Who would like the CSG to be 2d or non-rotatable?

[MRY]

I like to know what's going on in combat and align the necessary camera angle myself.

Usability > Graphics.

But Feasibility > Usability, and VD has made clear that going 2D is not feasible, right?

 

[Zer0wing]

Feasibility > Usability

For player, that doesn't matter, that's a developer's headache - how to develop a game.
>Developer tag
Oh, wait.

 

[MRY]

Well, I just want the game to get made. "You should switch your engine approach" to a developer is basically a way of saying, "I'd rather wait another couple years for CSG, and maybe never get it at all."

 

[Lurker King]

It is because of naysayers like you that the popamoles won. Begone cretin!

 

[MRY]

Inb4rtwp

 

[hivemind]

fuck 2d

 

[Commissar Draco]

It won't be the first game I enjoyed to play despite shit 3D engine and camera won't be last; lets just hope it won't be Game-Broyo shit level of shit.

 

[Tigranes]

I don't want VD to switch the engine, and the 3d cam didn't bother me too much in AOD. In an ideal world, it'd just be fixed cam without changing the engine.

 

[Lurker King]

I don't want VD to switch the engine, and the 3d cam didn't bother me too much in AOD. In an ideal world, it'd just be fixed cam without changing the engine.

No, you do want. You just don't know yet. The engine was one of the things that delayed and damaged AoD's development in different fronts.

 

[Vault Dweller]

It didn't.

 

[Lurker King]

It didn't.

Months of our development time went into fixing stuff that should've been working out of the box or adding generic functionality that's not there only because the engine is a first person shooter engine and is built that way. Just two days ago I fixed a core Torque bug with memory management that's been there from the beginning of the century, and noone ever noticed it because there were no projects of AoD's (or DS) scale on build Torque. So, "knowing the engine" in my case is knowing how to fix that rusty old car on a daily basis. And even though I know that life is suffering, I'd prefer if there was less suffering and more game-related code, rather than crutches that keep the engine from falling apart.

"Sooner or later the switch is imminent. Torque is losing the battle, it desperately tries to catch up with heavy weight players, but it can't. Its heritage is dragging it down - starting from the above-mentioned number of bugs and compatibility, to the lack of integrated features: pathfinding library, physics, inverse kinematics, level-editing and world-crafting options, modern rendering engine. All those tools, conveniently integrated and ready to be at at our disposal, like SpeedTree or visual scripting. Then there is optimization: Torque is choking on our amount of resources and FPS count we get frequently dives below 20, which is nearly inappropriate for our nice, but modest graphics (Far Cry 4 gives me 40-60 on ultra settings, a game released just 3 months ago). But the main thing is that Torque essentially is just a code for a shooter game with editors slapped over it later. Unity or UE4 are software development kits, developed by a huge and successful company which makes a huge difference."

 

[Drowed]

Well, what is some months when the game took a decade to completed, right?

 

[Vault Dweller]

Months of our development time went into fixing stuff that should've been working out of the box or adding generic functionality that's not there only because the engine is a first person shooter engine and is built that way.

I'm pretty sure we'd spend months fixing some Unreal 4 issues. The main reason the game took so long was the amount of content and complex scripting.

 

[Elhoim]

Regarding camera, we implemented "wall hiding", so if a wall is obscuring a character, it disappears. We are still working on the visuals, but the system is already done. So there's no need to constantly rotate the camera.

 

[cherry blossom]

Regarding camera, we implemented "wall hiding", so if a wall is obscuring a character, it disappears. We are still working on the visuals, but the system is already done. So there's no need to constantly rotate the camera.

I will hold you to that. And then curse you every time I need to rotate the camera.

How about giving us a parallel projection option? Equal degree of interaction throughout the screen. With perspective, interaction with objects and characters and differentiation of interaction between them varies depending on angles and FOV, often in annoying ways as near every 3D game with isometric perspective to date demonstrates.