KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

[Darth Canoli]

What a disappointment... I came here to feast on the rage over a xbox release announcement and there's nothing at all. Even their Facebook page has more, even if it's mostly just one very vocal asshole. Doesn't feel like the Codex at all here...

Fu****g mo**ons, a Xbox release, what a waste of time ! they should be crucified !

Happy to oblige ;-)

 

[Cyberarmy]

What a disappointment... I came here to feast on the rage over a xbox release announcement and there's nothing at all. Even their Facebook page has more, even if it's mostly just one very vocal asshole. Doesn't feel like the Codex at all here...

We kinda suspect this kind of things nowadays so no suprise there.
Next step is dumbing down for console (both gameplay and UI wise)

 

[ArchAngel]

What a disappointment... I came here to feast on the rage over a xbox release announcement and there's nothing at all. Even their Facebook page has more, even if it's mostly just one very vocal asshole. Doesn't feel like the Codex at all here...

Well they did say multiple times they would love do to a console release if they could afford it. I guess M$ pitched in for that

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

What a disappointment... I came here to feast on the rage over a xbox release announcement and there's nothing at all. Even their Facebook page has more, even if it's mostly just one very vocal asshole. Doesn't feel like the Codex at all here...

We kinda suspect this kind of things nowadays so no suprise there.
Next step is dumbing down for console (both gameplay and UI wise)

Correct term is "streamlined user experience for today's markets." I think.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Bane of gaming...

 

[PanteraNera]

 

[PanteraNera]

Okay some snippets from discord:

• there was a bigger outburst of worries that PP will not be PC-centric or to much stream-lined for a console release from different persons
• UnstableVoltage stated that development will be simultaneously, he also said that it is not an "exclusive deal" with MS (so they might also port it to other consoles), he also stated that the Mac/Linux build would probably take more coding work than porting it for X-Box
• The Briefing 5 (focused on Synedrion) will be released soon-ish (probably this week)

 

[Alienman]

It was no real surprise, I mean with the whole controller debacle.

 

[lightbane]

Another one bites the dust and takes the corrupting apple that is a console adaptation.

Shame.

 

[Latelistener]

Consoles are like King Midas, except everything they touch turns into shit.

I have one but important question: who do think will play this on consoles? All they care about nowadays is "cinematic experience".
Valkyria Chronicles was the last attempt to revitalize the tactical genre on consoles and it failed miserably (despite being a great game), so VC2 and VC3 were made for portables.
XCOM tried too and sold just as bad, so XCOM2 was timed PC-exclusive.
We never heard about any success of the newest turn-based games on consoles either.
So..

 

[ArchAngel]

Consoles are like King Midas, except everything they touch turns into shit.

I have one but important question: who do think will play this on consoles? All they care about nowadays is "cinematic experience".
Valkyria Chronicles was the last attempt to revitalize the tactical genre on consoles and it failed miserably (despite being a great game), so VC2 and VC3 were made for portables.
XCOM tried too and sold just as bad, so XCOM2 was timed PC-exclusive.
We never heard about any success of the newest turn-based games on consoles either.
So..

Console crowd just lacks necessary brainpower to do more than hold down one button to shoot at enemies in their shooter games and it is even funnier because all those game have a certain level of autoaim. For proof just watch the Gears Tactics E3 presentation. Crowd there didn't say one thing during it but as soon as they present next Gears shooter they all go YEAAAAAA. Fucking brainless morons, all of them.

 

[HansDampf]

Now that's more like it.

 

[Shog-goth]

 

[lightbane]

Now I understand why they changed the formerly awesome armors to generic sci-fi models: The console crowd is scared of new things and that's why they had to make everything look same-y.

 

[Shog-goth]

The bottom end of the table reveals that you clearly want the focus to be on a PC based, single player experience. It would definitely be wise of us to place our limited resources in this direction.

 

[UnstableVoltage]

Now we have more resources.

 

[Shog-goth]

Now we have more resources.

To make a different game.

 

[UnstableVoltage]

To make a different game.

What is the basis for your argument? We're still making the same game that we always were. Microsoft has now provided us with the resources to develop the game for the XBox alongside the PC/Mac version. Nothing in the PC version is changing.

 

[Shog-goth]

What is the basis for your argument? We're still making the same game that we always were. Microsoft has now provided us with the resources to develop the game for the XBox alongside the PC/Mac version. Nothing in the PC version is changing.

Please stop. We all know where this is heading.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Mandatory full, final and comprehensive list of people surprised by this shocking turn of events:

 

[Brancaleone]

Nice.

So now that Gollop has his pockets full of Microsoft dorra and they will be obviously getting rich from the console crowd, I can shed my last doubts and back Xenonauts 2's kickstarter instead.

 

[luinthoron]

We never heard about any success of the newest turn-based games on consoles either.

Mario + Rabbids is according to its Wikipedia page the best-selling game on the Switch not published by Nintendo.

To make a different game.

*shrugs* They always said they'd want to port this to consoles if they had the resources, why would you assume it would suddenly be a different game now.

 

[Shog-goth]

*shrugs* They always said they'd want to port this to consoles if they had the resources, why would you assume it would suddenly be a different game now.

With Phoenix Point, we sent out a survey, and console versions came back very low on the list. While more strategy games are coming to console (probably XCOM to thank for that), they have been primarily a PC focused genre. We are currently focusing on the PC product to ensure delivery of the best possible version.

We always intended to release on Windows, Linux and Mac with no consideration to consoles. That is not to say a console port couldn't happen in the future, but it would very much depend on the success of the game and the demand for a console version. The issue with console ports is the additional expense. While current gen consoles run on pretty much the same architecture as PCs, there's still a lot of work to be done to port them (especially to fit within hardware limitations of the consoles). Even if done in-house, that's still development time to pay for. Additionally, there can be additional licencing and certification costs to release on console platforms. So as you can see, a lot has to be taken into consideration to determine if a console release is viable.

 

[xmd1997]

*shrugs* They always said they'd want to port this to consoles if they had the resources, why would you assume it would suddenly be a different game now.

With Phoenix Point, we sent out a survey, and console versions came back very low on the list. While more strategy games are coming to console (probably XCOM to thank for that), they have been primarily a PC focused genre. We are currently focusing on the PC product to ensure delivery of the best possible version.

We always intended to release on Windows, Linux and Mac with no consideration to consoles. That is not to say a console port couldn't happen in the future, but it would very much depend on the success of the game and the demand for a console version. The issue with console ports is the additional expense. While current gen consoles run on pretty much the same architecture as PCs, there's still a lot of work to be done to port them (especially to fit within hardware limitations of the consoles). Even if done in-house, that's still development time to pay for. Additionally, there can be additional licencing and certification costs to release on console platforms. So as you can see, a lot has to be taken into consideration to determine if a console release is viable.

"Is there going to be console version?"
"I wish we could do a console version. This is in the hands of the gods at the moment. Funding permitting, we would like to do it. At the moment we’re only working on PC/Mac/Linux versions." -Julian Gallop, Most recent Q&A back in February.

"We have no plans as yet for a console version - it depends very much on the funding (and it doesn't mean dumbing anything down either)."-Julian Gallop, Reddit Q&A last year in may

https://phoenixpoint.info/blog/2018/2/5/facebook-live-qa-2-terror-from-the-deep
https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoi...m_the_designer_of_xcom_and_phoenix_point_ask/

 

[Grotesque]

They have so much dollars that they reached the last places in that "fanbase priority list" where the console port was situated.