file-904.html

and last and oldest kick ass AI if you prefer Fighters/missiles/carriers
Carrier Battles Mod 1.7
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-729-Carrier_Battles_Mod_1.7.html#dldetails

allright. this should be more less everything with AI

and when you play the shit of it then go with space empires V and dont forget balance Mod

ENjoy

 

[lophiaspis]

Only thing that compares is Alpha Centauri. Every actual MOO clone is shit.

 

[CRPG Fanatic 101]

Birth Of The Federation?

Thanks... have you seen this site ? https://www.armadafleetcommand.com/botf

 

[CRPG Fanatic 101]

this..

this was guide for installing and preparing everything but those links are down but use it as reference since you want to play with some of those mods

Spoiler

First of all:
1. Install the game.
2. Chek if your game is base/gold or deluxe
If you have Base or gold version install this patch.
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-details-528-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.94.html
It will convert your base/gold version to fully patched stock 1.94 Deluxe
If you allready have deluxe version install this patch
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-529-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.94.html#dldetails
and then this one
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-539-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.95.html#dldetails
Important: TO INSTALL 1.95 YOU MUST HAVE 1.94 INSTALLED

-good. Next things are mods and since many of mods have all kinds of shit that that does not comes with a stock youll need IMAGE MOD pack.
http://imagemod.spaceempires.net/download.php
or download it from torrent
http://bt.spaceempires.net/torrents-details.php?id=72
its 69.11 MB so you should not wait a week to have it downloaded
and new component pack V33
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-file-692.html
-now youll want to see beter stars nebulas space objects and such so you need
Fyron's Quadrant Mod
http://bt.spaceempires.net/torrents-details.php?id=6 torrent
or direct
http://www.spaceempires.net/home/downloads-file-506.html

Beside the 1.94 which is installer everything above should be extracted in a main space empires IV folder OVERWRITING ALL.. if it doesn't offers you to overwrite then you are probably extracting in the wrong place

Now, before you download any mod first download Fyron's Mod Launcher v.0.23 it will make a life easier
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-file-600.html
and extract it to game folder.
with this little app you can manage/start/load your mods and it requires .NET FRAMEWORK 2.0
which i think everyone have already.

MOD LIST
Allright, this one shuld be the most recent one with codex type challenging AI (Updated 24.FEB.2014)
ReStock Mod Version 5.0
http://files.spaceempires.net/user/2911/ReStock5.7z
(optional)to play ReStock_Mod_Version_5.0 beside all that i mentioned above you will also need
Master of Orion II Music Mod
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-625-Master_of_Orion_II_Music_Mod.html#dldetails


if you like Star trek then this one is for you:
AST Mod v2.0
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-file-947.html

If you like diversity then
Dark Nova 4.29
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-862-Dark_Nova_4.29.html#dldetails

and if you want to play stock 1.95 ONLY without any improvement but with kick ass AI then
TDM-ReMod Pack 1.1
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-file-904.html

and last and oldest kick ass AI if you prefer Fighters/missiles/carriers
Carrier Battles Mod 1.7
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-729-Carrier_Battles_Mod_1.7.html#dldetails

allright. this should be more less everything with AI

and when you play the shit of it then go with space empires V and dont forget balance Mod

ENjoy

It seems like Space Empires 4 is highly malleable, allowing for a deeper sci-fi experience than MOO 2. I just hope you can play with a gigantic universe size, more than 8 races and not have any one race winding up overpowered in an unbalanced way regarding fleet size or tech level advantage.

Thanks for the great set of links and instructions.

 

[CRPG Fanatic 101]

Master of Orion, the original

My problem is that any game I've played, I've exhausted several times over and MOO1 just doesn't have enough micromanagenment depth to lure me back in. Great game though, pretty close to perfect.

 

[tindrli]

this..

this was guide for installing and preparing everything but those links are down but use it as reference since you want to play with some of those mods

Spoiler

First of all:
1. Install the game.
2. Chek if your game is base/gold or deluxe
If you have Base or gold version install this patch.
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-details-528-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.94.html
It will convert your base/gold version to fully patched stock 1.94 Deluxe
If you allready have deluxe version install this patch
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-529-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.94.html#dldetails
and then this one
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-539-SE4_Deluxe_Patch_1.95.html#dldetails
Important: TO INSTALL 1.95 YOU MUST HAVE 1.94 INSTALLED

-good. Next things are mods and since many of mods have all kinds of shit that that does not comes with a stock youll need IMAGE MOD pack.
http://imagemod.spaceempires.net/download.php
or download it from torrent
http://bt.spaceempires.net/torrents-details.php?id=72
its 69.11 MB so you should not wait a week to have it downloaded
and new component pack V33
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-file-692.html
-now youll want to see beter stars nebulas space objects and such so you need
Fyron's Quadrant Mod
http://bt.spaceempires.net/torrents-details.php?id=6 torrent
or direct
http://www.spaceempires.net/home/downloads-file-506.html

Beside the 1.94 which is installer everything above should be extracted in a main space empires IV folder OVERWRITING ALL.. if it doesn't offers you to overwrite then you are probably extracting in the wrong place

Now, before you download any mod first download Fyron's Mod Launcher v.0.23 it will make a life easier
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-file-600.html
and extract it to game folder.
with this little app you can manage/start/load your mods and it requires .NET FRAMEWORK 2.0
which i think everyone have already.

MOD LIST
Allright, this one shuld be the most recent one with codex type challenging AI (Updated 24.FEB.2014)
ReStock Mod Version 5.0
http://files.spaceempires.net/user/2911/ReStock5.7z
(optional)to play ReStock_Mod_Version_5.0 beside all that i mentioned above you will also need
Master of Orion II Music Mod
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-625-Master_of_Orion_II_Music_Mod.html#dldetails


if you like Star trek then this one is for you:
AST Mod v2.0
http://www.spaceempires.net/downloads-file-947.html

If you like diversity then
Dark Nova 4.29
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-862-Dark_Nova_4.29.html#dldetails

and if you want to play stock 1.95 ONLY without any improvement but with kick ass AI then
TDM-ReMod Pack 1.1
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-file-904.html

and last and oldest kick ass AI if you prefer Fighters/missiles/carriers
Carrier Battles Mod 1.7
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-details-729-Carrier_Battles_Mod_1.7.html#dldetails

allright. this should be more less everything with AI

and when you play the shit of it then go with space empires V and dont forget balance Mod

ENjoy

It seems like Space Empires 4 is highly malleable, allowing for a deeper sci-fi experience than MOO 2. I just hope you can play with a gigantic universe size, more than 8 races and not have any one race winding up overpowered in an unbalanced way regarding fleet size or tech level advantage.

Thanks for the great set of links and instructions.

i would suggest medium size galaxy and restock mod 5.0 or Null space mod since seems like its most updated.
enjoy it and see what strategy works for you.
http://spaceempires.net/downloads-cat-6-orderdateD.html#categorystart

 

[Norfleet]

It seems like Space Empires 4 is highly malleable, allowing for a deeper sci-fi experience than MOO 2. I just hope you can play with a gigantic universe size, more than 8 races and not have any one race winding up overpowered in an unbalanced way regarding fleet size or tech level advantage.

You certainly can...SEIV has SHITLOADS of stuff in it...but it has also one problem: The AI is completely braindead.

The endgame in SEIV basically amounts to the AI deciding to declare war on you for no reason, and then immediately surrendering the next turn.

 

[Raapys]

Yeah, SEIV's problem is the terrible AI and the complete genericness of the setting, technologies, etc. Mods can take care of the latter, but does further damage to the former.

 

[CRPG Fanatic 101]

Mods can take care of the latter, but does further damage to the former.

Automatically unfixable ? Or it simply because the current mods are inadequate ?

 

[Raapys]

There are actually AI mods, quite good ones, for the base game. The AI is partially moddable, in terms of facility building priority, designs, etc.. But the modders just care about multiplayer, so when they change stuff around they do so without tweaking the AI to compensate. In some cases, with new facility or ship component types, it would also require code changes to do so.

SE5 made fully scriptable AI i believe, but the game didn't quite reach up to SE4 levels anyway. And the UI is an enormous step back, making the micromanagement much more tedious.

 

[DakaSha V]

SE5 made fully scriptable AI i believe, but the game didn't quite reach up to SE4 levels anyway. And the UI is an enormous step back, making the micromanagement much more tedious.

Which is saying a lot. Se4 is already unbearably tedious