Jason Liang
Arcane
I've never understood codex's love for the shittiest of the three troika games
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So, what's your favorite RPG of all time? Why?
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Who mentioned ToEE?
All 3 of Troika's games are amazing in their own right. What are most of those guys up to today? I know Mitsoda did Dead State but what have the others worked on, if anything?
Who mentioned ToEE?
All 3 of Troika's games are amazing in their own right. What are most of those guys up to today? I know Mitsoda did Dead State but what have the others worked on, if anything?
Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky are at Obsidian working on their big secret project that gets teased every now and then.
Sykar
Arcane
I'd rather have a time machine to travel back and prevent them from ever doing any "EE" games one way or another.
i don't have any problems with the EEs but then I was never that emotionally attached to the BGees either. My formative western RPG experience was with FALLOUT 1, and when I later sought out other Interplay titles (i.e. BGees) all I could think about was how disappointing it was that they were shitty real-time games that played more like an RTS rather than proper RPGs with turn-based combat.
I think the people who sperg out too much over the EEs are the ones who grew up with BGees, but objectively speaking there is nothing "wrong" with the EEs other than the added content (which is skippable, but it's worse in BG2 EE).
...oh, and of course the fact that they're soulless cash-grabs from a talentless shovelware company who lucked into acquiring these licenses and is making a name and brand for itself by re-selling these games to people with no improvements; you know, the whole morality/ethics thing.
I think the people who sperg out too much over the EEs are the ones who grew up with BGees, but objectively speaking there is nothing "wrong" with the EEs other than the added content (which is skippable, but it's worse in BG2 EE).
...oh, and of course the fact that they're soulless cash-grabs from a talentless shovelware company who lucked into acquiring these licenses and is making a name and brand for itself by re-selling these games to people with no improvements; you know, the whole morality/ethics thing.
They are redundant and hardly more than overpriced patches.
BGT is a much better experience than BG1 EE.
The one thing that annoys me about the IE games is a certain lack of control, especially in the really hard battles. What an enchanced edition could to do to earn the name "enhanced" would be to provide things like individual LOS and an individual timer each round for each character (to see if you have time left in the round to quaff a potion or cast a spell, or how many attacks you have left, or if you only have time to adjust your position).
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This!! And not just because of combat. After Fallout set the bar so high, playing BG 1 or 2 always felt like eating an entire meal made of cotton candy. Sure it tastes sweet, but something about it just isn’t filling and after three or four hours it leaves you feeling kind of empty inside and maybe a little sick. I binged every Black Isle game (both developed and published) the Christmas break after they came out, and while the Fallouts always left me satisfied, something about playing BG 1&2 for extended periods made me hate myself. I liked them fine but they just didn’t scratch that itch.
Ivan
Arcane
Torment
Gothic 2
Fallout 1
New Vegas
Deus Ex
I haven't played some of the really old "classics"
Gothic 2
Fallout 1
New Vegas
Deus Ex
I haven't played some of the really old "classics"
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Torn between Morrowind (exploration, atmosphere, presentation, and still enough skills to not be a dumbed down action RPG) and Fallout: New Vegas (everything Morrowind had plus great quests, player agency, choices and consequences). These would definitely be my top two although the places are interchangeable.
For third place I'd probably pick The Witcher 3. It is fucking amazing at everything except the systems, which are shit (especially the skills, levelling and combat). Knights of Old Republic 2 is also excellent but has boring combat and a disappointing ending.
Other games which deserve honorable mentions include Trails in the Sky trilogy, Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2, Fallout 1 and 2, Planescape Torment, Vampire: Bloodlines, Mask of the Betrayer, Pillars of Eternity (fuck you if you're butthurt), Shadowrun: Dragonfall DC, Shadowrun: Hong Kong, Risen, Gothic 3 (see PoE)
Breaking it down:
Systems: Trails in the Sky trilogy, Trails of Cold Steel 1 & 2, Pillars of Eternity, Fallout, Fallout 2, Shadowrun: Dragonfall DC, Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Story/Questing: KOTOR 2, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape Torment, Vampire: Bloodlines, Mask of the Betrayer, The Witcher series
Exploration/Atmosphere: Gothic 3, The Witcher series, Risen, Morrowind, Fallout: New Vegas
Reactivity/Choices & Consequences: Fallout New Vegas, The Witcher series, Vampire: Bloodlines, KOTOR 2
For third place I'd probably pick The Witcher 3. It is fucking amazing at everything except the systems, which are shit (especially the skills, levelling and combat). Knights of Old Republic 2 is also excellent but has boring combat and a disappointing ending.
Other games which deserve honorable mentions include Trails in the Sky trilogy, Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2, Fallout 1 and 2, Planescape Torment, Vampire: Bloodlines, Mask of the Betrayer, Pillars of Eternity (fuck you if you're butthurt), Shadowrun: Dragonfall DC, Shadowrun: Hong Kong, Risen, Gothic 3 (see PoE)
Breaking it down:
Systems: Trails in the Sky trilogy, Trails of Cold Steel 1 & 2, Pillars of Eternity, Fallout, Fallout 2, Shadowrun: Dragonfall DC, Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Story/Questing: KOTOR 2, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape Torment, Vampire: Bloodlines, Mask of the Betrayer, The Witcher series
Exploration/Atmosphere: Gothic 3, The Witcher series, Risen, Morrowind, Fallout: New Vegas
Reactivity/Choices & Consequences: Fallout New Vegas, The Witcher series, Vampire: Bloodlines, KOTOR 2
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PorkBarrellGuy
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Too obvious, points for being bold but 3/10 overall. Undertale's an RPG like Noah's Ark 3D is an FPS.Undertale
I agree with most of that post but ^ WAT?! I also didn't like Fallouts because of the combat.
ntonystinson
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The 3 PC games I have spent the most time on are probably Football Manager, Skyrim and Mount & Blade Warband. Why? Endless Content I guess, Non Linear Path and Player Agency in a believable world
Sykar
Arcane
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