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Nioh: Feudal Era Dark Souls

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I held off on buying it on consoles due to the hideous IQ in Action Mode (sub-1080p + no AA or AF), which is the only way to play a game like this properly. I'm really glad I chose that route.

The game itself looks amazing though and I'm glad it put Team Ninja back on the map after a couple shit tier releases.
 

Hyperion

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Hyperion, my brother, unfortunately I could not find your grave, but I salute you for your generosity.:salute:

Also, what the fuck. While looking for your grave I killed a Revenant that gave me 8 million Amrita? What gives? Is there a mechanic that you get something of what the Revenant was carrying at the time of death?

Died another 4 times, all times right outside the cave, just to the left of the start. Hope you can find a Level 182 corpse with a dual katana.

I think I killed that guy too. He was wielding a Blue Hammer, but had like 7,500 life. He may have been one of those guys who was level 750 before they changed the leveling schemed and put a cap per difficulty
 

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture
I can't be the only one who's started this and keeps pressing the right shoulder button to attack and wondering why my muscle-bound oaf is just standing there?

Sometimes muscle memory isn't such a good thing...
 

Jinn

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I've made it to Onryoki and I just wanted to pop in to say that this game is fucking AWESOME. The action is so good and the mechanics seem surprisingly deep. While the random loot and its drop rate does seem a little overkill, it's actually done in a pretty fun way. If anyone is watching this thread and on the fence about getting it for PC, I would highly recommend it. The port seems fine and the game has been running very smooth at 60fps for me.
 
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Urbanolo

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I just defeated the centipede pushover boss or whatever, the game is really really fun, definitely not souls-like, but still great, however the 'living weapon' or whatever it's called is straight out I WIN button.

My usual tactic was to chip away a boss carefully till 40% health, then press 2 awesome buttons and kill him in 3 seconds. Dunno if it changes later on, but so far it's working. Also the vampire lady boss is such a strange difficulty bump, not sure if it was a good design, especially since we go back to smooth sailing just after her.

What's more it's the only game in the last 5 years or so that I've played that I just auto skip every cutscene. Maybe I'm missing much, but from what I've watched for the first 2 missions the story is utter garbage, thankfully the gameplay makes up for it.
 

Ezekiel

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Just beat the fucking bitch in the cave. That's what I called her, out loud, as I was fighting her. I'm save-scumming. I don't know how I'd have the patience to play this game without save-scumming at bosses. Having to farm healing items after every failure would piss me off so much. I like this game, though. I really do. It has decent combat and good exploration. The British prison was a lame opening area, but the coast and the cave were pretty good.

I'm skipping all the cutscenes. I just can't be bothered with cutscenes anymore. Unless I'm sure the game has a pretty good story.

Runs well so far. I thought I'd have to lower the res to 1920x1080 with my GTX 780, but I'm getting a pretty solid 60 fps (with a few slow downs) at 2560x1440. It's a good looking game.

What's more it's the only game in the last 5 years or so that I've played that I just auto skip every cutscene. Maybe I'm missing much, but from what I've watched for the first 2 missions the story is utter garbage, thankfully the gameplay makes up for it.
You too? I thought I'd be the odd one out.

I can't be the only one who's started this and keeps pressing the right shoulder button to attack and wondering why my muscle-bound oaf is just standing there?

Sometimes muscle memory isn't such a good thing...
What I sometimes do is press A to attempt to pick up stuff. I've also used B to attempt to run. Not much, though.
 
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Ausdoerrt

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Yeah, that vampire lady can go to hell. The game's pretty evil for giving you a fairly slow, telegraphing first boss and then throwing in a second that's just the opposite. Still working on a strategy - the ranged attacks I can avoid (mostly), but her kicks do me in very quickly. And I can barely hit her, cause she moves around so damn much.
 

Ezekiel

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Having to farm healing items after every failure would piss me off so much.
You get free healing items after you visit the shrine. Wtf.
The problem is that I use them and then fail. I can't beat these bosses with just three heals. I preferred the estus flask.

I don't know how I'd have the patience to play this game without save-scumming at bosses. Having to farm healing items after every failure would piss me off so much.

If you need more than you already have, then you're playing it wrong and you need to git gud. I beat Hino-Enma with just 3 elixirs and I'm bad at this game.

Also, you don't need to farm shit, just get the Kodama and they give you extra elixirs everytime you respawn or visit a shrine. If you don't want to look for them, just use a guide. Here's a good one that I used to get the ones I was missing, comes with pictures to easily identify their location - http://www.gamersheroes.com/game-guides/nioh-guide-kodama-location-guide/

Later you'll be able to increase your elixir capacity further by buying skills. I can carry 11 right now which is way more than enough since boss fights, as you progress, will tend to end in a couple of minutes at most.
So that's why I have four now. I've collected a lot of them already. I'm not gonna use a guide. Like I said, the exploration is good. I don't wanna ruin that with a guide. I could probably beat that first boss with three heals now. I still had a few left when I beat the bitch.
 
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Ausdoerrt

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Having to farm healing items after every failure would piss me off so much.
You get free healing items after you visit the shrine. Wtf.
Erm, what? As far as I understand, you have a finite stock of healing items that get replenished at a shrine, but if you run out, you're out until you farm more.

Later you'll be able to increase your elixir capacity further by buying skills. I can carry 11 right now which is way more than enough since boss fights, as you progress, will tend to end in a couple of minutes at most.
Yeah, thanks, I sort of figured most of that out, too, as I fought her. The moves you list are indeed quite easy to dodge and have obvious tells. It's more a matter of getting the timing down and not getting impatient. That's especially true for the melee moves, as they're pretty quick and I'm rocking light armor, so a couple of hits is all that it takes.
 

PrettyDeadman

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I've summoned one bad boi who oneshotted one eyed tiger boss for me.
Frost lady was also defeated with a help of a summon.
 

PrettyDeadman

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I've also made a Spearfall build, get all the neccesery loots and spear fall does pretty bad damage. WTF.
 

PrettyDeadman

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I've also made a Spearfall build, get all the neccesery loots and spear fall does pretty bad damage. WTF.
Spearfall's main attraction is that it can easily break horns off Yokai and some other enemies you will meet in the DLC (and I think it might even be able to one shot another type but I haven't tried it on them yet) and deplete their Ki and knock down human enemies even if they still have Ki enabling you to perform a Final Blow on them. Pair it with Kingo's armor set for the 2 piece-bonus which gives you +15% Final Blow Damage and the passive from the Kusarigama skill tree which also increases Final Blow damage.

If you don't mind a spoiler for a future boss, watch this:

I am rocking full red demon set with a lucky +17% damage from skills on one of the pieces. It's supposed to do insane damage, but it simply doesn't.
Like rpg guy made a video where he 2 shotted red demon guy with it and he claimed that they are the same level, yet I need like 6-9 spearfalls to kill (with fatal blows).
 

PrettyDeadman

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Like rpg guy made a video where he 2 shotted red demon guy with it and he claimed that they are the same level, yet I need like 6-9 spearfalls to kill (with fatal blows).
And do you believe everything you see? Mind you, a lot of shit you see regarding builds no longer applies since Team Ninja is trigger happy with the nerf gun.

Also, Gib link.

 

Ausdoerrt

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You always get 3 elixirs when you respawn/rest at the shrine no matter what. The more Kodama you find in a region the more elixirs you get for free (+1 for every 5 Kodama in that region as far as I know) upon respawning/rest. You also can pick up more from enemies that drop them. You have a limit to how many elixirs you can carry. That capacity can be expanded from the Ninjutsu skill tree with 11 again AFAIK being the max capacity. Elixirs that you pick up over capacity are sent to the storehouse and automatically replenish your carried number up to carrying capacity IF you didn't get enough from the shrine to reach said limit.
Oh reeeeeally. Good info, thanks!

I swear to god, the game's so abstruse at times. One would think they'd explain basic game mechanics like this at the start of the game. Instead we got some silly London Tower.

Don't be afraid to try heavy armor. Your speed is just fine between 25% and 70% equip load. I even went above 80% in the later stages of the game and still did fine. Mix it up according to the situation and what you think you need more at the time, speed or defence.
Yeah, maybe I will if I can't beat her like this. Didn't have the time to try last night. I usually tend to go for heavy armor, so I decided I'd try something out of my comfort zone this time around.

Or maybe I'll put on the Archer Garb and shoot her to death, lol.
 

Ausdoerrt

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Finally beat the bitch by abusing "Random Slice" in mid stance, as well as Hamaya arrows (turned out bow auto-aims if you pull it out while she's flying).
 

Kruno

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I am finding this game too easy. Beat the vampire chick in almost no time with my Odachi in heavy stance (bait and smash). Will the bosses get much harder later on?
 

Mr. Pink

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PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
to all those still having trouble with hino enma:

1. equip paralysis charms and armor for gods sake. none of the moves she does will oneshot you even if you have weak armor on (except for the grab), so raising your paralysis resistance is crucial. try to get your resistance over 25.

2. the 3 hit kick combo and the 2-3 hit umbrella combo are the best opportunities to get dmg in.

3. you can block everything she throws at you except the paralysis ball.

the fight is probably easiest with spear or kusarigama because you can safely poke her while she's kicking. hino enma is probably the easiest boss to fight once you get in the hang of her because of her limited moveset and predictability.


You always get 3 elixirs when you respawn/rest at the shrine no matter what. The more Kodama you find in a region the more elixirs you get for free (+1 for every 5 Kodama in that region as far as I know) upon respawning/rest. You also can pick up more from enemies that drop them. You have a limit to how many elixirs you can carry. That capacity can be expanded from the Ninjutsu skill tree with 11 again AFAIK being the max capacity. Elixirs that you pick up over capacity are sent to the storehouse and automatically replenish your carried number up to carrying capacity IF you didn't get enough from the shrine to reach said limit.

where did you figure this out? i have 50 hours in this game and I had no idea it worked like that.
 

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I am finding this game too easy. Beat the vampire chick in almost no time with my Odachi in heavy stance (bait and smash). Will the bosses get much harder later on?

depends on your weapon choice and gear. the whole first half of the game is full of monster type bosses that are pretty easy to smash around with odachi/axe, but the second half is full of super fast humanoid bosses that will deplete your ki and destroy you with quick attacks. I hope you're good at parrying.
 

Jinn

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Well, I'm starting over today because I picked the outrageous combo of Tonfa and Odachi. It just wasn't going to work out stat wise for the long play, I don't think. Now I'm going to try kusarigama, dual sword, and ninjutsu build out. I like the fast action in this, so I think I'll have fun using these two, unless anyone has a really good reason not to.
 

Ausdoerrt

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I'm doing sword / dual sword + ninjutsu. Dual sword can be crazy fun (and strong), but I find that I occasionally need to rely on the slower but stronger single sword.

Ninjutsu is bundles of fun, but some support abilities are a trap with poor descriptions. Make sure to google before you level up :)
 

Damned Registrations

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Are any of the weapons especially good for depleting enemy ki when you actually land hits? I know the heavier ones + tonfa (love tonfa btw, low strong > quick combo is sick) have higher break (more ki damage vs blocks) but no info on ki damage when landing hits.
 

Damned Registrations

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Well, I'm starting over today because I picked the outrageous combo of Tonfa and Odachi. It just wasn't going to work out stat wise for the long play, I don't think. Now I'm going to try kusarigama, dual sword, and ninjutsu build out. I like the fast action in this, so I think I'll have fun using these two, unless anyone has a really good reason not to.
I'd do single sword instead of dual, theres a pretty OP looking set that requires using kusarigama + single sword for ninjas.
 

Damned Registrations

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Most weapons seem to have some sort of ki draining skill, but most seem awkward and ineffective to actually use. Maybe it's just poorly balanced and I shouldn't bother. Some enemies lose ki easily, others don't, and forcing it is just handicapping yourself.

So far the best attack I've found for draining ki is actually the high strong attack from kusarigama- it drains a ton of ki and has huge range. The various kicks and such seem to basically be like heavy attacks except only the ki damage is heavy. They're blockable, slow, leave long recovery windows and don't cause knockdowns. I was hoping there was some item or set I was missing out on that would justify their weaknesses.
 

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