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KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Dan Vavra's medieval chad simulator

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Quite telling of the times we live in, that an attempt at historical accuracy like KC-D gets massacred for not bending to ideology, while an indentitarian power fantasy like Black Panther is treated like historical reality.

Fair is foul and fouls is fair etc. etc.

This is what happens when a country with no history and culture like murica wants to teach history and export culture to glorious Yurop.
 

Nael

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Quite telling of the times we live in, that an attempt at historical accuracy like KC-D gets massacred for not bending to ideology, while an indentitarian power fantasy like Black Panther is treated like historical reality.

Fair is foul and fouls is fair etc. etc.

This is what happens when a country with no history and culture like murica wants to teach history and export culture to glorious Yurop.

Nah. You Eurocucks are doing this on your own.
 

Immortal

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Holy shit so Eurogamer went full-retard. It's beyond what even Polygon or Kotaku write. This fools directly accuses not just Vavra, but the entire game of bigotry and sexism:

All of which means that a shadow lingers over Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Instead of challenging the Dark Age it reinterprets 615 years later, the game seems to delight in it. Instead of seeing notes in the margin of a history book, we get what feels like a glossy pamphlet advertising an escape into an oddly romanticised past.

http://archive.is/XI9zq

It's probably for the better. Looks like SJWs ganging up on something is the best kind of advertisement nowadays.


This.

SJW's don't actually play real video games, so they are a demographic you can safely antagonize for publicity / marketing without fear of loss of sales.
On the flip side lots of closet neckbeards are actually paying for this game instead of pirating it - because of the supposed aligning of political views.

Warhorse is playing 4D chess marketing here. They just need to fix the bugs so the rest of us can enjoy the game too.
 

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Codex 2013 Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands
Smejki , what's up with the dice game?
I don't think he's allowed to talk with us anymore, either because his interaction led to shit like this: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/407330798 or because they're in Stealth mode after release, at least till they fix some Bugs and shit and the game is in a more playable state.

And yeah, I noticed AI issues with the dice game too, my opponent was already over 2000 and he kept rolling like a retard, first with 4 dice, then with 3, then with 2...

With that said, the lady Stephanie thing IS a fucking fetch quest and its ending is shitty railroading. If you try a shirt you end up boning some old hag, no choice given. I was merely thinking about selling the shirt for some early game cash, but then the game went full Brazzers with its plot and I was like "WTF...?! Stop! I don't wanna cuck the guy who saved me in the prologue!".
#MeToo

I looked at that thread... have never been to 4chan before. We are all doomed.
 

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when Kingdom Come does succeed, it's peerless. The Elder Scrolls and The Witcher can feel flimsy next to the sophisticated systems and heft of history on show here.

But there's also a big problem. There are no people of colour in the game beyond people from the Cuman tribe, a Turkic people from the Eurasian Steppe. The question is, should there be? The game's makers say they've done years of research and found no conclusive proof there should be, but a historian I spoke to, who specialises in the area, disagrees.

"We know of African kings in Constantinople on pilgrimage to Spain; we know of black Moors in Spain; we know of extensive travel of Jews from the courts of Cordoba and Damascus; we also know of black people in large cities in Germany," the historian, Sean Miller, tells me. Czech cities Olomouc and Prague were on the famous Silk Road which facilitated the trade of goods all over the world. If you plot a line between them, it runs directly through the area recreated in Kingdom Come. "You just can't know nobody got sick and stayed a longer time," he says. "What if a group of black Africans came through and stayed at an inn and someone got pregnant? Even one night is enough for a pregnancy."

Eurogamer has reach a new level of "WTF am i reading"

It's just a clickbait, everyone benefits. Eurogamer gets lot and lot of click on his shitty review, warhorse gets ton of free advertisement. Now more people will go check what is kingdom come , the racist game done by the devil itself. Hopefully warhorse will do more historical games, if possible even more controversial. Some codexers gave a few ideas, the fall of Constantinople for exemple , plenty of cool settings.
 

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Holy shit so Eurogamer went full-retard. It's beyond what even Polygon or Kotaku write. This fools directly accuses not just Vavra, but the entire game of bigotry and sexism:
A lesson can be learned from Sega Japan (Yakuza series) when confronted by social justice loonies - a long blank stare followed by the middle finger.

Though he's handled the whole thing well, Vavra shouldn't have acknowledged them beyond doing just that. He and his team have nothing to be sorry for.
 
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racist much?

Racist to who? The poor Hussite wench who was left a mixed-race baby? Was secks consensual or they had too much schnapps? Did she ever knew who was the father? Did Jamal and Lebron even cared? Single mother with special child in a ruthless medieval times is a tragic history indeed. Leftie journo and his historian buddy fantasisizng about one night pregnancy are in fact glorifying rape culture and male domination (but... but... the game embraces dark ages and it's evil!).
 

Mark Richard

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Holy shit so Eurogamer went full-retard. It's beyond what even Polygon or Kotaku write. This fools directly accuses not just Vavra, but the entire game of bigotry and sexism:

All of which means that a shadow lingers over Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Instead of challenging the Dark Age it reinterprets 615 years later, the game seems to delight in it. Instead of seeing notes in the margin of a history book, we get what feels like a glossy pamphlet advertising an escape into an oddly romanticised past.

http://archive.is/XI9zq
The writer continues on to suggest the developer's affection for a musician's work is evidence of his character, because being a fan of someone's work is endorsing their personal beliefs. This is gibbering nonsense that no one could possibly live by, especially the writer. 10 bucks says he's a Lovecraft fan.
 

Parabalus

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when Kingdom Come does succeed, it's peerless. The Elder Scrolls and The Witcher can feel flimsy next to the sophisticated systems and heft of history on show here.

But there's also a big problem. There are no people of colour in the game beyond people from the Cuman tribe, a Turkic people from the Eurasian Steppe. The question is, should there be? The game's makers say they've done years of research and found no conclusive proof there should be, but a historian I spoke to, who specialises in the area, disagrees.

"We know of African kings in Constantinople on pilgrimage to Spain; we know of black Moors in Spain; we know of extensive travel of Jews from the courts of Cordoba and Damascus; we also know of black people in large cities in Germany," the historian, Sean Miller, tells me. Czech cities Olomouc and Prague were on the famous Silk Road which facilitated the trade of goods all over the world. If you plot a line between them, it runs directly through the area recreated in Kingdom Come. "You just can't know nobody got sick and stayed a longer time," he says. "What if a group of black Africans came through and stayed at an inn and someone got pregnant? Even one night is enough for a pregnancy."

Eurogamer has reach a new level of "WTF am i reading"

Honestly that paragraph reads like something straight out of Ancient Aliens or similar bullshit. IS IT POSSIBLE????

I'm sure there's a better example of this absurdism.
 

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Holy shit so Eurogamer went full-retard. It's beyond what even Polygon or Kotaku write. This fools directly accuses not just Vavra, but the entire game of bigotry and sexism:

All of which means that a shadow lingers over Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Instead of challenging the Dark Age it reinterprets 615 years later, the game seems to delight in it. Instead of seeing notes in the margin of a history book, we get what feels like a glossy pamphlet advertising an escape into an oddly romanticised past.

http://archive.is/XI9zq

It's probably for the better. Looks like SJWs ganging up on something is the best kind of advertisement nowadays.


This.

SJW's don't actually play real video games, so they are a demographic you can safely antagonize for publicity / marketing without fear of loss of sales.
On the flip side lots of closet neckbeards are actually paying for this game instead of pirating it - because of the supposed aligning of political views.

Warhorse is playing 4D chess marketing here. They just need to fix the bugs so the rest of us can enjoy the game too.

The game is a broken mess through and through, mainstream journalists are busy complaining about the game not having Jayz's/50 cents and syrian refugees around, while the other side of aisle is full of morons who keep guzzle on Vavras cum because he's our anti-sjw squadron leader, he deserves our money!

The true reality is that the game is in a terrible state for a fully priced product and the ''normal'' people who wanted to play a decent game got shafted.
 

vonAchdorf

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It sits at 74% in Steam, which means there are undeniable problems (or it would be over 80%) - but it's not a disaster.
 

titus

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Yeah Warhorse, add some African Americans :argh:

Got a single quest bug so far, careful when dealing with the monastery accident quest. I could still finish it, but I couldn't do anything else than fail to catch the guy and report that. Good thing I have the save mod!
 
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>game is unplayable for up to a YEAR after release
the absolute STATE of popamolers
It's unplayable? Wow, I must have missed that information, because I've been playing it since the 14th.

Edit: There are individual retards such as Dragonul, who can't play it but that's not a common problem.

I present you, Kingdome Come Delivery with a touch of Oblivion, it's like they had an inbreed spawn but without any positives, just all the defects :lol: .



But Dragonul09, you were cheating with a bow, melee is a much more complex and mechanical intensive combat system, you are just exploiting this beautiful piece of programming waonderlust. Just look at that proactive AI, the very definition of Hardcore:lol:, but you can complete fetch quests in multiple ways:lol:

woah, with full plate armor and the best weapons in the game going against weak shit bandits you stomp all over them
couldn't believe it myself.
 

fantadomat

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Just played the scouting the base quest. Tried to sneak around and do sabotage,it was too much of a hassle because of how dark the nights are,in the end decided to kill everyone. It was quite the fun battle,cutting down cuman scum left and right. After that i finished the quest with a happy grin only to find out that the next one auto failed.:argh:


Oh and i love how journos don't see asians/turks as another race..... only blacks are minority now.
 
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i'd love to see an african based dlc.
it'd go like this: bunch of blacks come in town, don't speak the language, the villagers are sure they're invader heathens, capture them and torch them.
wonderful. just wonderful.
 

Tigranes

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Don't mind dragonul, you can see he is enjoying the game more than any of us. I mean, I like KCD, but I don't like it enough to create a gazillion videos about it.

Just played the scouting the base quest. Tried to sneak around and do sabotage,it was too much of a hassle because of how dark the nights are,in the end decided to kill everyone. It was quite the fun battle,cutting down cuman scum left and right. After that i finished the quest with a happy grin only to find out that the next one auto failed.:argh:

Raise the gamma just slightly.
 

Beowulf

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racist much?

Racist to who? The poor Hussite wench who was left a mixed-race baby? Was secks consensual or they had too much schnapps? Did she ever knew who was the father? Did Jamal and Lebron even cared? Single mother with special child in a ruthless medieval times is a tragic history indeed.

I think I've met her. As one of the encounters along the way I've met a gal, telling me this sob story about how she is a single mother, and people in the village drive her away. I assumed that by "father is gone" she meant death, not that he run away with his pal after a night of debauchery.
No wonder she hid the child, it was black all along.

Have fun spending my hard earned 5 groshen :argh:
 

Beowulf

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Don't mind dragonul, you can see he is enjoying the game more than any of us. I mean, I like KCD, but I don't like it enough to create a gazillion videos about it.

Just played the scouting the base quest. Tried to sneak around and do sabotage,it was too much of a hassle because of how dark the nights are,in the end decided to kill everyone. It was quite the fun battle,cutting down cuman scum left and right. After that i finished the quest with a happy grin only to find out that the next one auto failed.:argh:

Raise the gamma just slightly.

Get the night vision potion. You can even brew them yourself nearby.
 

dragonul09

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>game is unplayable for up to a YEAR after release
the absolute STATE of popamolers
It's unplayable? Wow, I must have missed that information, because I've been playing it since the 14th.

Edit: There are individual retards such as Dragonul, who can't play it but that's not a common problem.

I present you, Kingdome Come Delivery with a touch of Oblivion, it's like they had an inbreed spawn but without any positives, just all the defects :lol: .



But Dragonul09, you were cheating with a bow, melee is a much more complex and mechanical intensive combat system, you are just exploiting this beautiful piece of programming waonderlust. Just look at that proactive AI, the very definition of Hardcore:lol:, but you can complete fetch quests in multiple ways:lol:

woah, with full plate armor and the best weapons in the game going against weak shit bandits you stomp all over them
couldn't believe it myself.


Which can be aquired very early in the game by killing the wayfare knight or steal from the armory without any hassle and doesn't require any stats to equip it, what do you want me to do it, not wear it and pretend it never happened? If they didn't want me to be a walking panzer at early-mid game they should have put level/stat requirement on better items and call it a day, but they clearly dont know how to create an open world game.
 

Chrio

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I have now 7 hours in this masterpiece, the first five I was collecting herbs in the starting area, it is quite op I got +2 stamina +2 charisma and +1 strength.

Also I sold all the herbs and bought alot of schnapps, preparation is everything.
 

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