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WTF does that Morrowind NPC face have to do with this thread????
thats the route I took with one of the of the longlived races in my world. That they have become really afraid of dying and spend an amount of time avoiding risks and conflict. Another one is that they have a hard time finding joy in things since they experienced almost everything. Of course, for these things you need to look into their beliefs, what happens when you die?
I'd take that more as a first step.
What I mean is that would be the perspective of a human who suddenly found them self living for centuries because it is completely alien to human nature and how our mind is built.
What would the nature of a beings that lived that long be like? IMO, a good start would them being not so much risk adverse but slower to act and perceive the world, seeing the passage of time pass quicker and so appearing to live slower (A 1000 year life time feeling what a normal 80ish year human life time is to us) to humans and humans to them would be like flies quickly buzzing rapidly and confusingly.
I mention that last bit because flies of how perceive the world, it is so quick that everything appears more like it's in slow motion. It's what makes them and most other wing insects so damn hard to catch.
thats the route I took with one of the of the longlived races in my world. That they have become really afraid of dying and spend an amount of time avoiding risks and conflict. Another one is that they have a hard time finding joy in things since they experienced almost everything. Of course, for these things you need to look into their beliefs, what happens when you die?
I'd take that more as a first step.
What I mean is that would be the perspective of a human who suddenly found them self living for centuries because it is completely alien to human nature and how our mind is built.
What would the nature of a beings that lived that long be like? IMO, a good start would them being not so much risk adverse but slower to act and perceive the world, seeing the passage of time pass quicker and so appearing to live slower (A 1000 year life time feeling what a normal 80ish year human life time is to us) to humans and humans to them would be like flies quickly buzzing rapidly and confusingly.
I mention that last bit because flies of how perceive the world, it is so quick that everything appears more like it's in slow motion. It's what makes them and most other wing insects so damn hard to catch.
The ones i talked about basically was like this. Ones that through magical means prolonged their lives, not that came from generations, like elves.
IF you want a realistic longevity human like race,well they will be like the dark eldars after a few century of existence.thats the route I took with one of the of the longlived races in my world. That they have become really afraid of dying and spend an amount of time avoiding risks and conflict. Another one is that they have a hard time finding joy in things since they experienced almost everything. Of course, for these things you need to look into their beliefs, what happens when you die?
I'd take that more as a first step.
What I mean is that would be the perspective of a human who suddenly found them self living for centuries because it is completely alien to human nature and how our mind is built.
What would the nature of a beings that lived that long be like? IMO, a good start would them being not so much risk adverse but slower to act and perceive the world, seeing the passage of time pass quicker and so appearing to live slower (A 1000 year life time feeling what a normal 80ish year human life time is to us) to humans and humans to them would be like flies quickly buzzing rapidly and confusingly.
I mention that last bit because flies of how perceive the world, it is so quick that everything appears more like it's in slow motion. It's what makes them and most other wing insects so damn hard to catch.
The ones i talked about basically was like this. Ones that through magical means prolonged their lives, not that came from generations, like elves.
Fantasy Zardoz?
Man Roqua, I wish you'd make more posts like this and less of your usual pent up hysterics.
I feel like I'm reading an entirely different persons post reading your calm, honest insight.
Malcom X said real men don't ask for anything
Malcom X said real men don't ask for anything
Malcolm X probably would have punched you in the face, to be honest.
thats the route I took with one of the of the longlived races in my world. That they have become really afraid of dying and spend an amount of time avoiding risks and conflict. Another one is that they have a hard time finding joy in things since they experienced almost everything. Of course, for these things you need to look into their beliefs, what happens when you die?
I'd take that more as a first step.
What I mean is that would be the perspective of a human who suddenly found them self living for centuries because it is completely alien to human nature and how our mind is built.
What would the nature of a beings that lived that long be like? IMO, a good start would them being not so much risk adverse but slower to act and perceive the world, seeing the passage of time pass quicker and so appearing to live slower (A 1000 year life time feeling what a normal 80ish year human life time is to us) to humans and humans to them would be like flies quickly buzzing rapidly and confusingly.
I mention that last bit because flies of how perceive the world, it is so quick that everything appears more like it's in slow motion. It's what makes them and most other wing insects so damn hard to catch.
The ones i talked about basically was like this. Ones that through magical means prolonged their lives, not that came from generations, like elves.
Fantasy Zardoz?
Was more about different groups of people who achieved prolonged life through different magical means and how that would affect and change them. Back when I first created my world for PnP I was a teen and didn't think about those things at all. At that point it was more like "lived long = very experienced / know everything".
To equate the Norse with only those qualities is the equivalent of Leftists who only see the history of the West as one of colonial pillagers and slave holders when there's far more of it than that, as there is with the Norse.
Now would I approve of others doing that today, much less do that myself? Hell no, but like I said, something about it makes me smile in pride because I can see that obstinate impishness and knack for provocation and teasing I and my family have and this doesn't include the island castle we'd retreat to when we caused too much trouble nor the legendary ominous reaction the full moon brought many Scots, since it was the "lantern" that signaled a coming nightly raid of ours somewhere.
That is sadly what many are in the "Alt-Right", they oppose Leftists out of contrarian impulse to sneer and mock what they view as the mainstream careful to try to never be that, because having values and principles are only for those they deride in their nihilistic safety bubble.
They don't care, or think they don't unwilling to admit it, about anything, just wanting to take the piss out of anyone who does that takes center stage in society.
You assume they'd be anything without them, like a spirit freed from a shakling body. I don't think you realize that is that medium with which we can be anything, and without it we are as freedom and adrift as a man floating through space without gravity or any surface with which to ground himself upon.
It is the dark mirror we eternally struggle to see through, but the alternative is blindness.
To put it another way in the context of this threads discussion, nothing is ever truly original, everything comes from something else, but that doesn't mean original doesn't exist, it needs something preexisting to rest in.
That is ultimately the mythological root of fantasy as a genre, and I'd say for RPGs too due to the heavy inheritance they have from fantasy.
Any of that comes from PCness viewing having Africans and Middle Easterners as bad guys as being inherently bad when they never should be at all.
Can you name one piece of entertainment about Vikings that didn't involve them Viking?
Your saying there is no difference between freedom and slavery, and I am saying that nothing could be more false.
Middle Eastern is a geographical location created to differentiate the area from other areas close by. Like Central America for Mexico, which is a NA country.
Apologies if that middle bit is jumbled and incoherent, a price of the chronic pain issues I'm dealing with at present.
Apologies if that middle bit is jumbled and incoherent, a price of the chronic pain issues I'm dealing with at present.
Holy cow, what a thing to bury in an obscure thread. Turning off shitposting and general mockery and sarcasm for a second here, are you alright? Like, get well soon, there's nothing worse than persistent pain.
Turning off shitposting and general mockery and sarcasm for a second here, are you alright?
Oh right, moving the goalposts now are we. I don't remember us talking about whether games were shit or not, I remember us talking about whether 'developers' are original or not. You used Obsidian as an example of a company with no originality. But, oh woe, their latest game does indeed fit your deranged criteria, but instead of using them as an example of someone trying to be original you just say it's a shit game, cos you're mr. motivation all over aren't you. You're not at all just another shill spewing pure bullshit for whatever micro-corner of the gaming world you're competing with. You're not at all disingenuous are you. 'Mr Incline' here thinks a single character action RPG that copied Skyrim to become popular is the worlds most original game while a party-based, turn-based game is "more or less shit". And you dare to poke your little 's at me...
So you're saying here that Witcher is more original than D&D because it has a single pre-defined character. And that it only works because its single character? Oh really, so you'd prefer it if RPGs had more in common with Prince of Persia or Legend of Zelda or Skyrim than D&D, wow, glad we sorted that out. Gee, I guess this genre would be so much better if someone like you had the all-power of dictating what should and shouldn't be released...
And you still don't seem able to grasp that 'original' games do indeed exist, have always existed and are regularly made.
And yet you still seem upset that the most popular ones are the ones using vaguely D&D-like hooks. You know, like how Witcher needed to copy skyrim for 'the people' to come rushing towards it... It's hilarious that you used the word derivative when talking about Obsidian's production history, because it shows you have absolutely no idea what it means. Derivative is indeed another term for 'being original'. Witcher is a derivative. You're asking for all games to be derivative buy putting so much pressure on originality. Have you ever heard of Undertale? That hugely popular original and derivative game that came out only a very short time ago? Funny how you don't mention that, but instead use a single pre-defined character action RPG as your 'big example' for your oh so well intended stream of horseshit. Don't tell me, you think Undertale is shit as well, hence you don't use it as an example, because 'originality' only exists for you if the game is made using northern european quasi-historical lore (which is as full of stereotypes as anything else)?
Fell free to criticise. But you're not criticising actual video games, you're criticising the whole general popular appreciation for the heritage and continued fandom for a certain type of game. According to you it doesn't matter if a game is shit or a masterpiece, if it relates to D&D in any small way (as determined solely by you) it is automatically shit because it's 'unoriginal', meanwhile, if someone does make an 'original' game, which many do, it's going to be getting zero support from you if its shit (as determined solely by you). So, sweetheart, the basis of your argument is bollocks, the things you use as examples are bollocks, you're motivation is likely nothing more than some bizarre expression of racism and your actual knowledge of your subject is as puerile and incompetent as your understanding of basic philosophical concepts.
Undertale is a JRPG meme game
Lol there is a lot of essays here.
Well to be honest there is not much of a debate when it come to rpgs. You can tell how you feel about the game in a few parrots and then people will ether agree or disagree.Lol there is a lot of essays here.
People would rather debate irrelevant semantics rather than actually playing RPGs and discussing those.
Well to be honest there is not much of a debate when it come to rpgs. You can tell how you feel about the game in a few parrots and then people will ether agree or disagree.
Most people here are rpg fans and it is easy to come to some kind of mutual understanding even if it is a disagreeable one. It is like there is a quarrel between a bunch of nazi about how to boil a nigger. Everyone will have their own opinion about how to do it,while everyone loves boiling niggers.Well to be honest there is not much of a debate when it come to rpgs. You can tell how you feel about the game in a few parrots and then people will ether agree or disagree.
Why does this not apply to other concepts, then?
Most people here are rpg fans and it is easy to come to some kind of mutual understanding even if it is a disagreeable one