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[Grimwulf]

Considering going AI as well, but don't want to fuck up the game for my neighbours. Anybody's willing to sub?

Average position, poor-ish research, lack of gold, plenty of gems, fortified territory. Army size is sorta okay, but it doesn't matter, all thanks to Impossible AI Patala. No matter how many you got, freakin' Patala got thrice as much.

Nothing changes. You buy troops and go full offensive. Eventually you are driven back and forced to hold the border. Which you do, and then go counter-attack. And then you get driven off. THIS RIDE NEVER ENDS, ffs.

Your only useful unit is Malaya Druzhina, everything else is chaff. Gathering a druzhina army (42 res and 46 rec points each) is a logistical nightmare. It's doable, but there is no joy in it.

And then you get this:

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I'm sick of it. Anybody's up for the challenge? Virtue, Patriarch and most of the mages made it back alive. Patala is defensive AI, it's unlikely they will invade all at once. Plenty PD on the borders, long NAPs with all the neighbours - no immidiate danger of losing the game. It's just, well, no chance of changing something either.

If everything else fails, I'm going AI too. Decline 21 is a marathon of pain and suffering.

 

[Joined on the 4th of July]

Will the game keep running on llama if we all go AI? That way we could determine the winner quickly and almost painlessly.

 

[Dayyālu]

I don't think so.

I could keep a single nation alive and do chainturns until the Horrorpocalypse.

 

[mondblut]

The robots win!

 

[KoolNoodles]

I guess I could help down there, except I seem to recall you didn't want any "help" taking all of Patala.

 

[Grimwulf]

I guess I could help down there, except I seem to recall you didn't want any "help" taking all of Patala.

Back then I didn't realize Dayyālu set Impossible AI for this game. Anyway, I wouldn't do it in your shoes, unless you received a courtesy war declaration from Patala.

 

[KoolNoodles]

I guess I could help down there, except I seem to recall you didn't want any "help" taking all of Patala.

Back then I didn't realize Dayyālu set Impossible AI for this game. Anyway, I wouldn't do it in your shoes, unless you received a courtesy war declaration from Patala.

I have not received one yet, but if it helps an actual real opponent stay in the game while I grab a couple extra provinces and eliminate the annoyance of an impossible AI right next to me......might be worth it!

 

[Isiloon]

So i've killed Arco...

but if Grimwulf goes AI then we just have like 3 non-dead players and AI's that will inevitably defeat them. Do we want to end this game?

I was enjoying it TBH... I'm eyeing up Lemuria and Atlantis, have pretty decent economy (blood econ) - pumping out those devil spawning scrolls once every 3 turns, down to 2 and soon every turn...

will be pretty fucking sad if all if this was for naught! I even teleported my Baphomet ontop of Arco's capital to oversee the battle (he was supposed to cast flaming arrows on my horde of xbowmen) but decided he didn't need to and stayed out of the battle. Lemuria as an AI is not that scary because they can only recruit indie chaff and gems wont help them so much....

However Ulm going AI is 100% GG - nobody will beat Ulm on impossible difficulty, I sympathize with Grimwulf facing down cyber-monkey hordes, I'm guessing they get about 20-40 of each gem per turn and by the looks of their army comp, they recruit max troops (with bonus ofc) in every single province.... I mean without having incredible mage stacks where strategy can be employed, I don't see anything Grimwulf can do to possibly win. Bandar log has what - 125 province defence everywhere? :D

Grimwulf - if you want I can send a guy with about 100 devils to help you, maybe shake up Patala's armies... but yea its a losing battle, unless Grimwulf invents a spell that gimmicks the AI to death.

EDIT sorry nvermind about ulm I didnt see they lost their cap :D

 

[Isiloon]

I'm having a bad time

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Everyone has their battles they say

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[Grif]

So i've killed Arco...

but if Grimwulf goes AI then we just have like 3 non-dead players and AI's that will inevitably defeat them. Do we want to end this game?

I was enjoying it TBH... I'm eyeing up Lemuria and Atlantis, have pretty decent economy (blood econ) - pumping out those devil spawning scrolls once every 3 turns, down to 2 and soon every turn...

will be pretty fucking sad if all if this was for naught! I even teleported my Baphomet ontop of Arco's capital to oversee the battle (he was supposed to cast flaming arrows on my horde of xbowmen) but decided he didn't need to and stayed out of the battle. Lemuria as an AI is not that scary because they can only recruit indie chaff and gems wont help them so much....

However Ulm going AI is 100% GG - nobody will beat Ulm on impossible difficulty, I sympathize with Grimwulf facing down cyber-monkey hordes, I'm guessing they get about 20-40 of each gem per turn and by the looks of their army comp, they recruit max troops (with bonus ofc) in every single province.... I mean without having incredible mage stacks where strategy can be employed, I don't see anything Grimwulf can do to possibly win. Bandar log has what - 125 province defence everywhere? :D

Grimwulf - if you want I can send a guy with about 100 devils to help you, maybe shake up Patala's armies... but yea its a losing battle, unless Grimwulf invents a spell that gimmicks the AI to death.

EDIT sorry nvermind about ulm I didnt see they lost their cap :D

Yeah, even without their castle, they been recruiting indies like crazy. It's a good thing I put down their cap as soon as I realised the AI isn't stopped by mere mortal considerations such as "gold", "resources" or "manpower".

 

[KoolNoodles]

Bandar going AI at that point was kind of insane. They have a nice corner of provinces, a few forts.....not ideal!

 

[Grimwulf]

Can't find a freakin' sub. Goddamit. mondblut, I recall you love fighting AI - how about giving Bogarus a spin?

if it helps an actual real opponent stay in the game while I grab a couple extra provinces and eliminate the annoyance of an impossible AI right next to me......might be worth it!

If you want to feel the pain so much, I'm not gonna stop you. FYI, Patala has much greater numbers in surrounding area. To make things worse, their mages are full of gems, and spamming elementals like there is no tomorrow.

Everyone has their battles they say

You realize the guy has been chainstaling during the last 10 turns? He wasn't even set AI. What are you gloating about?

 

[Reinhardt]

Flesh is weak.

 

[Lizzurd]

I vote for closing the game. There is no fun to play against the masses of overpowered AI.

 

[Dayyālu]

Who'd be up for a rematch, same map, DIFFERENT ROLL, NO INSANE AIs?

I vote for closing the game. There is no fun to play against the masses of overpowered AI.

Agreeable.

 

[Grimwulf]

Who'd be up for a rematch, same map, DIFFERENT ROLL, NO INSANE AIs?

I'm up for it, but if you do a different roll, I might reconsider Pretender. Virtue was perfect for indy 9 setting, but that's it. I guess other players might want to to reconsider as well.

 

[KoolNoodles]

Can't find a freakin' sub. Goddamit. mondblut, I recall you love fighting AI - how about giving Bogarus a spin?

if it helps an actual real opponent stay in the game while I grab a couple extra provinces and eliminate the annoyance of an impossible AI right next to me......might be worth it!

If you want to feel the pain so much, I'm not gonna stop you. FYI, Patala has much greater numbers in surrounding area. To make things worse, their mages are full of gems, and spamming elementals like there is no tomorrow.

Everyone has their battles they say

You realize the guy has been chainstaling during the last 10 turns? He wasn't even set AI. What are you gloating about?

Have scouts all over, I am aware of some of the insane looking stacks. I'd be up for a re-roll, good start aside....it is getting a bit silly.

 

[Dayyālu]

REROLL

4 Magic Site frequency
Roll for High or for Low (I've done it for Research, should do it for everything else)
Roll: 5, Magic Site Frequency High (Highest I can set, I presume)

Same map, you can switch nations if you like.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Decline21TakeTwo

No Lemuria, danke.

 

[Infinitum]

Huh. Interesting read that. Are there any open spots left since you're rerolling? Wouldn't mind joining up in case.

 

[Dayyālu]

Huh. Interesting read that. Are there any open spots left since you're rerolling? Wouldn't mind joining up in case.

Send one freely. We don't have Arco, and I'll open a new spot if we need another one.

 

[Grif]

How do we go about rolling a random nation again? Also, masses of dyrad hops was fun, but I think it's time for something else. :D

 

[sqeecoo]

So if I gotta change my nation, can I pick R'lyeh?

 

[Infinitum]

Mmkay, claiming T'ien ch'i as my own! Now on to figure out what is best in life scaleswise.

 

[mondblut]

Sheesh, chicken. Couldn't you keep fighting the cyberhordes till the last man, like men?

 

[coldcrow]

Anything but monkeys. Abysia it is.