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makchanka

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Even flat earthers have more sense than mindless CNN-bots like you - at least those idiots are trying to figure it out and fall for BS. You're not even trying.

Seriously, people like you are the worst possible kind - not just rejecting but actively shitting on everyone who challenges the propaganda. It's like you not only want to stay in your cage, but keep everyone else in it as well.

CNN isn't exactly trustworthy, and getting your worldview from corporate media makes you gullible, but corporate media is still far better than unfounded social media trash. At least their bullshit is consistent and at least their lies are usually sprinkled with a bit of truth.

Just because CNN is bullshit doesn't mean you need to fall for even dumber bullshit. That just makes you worse than a CNN-bot. If some retard got a radio show and started shrieking that Trump was a Jew from Mars who wants to steal all the Mexican babies you'd believe it, because it "challenges the narrative."

That doesn't make you skeptical in any way. It makes you the opposite of skeptical. Skepticism requires that you demand evidence and that you examine every claim critically--including your own beliefs. I know you're not doing that, because if you were, you wouldn't be defending people whose views aren't even remotely evidence-based.

Challenging the narrative isn't good in itself. Challenging the narrative with fact is what's important. It's hilarious that you think you're not still in the liberal ideology cage.
 
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If some retard got a radio show and started shrieking that Trump was a Jew from Mars who wants to steal all the Mexican babies you'd believe it, because it "challenges the narrative."

Try to find less retarded strawmen next time.

Skepticism requires that you demand evidence and that you examine every claim critically--including your own beliefs.

Yes, you got that right.

I know you're not doing that, because if you were, you wouldn't be defending people whose views aren't even remotely evidence-based.

Alternative media are important precisely because they present facts and evidence that are often omitted by the corporate media. That is lying by omission. Once you have the missing facts, you get a much clearer picture of what is going on.

Your problem is that you didn't take the time to examine the evidence every step of the way and reject the conclusions of those who have done that. Your beliefs tell you that their conclusions cannot be true and you dismiss it all out of hand.
 

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Fuck google, and their actions are indeed both suspect and dangerous, but let's not call people who regurgitate the likes of David Icke, Cathy Brennan, Weev, and Alex Jones "independent thinkers." Their gormless followers are among the most credulous retards on the face of planet earth. They shouldn't be forcibly silenced by a gigantic corporation, but they're not intellectual mavericks--they're on par with flat earthers, incels, and Stalinists.
First they came for the conspiracy theorists, and I did not speak out because I was not a conspiracy theorist.

Then they came for the incels, and I did not speak out because I was not an incel.

Then they came for the Stalinists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Stalinist.

Then they came for the Codex, and there was no one left to speak for us.

If they've come for the conspiracy theorists, the incels and the Stalinists then that's most of the Codex gone before they've even knocked on the door here.
 

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A few tips.
Stop using social media. Kill your FB account, like, NOW.
Stop watching TV.
More broadly, Stop consuming MSM.
Get your news from multiple independent sources and form your own opinion instead of being spoonfed a sanitized one.
There are still good indie sources on YT.
Don't fall into the Group Think trap (including AJ cs)
 

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This is what happens when corporations have such large control over something as important as the Internet. Sanitise people's content. Youtube is a warning of things to come.
 

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If Youtube goes the way of the corporate media, it will become as irrelevant as corporate media. CNN lost 30% of its viewers in the last couple of months.

There are already alternatives like Bitchute and D-Tube where the banned stuff is posted.
 

makchanka

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Try to find less retarded strawmen next time.

That's not what a strawman is. For it to be a strawman, I would have to be positioning that as your actual argument. I am not. I was lampooning your argument. This is a difference that can be determined with enough reading comprehension.

Yes, you got that right.

Yet you don't employ skepticism at all if you get your news from certain sources. Some alt news is fine, but the most popular outlets which make up Cleve's diet are really only for the young, exceptionally gullible, and insane.

Alternative media are important precisely because they present facts and evidence that are often omitted by the corporate media. That is lying by omission. Once you have the missing facts, you get a much clearer picture of what is going on.

The difference between mainstream corporate media and "alternative media" like Shareblue isn't that they're portraying two equal sides of the same event. That's not it at all. The difference between CNN and Shareblue or Fox and Infowars is that CNN and Fox lie by omission whereas Shareblue and Infowars construct lies from whole cloth. Again, some alt media is fine, but we're specifically talking about the media diet that has resulted in Cleve's hilarious worldview here.

For instance: Right now, in the news, there has been another school shooting. The news has reported or attempted to report factual information. However, many coproate news outlets are also reporting that an "AR-15-style weapon was used," whatever the fuck an "AR-style" is--is it a fucking AR platform or not? Anyway, corporate news is building on actual, concrete fact to generate hysteria over AR-15s, because they have noticed that this hysteria accrues views which they can sell to advertisers. They build a saleable narrative out of actual events, and filter that through liberal bias, state and/or parent company interests, advertiser interests, etc.

Corporate news attempts to frame the debate with (mostly, but not always) actual facts. Shareblue and Infowars attempt to build a debate out of completely made-up hysteria. Infowars will very likely report that the dead children are "crisis actors" as they have done before. They might not, as they've recently taken heat for their "crisis actor" shtick*, but it's still likely. Shareblue will probably claim Trump had something to do with it, that a Democrat could have prevented it (lol), and -maybe- that Russia is somehow to blame.

Claiming Infowars, Shareblue, etc. belong in the same realm as mainstream news is akin to claiming that intelligent design belongs in science classrooms. They are not remotely the same things and anyone who seriously gets their news from this shit is completely politically illiterate.

Your problem is that you didn't take the time to examine the evidence every step of the way and reject the conclusions of those who have done that. Your beliefs tell you that their conclusions cannot be true and you dismiss it all out of hand.

Irony.

Anyway, you can look at the socioeconomic and political machines we have in place, how media operates, and you can test and verify the claims of various outlets at different points over the years many times over, and you can draw useful general rules from these. For instance: Anyone who gets their worldview from facebook is a literal retard. That's simply a scientific fact, and you can phrenologically test their skull lumps to confirm this.

Seriously though, some sources are better than others, and learning how to intelligently assign trust is something all adults have to figure out. Some adults, sadly, have not figured out how to do this, and that's where we get the shit end of alt news, like Breitbart.

*I swear I'm not a crypto-Jew trying to mind-cuck you. I'm just your average Chicana trying to have 14 anchor babies in order to further the goals of the white genocide project as directed by our Jewish overlords. There's a difference.
 
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Yet you don't employ skepticism at all if you get your news from certain sources. Some alt news is fine, but the most popular outlets which make up Cleve's diet are really only for the young, exceptionally gullible, and insane.

It is best to inform yourself from completely different and opposing sources, while paying attention to verifiable facts that one side or the other omits. I don't know which media Cleve uses and neither do you. He is wrong on some things, but correct on many others.

Shareblue and Infowars attempt to build a debate out of completely made-up hysteria.

I also think that AJ's hysteria is a problem. Nevertheless he does often bring uncomfortable facts to a large audience. Overall, AJ is much closer to the truth than the fairy tales in corporatist media propaganda for the naive and stupid.

that's where we get the shit end of alt news, like Breitbart.

*I swear I'm not a crypto-Jew trying to mind-cuck you.

If you were a crypto-jew, you'd be supporting Breitbart. They're as pro-Israel and Zionist as it gets.
 

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Had an eventful weekend playing Heralds of the Winged Exemplar.

After exploring the Caverns of Zandrithar, found some fantastic treasures. And then met the Entity outside in the grove. Our party's sage/thaumaturge attempted to read its mind, but got mind-spanked instead.

Finally reached the Kublai Axis. I have the impression we were supposed to do this before going to Waterport. But I love the open-ended freedom of exploration the game offers.

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Approaching two-hundred hours, Grimoire continues to amaze.
 

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Steam:
Mr Blackmore:

The resolution i am running is1920x1080. Shouldn't I be able to run the game full screen?

GOLDEN ERA GAMES [developer] 17 hours ago
I don't know why that resolution is not working on your machine, but I can recommend you adjust the screen resolution in config to something a little bit lower.

Has Mr. Blackmore been posting false information up here again? That guy is constantly spreading rumors about the game.
 

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I also think that AJ's hysteria is a problem. Nevertheless he does often bring uncomfortable facts to a large audience. Overall, AJ is much closer to the truth than the fairy tales in corporatist media propaganda for the naive and stupid.

Fact check him. There are far better sources than Jones for those broken clock moments in which he brings up actual problems. Even if a snake oil salesman sometimes sells you something that appears to work it doesn't mean you should continue patronizing him.

And, again, while CNN doesn't represent the world as it truly is and uses deceptive tactics to sell a specific narrative, Jones is objectively worse. There is no actual evidence of chemtrails. The fed, the Bilderberg Group, the Rothschilds, the IMF and the World Bank, etc. aren't the source of the world's problems--those are problems that result from larger structural issues. The NWO does not exist. Obama is not a socialist. Socialists hate Obama. There is no verifiable evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, and this detracts from the very real issues stemming from both international and domestic policy that came out of 9/11.

There are vastly worse "conspiracies" out there that Jones does not report on that aren't controversial at all. These things are backed by actual evidence. They're verifiable. They actually happened and those in relevant fields will not deny they happened. You will never find an airforce pilot who tells you chemtrails are real. You will find scores of thousands of scholars, government workers, reporters, businesspeople, peasants and laborers, etc. who will tell you about US-backed United Fruit overturning a democratically elected government in Guatemala. You will find just as many who tell you about COINTELPRO. You will find just as many who talk about the state smearing them across the pavement in many major cities in order to protect rich swindlers just like Alex Jones.

Here's a tip: If your news seeks to turn a profit or if it's on a government's leash, its primary interest is not going to be informing the public. If you get your worldview from hacks like Jones, you will never, ever be informed.

Ignore people like Jones and David Icke. They're a distraction from actual horrors perpetrated by the powerful.
 
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Fact check him. There are far better sources than Jones for those broken clock moments in which he brings up actual problems. Even if a snake oil salesman sometimes sells you something that appears to work it doesn't mean you should continue patronizing him.

And, again, while CNN doesn't represent the world as it truly is and uses deceptive tactics to sell a specific narrative, Jones is objectively worse. There is no actual evidence of chemtrails. The fed, the Bilderberg Group, the Rothschilds, the IMF and the World Bank, etc. aren't the source of the world's problems--those are problems that result from larger structural issues. The NWO does not exist. Obama is not a socialist. Socialists hate Obama. There is no verifiable evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, and this detracts from the very real issues stemming from both international and domestic policy that came out of 9/11.

There are vastly worse "conspiracies" out there that Jones does not report on that aren't controversial at all. These things are backed by actual evidence. They're verifiable. They actually happened and those in relevant fields will not deny they happened. You will never find an airforce pilot who tells you chemtrails are real. You will find scores of thousands of scholars, government workers, reporters, businesspeople, peasants and laborers, etc. who will tell you about US-backed United Fruit overturning a democratically elected government in Guatemala. You will find just as many who tell you about COINTELPRO. You will find just as many who talk about the state smearing them across the pavement in many major cities in order to protect rich swindlers just like Alex Jones.

Here's a tip: If your news seeks to turn a profit or if it's on a government's leash, its primary interest is not going to be informing the public. If you get your worldview from hacks like Jones, you will never, ever be informed.

Ignore people like Jones and David Icke. They're a distraction from actual horrors perpetrated by the powerful.

Well there's two possibilities.

One is that Jones is just entertainment (which is the case for art bell and most radio weirdos) and then they don't know what 'conspiracy theories' are true and which aren't and just talk about them all like they are totally true. Chemtrails is especially retarded one no one could believe in, but OTOH all the facebook commentors for sandy hook who defend it come from accounts registered on the same day, two days BEFORE sandy hook. Plus archive.org shows that sandy hook website showed the school as closed for over 8 years, then two days beforehand it suddenly shows archived pages where it is open.

The other is that it's intentional misinformation. I don't think anyone else takes chemtrails seriously, but if you have a guy who claims they are totally real talking about a real issue then you tend to disbelieve anything real that pops up if he endorses it. If you have a new and stupid conspiracy theory come out every week then anything real that comes out like the Generals who talk about the pentagon deciding back in the 90s to overthrow all the middle eastern governents, then people probably don't even notice.

Since all the news is owned by the same people who control the government at this point, the news is useless because they are not interested in exposing the plots they themselves cook up.
 

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I don't know if that is what you guys are referring to by chemtrails, but local weather modification via aerial release of particulates is already commercially available. The thing about Alex Jones, is that he sensationalises and hyperbolises a lot, but his stories are often based on reality. The whole "gay frogs" thing he became so famous for, was 100% legit. The use of Atrazine for pest control was causing feminisation in frogs, causing sex change in some and a loss of interest in the opposite sex in others. You'd actually have to look up the study to confirm it, though, because footage of Alex Jones yelling and ranting to the camera immediately makes whatever he's talking about seem less credible, although often very funny. Infowars releases way too much (shallow) content about way too little for it to be worth watching for anything but entertainment value, but it's still better journalism than a lot of "main stream media" news outlets. Doesn't take much, to be fair.


How can you not like this?
 

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Personally I am liking Icke more and more now:



As to Jones, I used to think that he is controlled opposition until I watched his Roegan interview. That really changed my opinion about him.
 

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but OTOH all the facebook commentors for sandy hook who defend it come from accounts registered on the same day, two days BEFORE sandy hook. Plus archive.org shows that sandy hook website showed the school as closed for over 8 years, then two days beforehand it suddenly shows archived pages where it is open.

You probably think the holocaust didn't happen either and that there were many fine nazis, where's your source for this?
 
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but OTOH all the facebook commentors for sandy hook who defend it come from accounts registered on the same day, two days BEFORE sandy hook. Plus archive.org shows that sandy hook website showed the school as closed for over 8 years, then two days beforehand it suddenly shows archived pages where it is open.

You probably think the holocaust didn't happen either and that there were many fine nazis, where's your source for this?

You probably eat fruit loops out of your own ass, I can tell by the hat.
 

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You probably eat fruit loops out of your own ass, I can tell by the hat.

It's people like you that are harassing and threatening the parents of the children who were killed that day, claiming that the shooting never happened and all those involved were actors. These are real people though and 20 children were really murdered that day.
And of course you ignore the part asking where your proof is or what the source is for your outrageous claims.
 
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I achieved making our party's original wizard into a quadratic spellcaster character, multi-classing from wizard to sage to thaumaturge and finally necromancer.

It was interesting how it happened, as initially I was going to switch our Rhattu sage into a necromancer, but then I realized his Willpower was too low. So I reversed course and started to plan that path of development with our wizard, changing him first into a sage. Only then, I realized that sages cannot multi class into necromancers! So he had to pick up levels in thaumaturge and work the stats back up to at last meet the requirements of necromancer.

This class changing in Grimoire, complicated business.

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The NPC below, I remember distinctively from the Indiegogo campaign video. Encountering him was like a long awaited reunion.

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