Super Serious Scientific Analysis and Critique of BG2:SoA

[Reapa]

feminist social justice warriors of the codex.

Can you cite a single post by me - here, or anywhere online - that proves I'm a feminist or SJW? I'm no more a feminist or SJW than Infinitron is a mysogynist.

so you admit it.

 

[Sykar]

feminist social justice warriors of the codex.

Can you cite a single post by me - here, or anywhere online - that proves I'm a feminist or SJW? I'm no more a feminist or SJW than Infinitron is a mysogynist.

Could not have anything to do with the fact that you use the same tactics



Replace "white" with "codex" and you are all set.

 

[Leitz]

I will never understand the holy triangle BG2-Planescape-Arcanum. I will never understand...

 

[Iznaliu]

I will never understand the holy triangle BG2-Planescape-Arcanum. I will never understand...

Wake up; are you headed into Lilura's dungeon to be used as forced labour while hypnotically being forced to worship her?

 

[pomenitul]

forced labour

That's quite the euphemism.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

I will never understand the holy triangle BG2-Planescape-Arcanum.

Trying to understand the holy triangle has been males' curse since the dawn of time. But you've got the wrong one here anyway, it's supposed to be Fallout-Planescape-Arcanum. BG2 ain't enough.

 

[Lilura]

Trying to understand the holy triangle has been males' curse since the dawn of time. But you've got the wrong one here anyway, it's supposed to be Fallout-Planescape-Arcanum. BG2 ain't enough.

But not a woman's curse; I agree with your triangle (in regards to pure RPGs, anyway).

***

On the side, I sense petty envy and fear of women in this thread, especially from the jerk circle.

 

[Reapa]

Trying to understand the holy triangle has been males' curse since the dawn of time. But you've got the wrong one here anyway, it's supposed to be Fallout-Planescape-Arcanum. BG2 ain't enough.

But not a woman's curse; I agree with your triangle (in regards to pure RPGs, anyway).

***

On the side, I sense petty envy and fear of women in this thread, especially from the jerk circle.

well, they do have teeth.

 

[Incantatar]

Just so you know, blogs live and die on how many comments they get, mainly because I don't like talking to myself and would run back into the open arms of Diablo 2 Battle.net if I had no input from readers, many of whom know just as much if not more than me about classic RPGs

Blog is moderated due to influx of spammers, trolls and bigots. I can spot a troll a mile off and hit it right between the eyes with fire and acid.

Comments of a personal, political and religious nature are ignored. Comments with "isms" are ignored. Blatantly off-topic comments are ignored.

 

[Cael]

Just so you know, blogs live and die on how many comments they get, mainly because I don't like talking to myself and would run back into the open arms of Diablo 2 Battle.net if I had no input from readers, many of whom know just as much if not more than me about classic RPGs

Blog is moderated due to influx of spammers, trolls and bigots. I can spot a troll a mile off and hit it right between the eyes with fire and acid.

Comments of a personal, political and religious nature are ignored. Comments with "isms" are ignored. Blatantly off-topic comments are ignored.

:incloosive:

 

[fantadomat]

feminist social justice warriors of the codex.

Can you cite a single post by me - here, or anywhere online - that proves I'm a feminist or SJW? I'm no more a feminist or SJW than Infinitron is a mysogynist.

You do know that he is jew....right ?!
PS: I love women!

 

[Leitz]

I will never understand the holy triangle BG2-Planescape-Arcanum.

Trying to understand the holy triangle has been males' curse since the dawn of time. But you've got the wrong one here anyway, it's supposed to be Fallout-Planescape-Arcanum. BG2 ain't enough.

Not true. People don't fight as hard for Fallout as they do for BG2; BG2, Arcanum, Planescape are the RPGs that people here fight the hardest for. ...oh and Morrowind

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

I was always under the impression that PST/Arcanum/Fallout was the holy trilogy around here. It's not necessarily an opinion that I share 100 % though, just some basic codex lore since we're, well... on the codex.

 

[Leitz]

Look at this thread. People never knew why they liked BG2. The make me the victim.

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

Look at this thread. People never knew why they liked BG2. The make me the victim.

To be fair, I'm someone who couldn't really get into BG2 on my first try, lasted about 10 hours, so if you're going to be criticising BG2 then someone like me is presumably your audience. However, even I found your posts on the topic really quite retarded. & yes, BG2 is way down the codex love-list, no idea why you think it's a top-drawer here.

 

[Iznaliu]

yes, BG2 is way down the codex love-list, no idea why you think it's a top-drawer here

It's #4 on the Codex list of Top 72 RPGs (after PS:T, FO1, and FO2; Arcanum is #5). You can interpret that how you want, but clearly the list wasn't procedurally generated.

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

yes, BG2 is way down the codex love-list, no idea why you think it's a top-drawer here

It's #4 on the Codex list of Top 72 RPGs (after PS:T, FO1, and FO2; Arcanum is #5). You can interpret that how you want, but clearly the list wasn't procedurally generated.

Well, it's a lot lower down than that on the current polls, and the current polls consider popularity over fanboy 5* ratings. The current poll has it struggling to be in the top 10 and the more expected codex favourites all well out-performing it, such as Arcanum, Dues Ex, the two Fallouts, Morrowind and PS:T, and, to be entirely honest, if you actually read the forum on a regular basis, which I assume you do being as you have a one-liner for every thread on the site, you would know instinctively that all these games get mentioned probably 10x more than BG2 on a daily basis. The only reason this thread got to 10 pages so quickly is because of one dedicated fanboy, Lilura going maximum aggression.

BG2 would be best described as "the best of the rest" with regards to these forums rather than a specifically codex classic.

 

[Serus]

I was always under the impression that PST/Arcanum/Fallout was the holy trilogy around here. It's not necessarily an opinion that I share 100 % though, just some basic codex lore since we're, well... on the codex.

The real classic holy trilogy should be: Fallout - Fallout 2 - Jagged Alliance 2

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

I was always under the impression that PST/Arcanum/Fallout was the holy trilogy around here. It's not necessarily an opinion that I share 100 % though, just some basic codex lore since we're, well... on the codex.

The real classic holy trilogy should be: Fallout - Fallout 2 - Jagged Alliance 2

Yes, JA2 has polled better than BG2 as well.

 

[Lilura]

I'm pretty sure Lonely Vazdru was talking about pure RPGs. Jagged Alliance 2 is the best tactical turn-based game ever, though. I recently posted a starting point write-up that gives a rundown on some of its notable features. It's a much more interesting read than the cRPG book write-up, which seems to have been written by a clueless ESL student. I posted a critique on that write-up which felipepepe didn't seem to appreciate (though he'll likely rewrite it as a result).

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

I'm pretty sure Lonely Vazdru was talking about pure RPGs.

Yes, I was.

Jagged Alliance 2 is the best tactical turn-based game ever, though..

Yes, it is.

 

[Reapa]

I'm pretty sure Lonely Vazdru was talking about pure RPGs. Jagged Alliance 2 is the best tactical turn-based game ever, though. I recently posted a starting point write-up that gives a rundown on some of its notable features. It's a much more interesting read than the cRPG book write-up, which seems to have been written by a clueless ESL student. I posted a critique on that write-up which felipepepe didn't seem to appreciate (though he'll likely rewrite it as a result).

You are doing God's work, Lilura

 

[felipepepe]

I'm pretty sure Lonely Vazdru was talking about pure RPGs. Jagged Alliance 2 is the best tactical turn-based game ever, though. I recently posted a starting point write-up that gives a rundown on some of its notable features. It's a much more interesting read than the cRPG book write-up, which seems to have been written by a clueless ESL student. I posted a critique on that write-up which felipepepe didn't seem to appreciate (though he'll likely rewrite it as a result).

You mean when you came to the Codex to promote your new LP, criticized my book on the OP without even tagging me and then deleted your criticism and all the embarrassing posts where you say that Shanga, one of the guys behind JA2 1.13, doesn't know the game as much as you?

Yeah, I did take the criticism and asked Shanga for some changes. Thanks.

 

[Lilura]

You mean when you came to the Codex to promote your new LP, criticized my book on the OP without even tagging me and then deleted your criticism and all the embarrassing posts where you say that Shanga, one of the guys behind JA2 1.13, doesn't know the game as much as you?

Yeah, I did take the criticism and asked Shanga for some changes. Thanks.

I'm not embarrassed; I just decided not to clog up my OP with criticism of that write-up. As for not tagging you, that was an innocent oversight on my behalf that you shouldn't have taken to heart; it wasn't like I was trying to criticize you underhandedly.

At any rate, I'm glad you took the criticism on-board. May your cRPG book become half as monocled as my blog some day.

 

[Negromancer]

The only good thing about BG2 are the boss battles. The rest is inferior to BG1.

expand on that.

I don't like the graphics of BG2 because they're too stylized. Every place, room, plane, laboratory tries to look as outlandish and exotic as possible. I never liked that. I like it simple and pure like FALLOUT and JAGGED ALLIANCE 2.

Story in BG1 is better (it makes sense!). BG2 feels like a twist-dragger-story (what ever that is).

No exploration feel in BG2.

BG1 has Durlag's Tower; I was disappointed with every dungeon in BG2. I never liked planes in RPGs, again: they just try to be exotic and outlandish. I always end up thinking about the smile of the designer who is so proud of himself.


I guess if you replay these games a lot, BG2 is the better choice though and the battles are glorious.

Watcher's Keep tower is far more interesting and challenging than Durlag's Tower which have only two interestings level.

But i agree, I find BG1 less fashion and uber, more humble and the story is very classic but cool.

In BG 2 you are a god, you are op, you kill gods, dragons , mages are ridiculously strong.

But in BG2 you have far more better interactions between char, with romance ( love triangle with Haer'Dalis, Aerie and CHARNAME , destructive and passionate relation with viconia, you can corrupt Anomen etc.. ) , deeper lore ( the bound between you and Imoen is explained, you learn much more about the prophecy, your powers, you see lot of powerful creatures you never saw before ) .

BG1 was a pain as a mage, often OS by the bountyhunter at the first castle, in term of gameplay, its more interesting because you have more customization ( class kits ) and more tools ( level 7 sacred spells and 8/9 unholy spells).

And who never liked stop the time then hit 10 times with the holy Carsormyr then see your ennemy explode in hundred piece of sliced flesh.?

Btw Viconia is the phantasm of every nerd in the universe, body of a pornstar, psychotic , SM tendancies