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Star Wars Battlefront 2 - now with lootbox drama

Cael

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Slow day or what the fuck?
But at least it's good to see that journalists are retarded no matter in what field they are. Even better that it all turned out to be a scam making their work even more useless and pathetic than usual.
Used to be the title "journalist" meant something. It meant professionalism, courage, honesty, impartiality, trustworthiness.
Now, it means activist, partisan, hack, deceitful, cowardly.
How the progtards have warped the ideal of journalism, just as they had destroyed the reputations of science and education.
 

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Slow day or what the fuck?
But at least it's good to see that journalists are retarded no matter in what field they are. Even better that it all turned out to be a scam making their work even more useless and pathetic than usual.
Used to be the title "journalist" meant something. It meant professionalism, courage, honesty, impartiality, trustworthiness.
Now, it means activist, partisan, hack, deceitful, cowardly.
How the progtards have warped the ideal of journalism, just as they had destroyed the reputations of science and education.
No, the journos have been like this since the turn of the last century. It's just that today it's easier to tell, because people have the possibility to circumnavigate the modernist mass-media again, in ways that they really haven't been able to for over 70 years.
 

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The Dutch have also joined the game!

Dutch Gambling Authority investigates 'lootboxes' in games

The Dutch Gambling Authority is investigating whether games with 'lootboxes' can be considered gambling. Online gambling is at the moment illegal in the Netherlands.

Players can in some games obtain so-called 'loot boxes'. These virtual boxes contain for example upgrades and outfits for characters. Players do not know beforehand what is inside such a lootbox. In a certain amount of games they can also be bought with real money.

At the moment several large online games make use of lootboxes. So can the potential gambling system be traced to the recently released Call of Duty WW2 and the Star Wars-game Battlefront II which appears next Friday.

"Especially with minors does the risk exist that they can predict the consequences of such games with difficulty", warned the Gambling Authority recently. The games could be addictive and even lead to gambling debts.

No permit system
"Suppose we assume it's about gambling", tells a spokesperson of the Gambling Authority to NU.nl. "In the Netherlands gambling always requires a permit. For online gambling we do not have a permit system in place yet."

"If someone then offers online gambling, then this party is in violation of the law. In the worst case it could result in enforcing action or a sanction for the provider."

This could mean that the selling of games with lootboxes could be potentially prohibited, until a new law for online gambling has been approved. A law concerning this has been assumed by the Second Chamber and lies at the moment with the First Chamber.

Second Chamber-member Michiel van Nispen (SP) has asked chamberquestions on Thursday towards the Ministry for Protection of Rights about lootbox-games. Hereby was asked amongst other things whether the minister will plan to spread awareness about the risk of these games.

Not yet that far
The Gambling Authority emphasizes to not have reached the point yet that games with lootboxes can be considered gambling. "We're only in the research phase as of yet." The authority also refuses to comment about specific games.

Shopping franchise Game Mania says to handle the final conclusion of the investigation appropriately. "How that will be made visible in the store we do not know yet", says marketing manager Tom Henderikx. "It's too early to make further comments about that considering it currently only concerns an investigation."

In October SuperData Research carried out an investigation at the behest of the Gambling Authority towards the relation between online gaming and gambling. The investigation concluded that some minors may switch from games to gambling.

The Belgian Gambling Commission also started this week an investigation towards lootboxes in games, according to VTM Nieuws.

A spokesperson of the European age classification system PEGI says to await the judgement of the Gambling Authority. "We're looking regardless into ways to inform consumers better about additional purchasing opportunities in games." At the moment PEGI has Android-apps show whether they contain in-app purchases.

Star Wars
The online game Star Wars Battlefront II came under fire this week, partially because the developer sells lootboxes. Besides that player are critical about the high price of certain upgrades in the game.

Publisher Electronic Arts (EA) lowered the costs of upgrades after the outrage. However, players are now complaining that less rewards are being given out for the completion of the singleplayer campaign.
 

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Wow. One time I picked a divination kit... and was at least decent at it.

I want EA to pay, hohoho
 

Cael

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Yes, we will turn off ingame purchases. Have fun spending the next 400 hours unlocking Vader, dorks!

:D:D:D
 

Fedora Master

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"This was never our intention" = "We have no intention of not ripping our customers off but we misjudged exactly how gullible you guys are. Microtransactions will return once this has blown over."
 

Daedalos

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So EA finally caved in and removed buying stuff for now.

It seems crystal clear, that Disney sent an email to EA and told them to get their shit together cos last jedi is around in 3 weeks and they dont want anybody talking bad bout star wurs.

This fixes the problems for now.

Tho, the last thing need is to up the credit gain, so progression grind isnt as long.
 

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On the front page of CNN now:

Star Wars video game maker apologizes after uproar from fans

The company behind the new Star Wars video game has turned off a money-spinning part of it after an outcry from angry fans and scrutiny from regulators.
Gamers had complained in recent days that it takes huge amounts of time -- or money -- to unlock features in Star Wars Battlefront II. Regulators in Belgium, meanwhile, are looking at whether the game constitutes a form of gambling.

Some Star Wars fans who paid roughly $60 to buy Battlefront II were upset to find that optional charges built into the game can cost them hundreds more.

"We hear you loud and clear, so we're turning off all in-game purchases," said Oskar Gabrielson, the general manager of the unit of gaming giant Electronic Arts (EA, Tech30) that developed Battlefront II. "We will now spend more time listening, adjusting, balancing and tuning."

Related: The new Star Wars video game is under attack

Fans were angry because Battlefront II essentially gave players a choice. They could spend a huge number of hours collecting in-game credits to unlock new features and cooler characters, or pay real money to get them instantly.

In the gaming world, this is called "pay to win." It's not unusual, but the format has typically been used in mobile games that are free to download.

Some gamers calculated that it would take six years of playing two hours a day to unlock all the features in Battlefront II without handing over any real money. Paying for everything, meanwhile, would cost over $2,000.

"It's a complete ripoff and the multiplayer is rigged for whoever is willing to spend more money," one gamer said on Twitter last week. "It is designed to make you spend more money after buying."




"We've heard the concerns about potentially giving players unfair advantages," Gabrielson said. "And we've heard that this is overshadowing an otherwise great game. This was never our intention. Sorry we didn't get this right."

Previously, the game developers had tried to placate fans by reducing the cost of unlocking "hero" characters by 75%.

The in-game purchases aren't gone forever, though.

Gabrielson said they would return "at a later date, only after we've made changes to the game."

Related: Nintendo exec: Failed Wii U is responsible for Switch's success

His statement didn't directly address the concerns of the Belgian Gaming Commission, which is investigating how players in Battlefront II and similar games are rewarded by unlocking "loot boxes."

The idea is that players pay real money to unlock a virtual "loot box" without knowing what kind of reward is inside. They also don't know how many boxes they might need to unlock in order to finish the game.

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Peter Naessens, general director of the Belgian Gaming Commission, said the regulator is examining whether the rewards are allocated by chance, and whether this might constitute a form of gambling.

In Belgium, companies involved in gambling are required to have a license. Minors and people with gambling addiction problems are not allowed to play.

Related: New 'Star Wars' trilogy with new characters in development

Electronic Arts has dismissed the idea that its game falls into that category, saying that the "mechanics of Star Wars Battlefront II are not gambling."

"A player's ability to succeed in the game is not dependent on purchasing [loot boxes]," it said in a statement. "Players can also earn [loot boxes] through playing the game and not spending any money at all."

Star Wars owner Disney (DIS) did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/16/technology/battlefront-ii-star-wars-game-ea-costs/index.html

So what's the deal here? Overwatch works on a similar principal, but the changes are purely cosmetic. Is that what the problem is here, that upgrades give advantages in game-play and are not purely cosmetic?
 

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So what's the deal here? Overwatch works on a similar principal, but the changes are purely cosmetic. Is that what the problem is here, that upgrades give advantages in game-play and are not purely cosmetic?

Precisely.

In Flash MMO games the discrepency gets even worse due to regular events and challenges held in game. Those who had paid to get the power upgrades basically steamroll everyone else and come out on top, which nets them the biggest prizes, which in turn widens the power gap even more. That was likely to happen in Battlegrounds as well. That is the impetus for people to spend.

Flash MMOs are notorious for having paid professional trolls populate their games in order to inflame players into buying upgrade to beat the trolls, who after a few beatings get new stuff to be more powerful and so on with the arms race.

In game microtransactions are an extremely deceptive way to make money, on par with fraudsters bilking people out of their money.
 
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This one made me LOL hard.

As for why they're folding - they're more concerned about making the game's release date "look good" rather than the current or continued opinion of the players. They'll shove the microtransactions back in there before you know it.
 

fantadomat

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EA seems desperate to me. After the giant flop named andromeda,a second big franchise going down will have some negative effect on the company. If anthem becomes another flop,then we could see EA going down. Those games are worth a lot to make,and half a decade of loosing money is not a small thing.
 

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