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Fig to publish video games based on Gary Gygax's unpublished works

LESS T_T

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No, they are not actively in the works. Fig and Gary Gygax's family are looking for developers: https://venturebeat.com/2018/04/17/dd-co-creator-gary-gygaxs-trust-and-fig-partner-on-video-games/

D&D co-creator Gary Gygax’s trust and Fig partner on video games

Video games owe a great deal to Gary Gygax, the co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons. In many ways, his game set foundations for the medium, and its mechanics and spirit branch out to all genres these days. But Gygax never created a video game that made it to market.

Alex Gygax wants to add video game development to his father’s legacy. Today, The Gygax Trust is announcing a partnership with the crowdfunding platform Fig to publish video games based on the unpublished works of Gary Gygax. Timing for the first campaign was not disclosed.

In an interview with GamesBeat, Paul Stormberg of Gygax Games said that the projects would deal with, among other things, the original home role-playing game campaign that Gygax ran. “We’ll just say it’s something people have been waiting for a long time,” said Stormberg, who’s worked for years in the pen-and-paper RPG industry.

Alex Gygax said that the trust picked Fig as a partner because of the important role fans play in crowdfunding. Since they don’t have a development studio signed or a game prototype yet, they chose Fig to work with. This platform differs from Kickstarter and Indiegogo in that people backing products can get a piece of the action and a return on their pledges.

“It’s a good opportunity to get some games produced and work with gamers and still be able to have some direction of where some things go,” Alex said, “making sure the spirit, the essence, of Dungeons & Dragons and the RPG Realm is kept in mind.”

I asked if it was at all based on Castle Greyhawk, the megadungeon that served as the base for one of Gary Gygax’s home campaigns. They were a bit coy about it, but they did confirm that the projects wouldn’t involve Gord the Rogue, his character that appeared in novels after the D&D co-creators breakup with his own company, TSR, or the Castle Zagyg, a Castles & Crusades megadungeon that could be called “The Son of Castle Greyhawk.”

“We’ll just saw it’s something people have been waiting for a long time,” Stromberg said.

The Gygax Trust has had years to adapt Gary Gygax’s works into a game. So, why did they decide now is the time? It’s a combination of platforms like Fig and the advancement of in-game design and computer tech.

“Video games have caught up” with the ideas and concepts my father played with, Alex Gygax said. “I think [the industry] has caught up with what we’re trying to create.”

Stromberg explained how over the years, the family has tried to work with studios to make games on Gary Gygax’s works before.

“Gail [Gygax, Gary’s wife] herself is quite familiar with the development of her husband’s IP for computer games, having worked with a number of companies over the years to do so. While the projects all had promise, some of them quite fantastic, the developers could never quite achieve the vision Gary had laid out,” Stromberg said. “However, now, with Fig, an amazing pool of talented developers, and some truly amazing advances in computer gaming, we know we can begin to bring the real jewels of Gary’s unpublished IP to his legions of fans and the larger gaming community.”

As we chatted, Alex Gygax and Stromberg kept talking about the fans. It’s certainly the people who play, who create adventures and worlds of their own, that have been the key to D&D‘s longevity over the past 40 years. Poking around internet communities such as Reddit and forums devoted to RPGs, you find people still playing the old editions that Gary Gygax published decades ago.

“[My father’s work] is something people love, and they stick with it. It had a very family like feeling to it, to everyone that has played or enjoyed it over the years,” Alex Gygax said.

On Reddit and those forums, you’ll also find people recounting their fond memories of encounters with Gary Gygax, who always made it a point to interact with fans at conventions and answer thousands of letters and emails. Alex Gygax even noted how his father would answer letters from prisoners.

And it’s that passion and goodwill that Fig and the Gygax Trust are hoping to tap for their crowdfunding campaign.

More interviews:
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-04-17-unpublished-gary-gygax-work-headed-to-fig
https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/17/1...dragons-gary-gygax-games-unpublished-work-fig

Warhammer, WotC, Funcom's Heroic Signatures, and recently announced Paranoia RPG... what's up with recent licensed video games business craze?
 

m_s0

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A bit odd announcing this kind of licensing initiative without any games already in the works, or at least some sort of concrete deal.

It makes it feel like there's no real push or momentum behind it, just wishful thinking.
 

Mustawd

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Yah, this seems like a fishing expedition, trying to gauge hype. Still, very cool idea.
 

m_s0

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I wouldn't mind if we got a good game out of this, but they are - quite literally - saying that this is "something".

That might get made "at some point" by "someone".

Maybe.


Kinda feels like somebody's trying to milk a brand that doesn't exist. And then there's this crap:
http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2018/02/as-per-gygax-memorial-fund-2016-federal.html
http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2018/02/gygax-memorial-fund-alex-gygax-was.html

And this:
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ygax-jrs-marmoreal-tomb-campaign-star/updates

So yeah, I'm getting a slightly scummy vibe here. I hope I'm wrong.

And that's ignoring this, of course:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?3037-Gary-Gygax-s-Widow-Sons-Settle-Trademark-Dispute
 

nikolokolus

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If I remember correctly, Gary's widow (his second wife), is in charge of the Gygax trust. If so, then I'm not optimistic. She's been trying for years to leverage his IPs at exorbitant prices in licensing agreements since his death 10 years ago. His sons that we're actually involved in the creation of some of these IPs (Luke and Ernie) got cut out of deal (I think GG didn't have much of a will IIRC).

in short, don't hold your breath and fuck Gail Gygax
http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14711
 

nikolokolus

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I wouldn't mind if we got a good game out of this, but they are - quite literally - saying that this is "something".

That might get made "at some point" by "someone".

Maybe.


Kinda feels like somebody's trying to milk a brand that doesn't exist. And then there's this crap:
http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2018/02/as-per-gygax-memorial-fund-2016-federal.html
http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2018/02/gygax-memorial-fund-alex-gygax-was.html

And this:
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ygax-jrs-marmoreal-tomb-campaign-star/updates

So yeah, I'm getting a slightly scummy vibe here. I hope I'm wrong.

And that's ignoring this, of course:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?3037-Gary-Gygax-s-Widow-Sons-Settle-Trademark-Dispute
The Marmoreal Tomb project got seriously delayed because of Ernie Gygax's health problems. Benoist Poire is a bro and has been doing amazing cartography for their Kickstarter and posting regular updates almost weekly for two years. Ernie Gygax has nothing to do with the Gygax Trust (he and his brother were forced out by their step mother a few years ago). By all accounts Gail Gygax is kind of a scumbag though.
 

m_s0

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I wouldn't mind if we got a good game out of this, but they are - quite literally - saying that this is "something".

That might get made "at some point" by "someone".

Maybe.


Kinda feels like somebody's trying to milk a brand that doesn't exist. And then there's this crap:
http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2018/02/as-per-gygax-memorial-fund-2016-federal.html
http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2018/02/gygax-memorial-fund-alex-gygax-was.html

And this:
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ygax-jrs-marmoreal-tomb-campaign-star/updates

So yeah, I'm getting a slightly scummy vibe here. I hope I'm wrong.

And that's ignoring this, of course:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?3037-Gary-Gygax-s-Widow-Sons-Settle-Trademark-Dispute
The Marmoreal Tomb project got seriously delayed because of Ernie Gygax's health problems. Benoist Poire is a bro and has been doing amazing cartography for their Kickstarter and posting regular updates almost weekly for two years. Ernie Gygax has nothing to do with the Gygax Trust (he and his brother were forced out by their step mother a few years ago). By all accounts Gail Gygax is kind of a scumbag though.
Well, the updates on Kickstarter made it look pretty dead - if it isn't that's good and points for Ernie. Still, it looks like it's coming together extremely slow, but I may have seen too many delayed projects to be capable of a positive outlook.

I guess my overall point would be that regardless of whom you may feel inclined to sympathize with more (yeah, it definitely ain't Gail Gygax) all that petty squabbling makes associating yourself with a Gygax... a questionable business decision.

Pretty sad legacy for a name, come to think of it.
 

nikolokolus

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I wouldn't mind if we got a good game out of this, but they are - quite literally - saying that this is "something".

That might get made "at some point" by "someone".

Maybe.


Kinda feels like somebody's trying to milk a brand that doesn't exist. And then there's this crap:
http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2018/02/as-per-gygax-memorial-fund-2016-federal.html
http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2018/02/gygax-memorial-fund-alex-gygax-was.html

And this:
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ygax-jrs-marmoreal-tomb-campaign-star/updates

So yeah, I'm getting a slightly scummy vibe here. I hope I'm wrong.

And that's ignoring this, of course:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?3037-Gary-Gygax-s-Widow-Sons-Settle-Trademark-Dispute
The Marmoreal Tomb project got seriously delayed because of Ernie Gygax's health problems. Benoist Poire is a bro and has been doing amazing cartography for their Kickstarter and posting regular updates almost weekly for two years. Ernie Gygax has nothing to do with the Gygax Trust (he and his brother were forced out by their step mother a few years ago). By all accounts Gail Gygax is kind of a scumbag though.
Well, the updates on Kickstarter made it look pretty dead - if it isn't that's good and points for Ernie. Still, it looks like it's coming together extremely slow, but I may have seen too many delayed projects to be capable of a positive outlook.

I guess my overall point would be that regardless of whom you may feel inclined to sympathize with more (yeah, it definitely ain't Gail Gygax) all that petty squabbling makes associating yourself with a Gygax... a questionable business decision.

Pretty sad legacy for a name, come to think of it.
Gail Gygax isn't a gamer and has no interests in games aside from how they might possibly enrich her, by taking advantage of her dead husbands work. Ernie and Luke Gygax are still involved in the business and ran Gygax magazine and have been involved in creating gaming material in one form or another for years. Gail decided to take her stepsons to court because she wanted to deny them from even using their own last name in a product, probably because she wanted unrealistic sums of money in exchange for "letting" them continue to produce material under the Gygax masthead. My sympathies for the Gygax brothers stem from a couple of things: I've purchased GP products before and have been very happy with them. Secondly, I've sort of been tangentially aware of Gail Gygax's shenanigans with the Gary Gygax Memorial fund for years and in every exchange she comes across as a money-grubber who has taken tens of thousands of dollars in donations from people that wanted to construct a nice memorial to Gary in Lake Geneva, and pays herself a suspiciously high salary to "administer" the fund, and there are considerable questions if there's actually any money left to build a memorial. This nebulous Fig nonsense, just sounds like more money-grubbing schemes by Gail.
 

Big Wrangle

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Holy shit, I knew Gail was off but not on that level. Welp, there goes all my hopes for games that would at least honor the Gygax legacy, unless the devs involved really pull it off.
 

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