Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus - set in Nazi occupied America

[Lyric Suite]

Game is not Doom but none are anymore.
Expecting it to be is your own fault.

Right, which makes anybody who buys this a moron, politics or no politics.

 

[Belegarsson]

Help me remember, it's been a while since I've played TNO. Has the phrase "white Nazi scum" ever been used in that game? It was always just "Nazi scum" as far as I remember.

Yeah, he said "nazi scum" while slitting a soldier's throat in the first game. I just played through the meeting resistance part, that "white nazi pigs" line came out of nowhere even his tone felt awkward as fuck.

Anyway, about gameplay, shooting is still solid but for some reasons normal soldiers feel a bit more spongey while ubersoldatens are more fragile Doom's weapon upgrade system makes an appearance which is a for me. Can't speak much about level design since I haven't played much, but so far I find gunplay to be more refined than TNO.

 

[Markman]

We agree to disagree then.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Does the level design ever open up because from those vids it looks like more corridor-y than Call of Dooty.

 

[DeepOcean]

It's a pointless argument. SJWs aren't interested in helping the poor. They are interested in destroying white people and western society, because they now see class in purely racial terms. Make all the people at the bottom minorities and the people at the top white and male and you'll get a glimpse at how they see the world.

Mah, God, I should tell my cousin how he is privileged for having less melanin than me, of course, he earns a brazillian minimum wage, but this is just a tiny little detail, his melanin makes him king of the world like Leonardo DiCaprio.

 

[Dexter]

Its all made just to be over the top,funny, cringy, you name it. I doubt Machine Games were making any statement with this rollercoaster.

Tell them that:






If they run their Marketing like a Political campaign with constant parallels to Trump they're going to be judged based on it.

 

[DosBuster]

So now Blazkowicz is jewish, lol.

Always has been.

Only half jewish, but he rejects the other half that is a "white KKK scum"

Actually, in order to be born completely jewish you only require your mother be jewish, the father has no effect. In fact, if your father was jewish and your mother was not you would not be considered jewish from birth.

 

[Infinitron]

He was also COMMANDER KEEN's grandfather, so I guess the lulz/seriousness dissonance mentioned by Durandal was secretly there from the start?

Does BJ's wife give birth during the game? If so, one of the kids better be named Arthur: http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Arthur_Kenneth_Blaze

 

[DosBuster]

Hah, what if one of the reasons they're only suddenly mentioning BJ being jewish is that Machine Games only found out about it via these tweets?

 

[ArchAngel]

Game is not Doom but none are anymore.
Expecting it to be is your own fault.

Right, which makes anybody who buys this a moron, politics or no politics.

That is a bit too much to claim. With being able to watch the whole game on Youtube I would add that it is more about those people having too much money.

 

[fantadomat]

So now Blazkowicz is jewish, lol.

Always has been.

Only half jewish, but he rejects the other half that is a "white KKK scum"

Actually, in order to be born completely jewish you only require your mother be jewish, the father has no effect. In fact, if your father was jewish and your mother was not you would not be considered jewish from birth.

Wasn't it based on the sex of the kid? Boys are jews if the father is a jew and girls are jew is the mother is?

 

[vonAchdorf]

If they run their Marketing like a Political campaign with constant parallels to Trump they're going to be judged based on it.

Infinitron rightly characterized their marketing as "exploitative and gross".

 

[fantadomat]

From what i see on steamchrat and steamspy the game is doing very poorly. That makes me happy,would love to see those swedish cucks go under. Every swedish dev studio is a combination progressive ignorant stupid cucks that like to suck arab's dicks. I hope Putin decide to make whole scandinavian peninsula a glass desert. What else to do with a place where rape tourism is a real thing,no joke here.

 

[Black Plague]

In fact, if your father was jewish and your mother was not you would not be considered jewish from birth.

The only reason for this is you can never be sure of the father.

 

[mondblut]

I hope Putin decide to make whole scandinavian peninsula a glass desert.

He is too busy making whole russia a glass desert. Maybe later.

 

[Multidirectional]

Sargon attempts to stream this, only lasts an hour before switching to Civ 6. Interesting to see from a perspective of someone who never plays FPS.



I lasted only bit longer than him when "demoing". I don't remember TNO being this fucking cringe inducing.

 

[Ash]

I personally don't really care if the game has SJW themes and allegories. All I care about is whether or not it's a good game independent of story. Judging by the New Order, it's not. Not to mention the reported playtime/cutscene ratio of this one again shows the priorities of the developer.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Peter_Trumbauer

Peter Trumbauer is a mention character in Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus Nazis pilot responsible for bombing New York city with the atomic bomb called ''Der Bestrafer''. He is hailed as a hero by the Nazis.

Really subtle.

 

[flyingjohn]

You know i don't think these writers are doing a good job in forcing you to admire their work of art.
There should be a quiz after every single cut scene and if you fail it your saves should be wiped out so you can enjoy the amazing writing some more.

 

[Multidirectional]

I personally don't really care if the game has SJW themes and allegories. All I care about is whether or not it's a good game independent of story. Judging by the New Order, it's not. Not to mention the reported playtime/cutscene ratio of this one again shows the priorities of the developer.

Which is when you start caring about themes the game has. It's bad enough when you have to watch a lot of long cutscenes. It's multiple times worse when these cutscenes are infuriatingly retarded. I don't see myself being able to play through this for free, God have mercy on people who actually paid for this..

 

[vonAchdorf]

Didn't they market the recent re-reboots of Wolfenstein (before this one) as old-school shooters? Seems counterintuitive to make a cutscene heavy story social commentary shooter out of them.

 

[Ash]

They did. It was bullshit. It was very much a linear cinematic modern shitfest. Sure it didn't have a two weapon limit, and hipfire wasn't severely gimped, but there was no saving a design philosophy consisting of extreme emphasis on heavy scripting and cutscenes, as well as mostly linear level design. It was very much a story driven game, everything was in service to telling a story, and not a particularly good one (though the cutscenes were still well done). There was moments of actual worthwhile content in there, mostly when it was you, your guns against nazis in a semi-open area without too much interruption, but these were few and far between. And even if these rare few levels were open, they were still designed primarily around and in service to realism rather than gameplay. As is the modern standard.

There was also so many segments that just dropped the ball so hard, like they have you go through an extensive sewer/water processing system to sneak into a base, it goes on for quite some time, and they didn't do absolutely ANYTHING with it. So you're just swimming for like 15 minutes doing...nothing. No puzzles, no platforming, no shooting, and even minimal storytelling. The only gameplay I recall is pure navigation of a "maze" (wasn't really all that maze-like), which is fine (great even) when combined with other elements of gameplay as was the old school standard, but on its own? So many boring, ball-dropped moments in that game that don't really serve any meaningful or engaging purpose.

 

[ArchAngel]

They did. It was bullshit. It was very much a linear cinematic modern shitfest. Sure it didn't have a two weapon limit, and hipfire wasn't severely gimped, but there was no saving a philosophy consisting of extreme emphasis on heavy scripting and cutscenes, as well as mostly linear level design. It was very much a story driven game, everything was in service to telling a story, and not a particularly good one (though the cutscenes were still well done). There was moments of actual worthwhile content in there, mostly when it was you, your guns against nazis in a semi-open area without too much interruption, but these were few and far between. And even if these rare few levels were open, they were still designed primarily around and in service to realism rather than gameplay. As is the modern standard.

Still level design was less linear than what CoD X and those clones had before TNO came out. Also TNO went back to no autohealing and needing to collect health and armor from levels and dead enemies.

 

[Ivan]

Not having to click e to pick up EVERY LITTLE FUCKING THING is massive incline

 

[Ash]

Still level design was less linear than what CoD X and those clones had before TNO came out. Also TNO went back to no autohealing and needing to collect health and armor from levels and dead enemies.

There was segmented regen health (which is acceptable). And yes, it's slightly better overall than modern military shooter campaign x, but that's the bottom of the barrel. It's not a good game. RTCW > Wolf 2009 > Wolf 3D > Wolf TNO