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KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Dan Vavra's medieval chad simulator
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It's just that they gave in thanks to KCD selling well, and are looking to cash in on some clicks.
IHaveHugeNick
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"History is full of missing sources, assumptions, and nobody actually knows what it was really like".
Yes, but the people most qualified to make a historically accurate game would still be Czech historians from Czech Republic, not some dude on a website.
Yes, but the people most qualified to make a historically accurate game would still be Czech historians from Czech Republic, not some dude on a website.
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This bullshit isn't anywhere near true. These people should stop writing.
For some reason the tailor is always late too. So if you need to repair everything you will not be done until 10 or so. I should have killed that asshole
They don't get clicks from this?
Lol, he uses "Romani" instead of "Roma". First-class historical rebuttal of KCD's claims of historical accuracy 
IHaveHugeNick
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I wonder if RPS would be signing the same tune if someone made a game in a XIX century US where blacks aren't slaves.
Yeah well we only really know about slavery from historians, and historians are full of biases, history is a flawed field, what do they really know? Making a historical game based on knowledge from historians is a fool's errand.
Or maybe a WW2 game where Nazi's are good guys riding on Unicorns and Churchil and Roosevelt burn the Jews. Because why should I trust historians? They weren't even there.
Yeah well we only really know about slavery from historians, and historians are full of biases, history is a flawed field, what do they really know? Making a historical game based on knowledge from historians is a fool's errand.
Or maybe a WW2 game where Nazi's are good guys riding on Unicorns and Churchil and Roosevelt burn the Jews. Because why should I trust historians? They weren't even there.
Their argument is dumb even as it is. It sums up to: "we can't know what happened in the past, therefore it's impossible that anything is `historically accurate`". That's bullshit. We don't know with certainty what happened 30 years ago either. Does this mean we should stop studying the past or taking examples from the past, both positive and negative?
It's a lazy first-year student's argument that gets destroyed in one minute.
One good thing about the article is that some kid might read it and finish it with the takeaway that he should apply critical thought when examining the sources of any story.
It's a lazy first-year student's argument that gets destroyed in one minute.
One good thing about the article is that some kid might read it and finish it with the takeaway that he should apply critical thought when examining the sources of any story.
fantadomat
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From 5 to 10 is farming time,you go around and farm bandits for gear,after that you get drunk in front of a shop and wait for a few hours vomiting.
PS:Yeah it is really annoying how you have to waste a lot of time waiting for the lazy fuck,the alchemic was the worst. The worst is that this is modern day schedule while during this times people were up by 5-6 in the morning.
Mark Richard
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Eerily reminiscent of Kotaku's claim that objectivity is a silly thing to strive for. Historical accuracy, objectivity, it's all facets of the same thing - truth. There are many things in life that are worth striving for even if they're not obtainable, and truth is the most important of all. Giving up on the pursuit of truth is renouncing any hope of personal growth. Seeing these so called journalists deny the fundamental tenet of their profession is like watching a priest deny faith.
Something I've been thinking regarding historical realism in any game - it requires rolepaly on the player's part, to abstain from putting his post-industrial-revolution era rationality to work in a game world where his character is supposed to have the mindset of a medieval man. What are the limits of playing stupid in order to keep the game fun, and where does weird-looking larping begin?
For example, after I killed 4 bandits guarding Skalitz' silver mine, I lined up their naked bodies before the front gate, Narcos style. Probably not the right kind of roleplaying, but I was really pissed at them
Here is another lens through which to look at KCD's story - cartels fighting over territory :D
For example, after I killed 4 bandits guarding Skalitz' silver mine, I lined up their naked bodies before the front gate, Narcos style. Probably not the right kind of roleplaying, but I was really pissed at them
Here is another lens through which to look at KCD's story - cartels fighting over territory :D
Mafia all over again?
No, this RPS guy is a complete retard - "how can it be historically accurate when you can't share the emotions of religious fanatics burning down their houses??" Idiot, by this logic you can't share the emotions of anyone in any game, because, wait for it, you know it's a game while the character does not!
This maybe doesn't apply entirely in Railroad Tycoon II where you roleplay a nasty businessman who sees money as mere points, there you can have a total unison between character and player. But in most games, it's useless to look for this kind of unison, regardless of whether they are historical or not.
This maybe doesn't apply entirely in Railroad Tycoon II where you roleplay a nasty businessman who sees money as mere points, there you can have a total unison between character and player. But in most games, it's useless to look for this kind of unison, regardless of whether they are historical or not.
Lord Hanush se respetta, malparido hijo de puta!
It's absolutely eerie how much are these people nailed in Atlas Shrugged. "Objectivity is pointless, rationality an illusion, everything is relative and reality is infinitely malleable." It's pretty clear postmodernists weren't born in 1960s France, they've been always there.
Grampy_Bone
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It seems hard to top the Eurogamer review which dinged the game as racist for not including black rape babies.
They never said the babies would be rape babies. Maybe someone black just happened to be in town, and some Czech woman was very fascinated by his diversity, you know...
Grampy_Bone
Arcane
Of course of course, who knows.
It's just such a surreal thing to write in a game review. It's one thing to say the controls are bad, the music is lacking, the graphics are poor, the story is unfinished, etc, etc. But demanding to know why the authors didn't account for possible miscegenation? That's a first. If that's a valid complaint then literally anything is. Its part of a new concept of art where we attack things for what they aren't rather than what they are. Everything must conform to the narrative, no exceptions.
Yes. Fucking relativism in everything and every think. It's the manifesto of the modern progressives condensed into one word.
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